NBA 2013-2014 Regular Season

[Ryne Ween]

What makes anybody think Phil is even capable of succeeding in this position working fulltime in NY?

 

The ego is just insane. Running the Knicks from LA? If they pay him $13mln they are out of their minds. Hes never been known as a good talent evaluator.

[TruffleShuffle]

20th straight loss for the sixers!!! \:D/ =D>

[Derwood]

20th straight loss for the sixers!!! \:D/ =D>

 

NBA will punish them for tanking by having them "draw" the 4th overall pick in the lottery

[Splendid Splinter]

20th straight loss for the sixers!!! \:D/ =D>

 

NBA will punish them for tanking by having them "draw" the 4th overall pick in the lottery

 

But they're not tanking remember??? They're "rebuilding" according to Silver.

[NOLA]

The Pelicans are not good, but holy crap Anthony Davis! What's really scary is he's 21 and barely played a full season's worth of pro basketball.

Last night: A. Davis 40 Pts, 21 Reb, 3 Ast, 1 Stl, 3 Blk

[Cubswin11]

The Pelicans are not good, but holy crap Anthony Davis! What's really scary is he's 21 and barely played a full season's worth of pro basketball.

Last night: A. Davis 40 Pts, 21 Reb, 3 Ast, 1 Stl, 3 Blk

His last like 2-3 weeks he's been putting up really good numbers. He has to be averaging like mid 20's for points and mid-high teens for boards.

[SouthSideRyan]

20th straight loss for the sixers!!! \:D/ =D>

 

NBA will punish them for tanking by having them "draw" the 4th overall pick in the lottery

 

Unless they win the lottery then it was fixed to give big market philly a top star. Rest assured it was definitely fixed no matter what because dumbass reasons

[Sammy Sofa]

I so very badly want for this to be a real thing:

 

http://deadspin.com/brian-scalabrine-gets-his-own-30-for-30-trailer-1544943134

[imb]

The Pelicans are not good, but holy crap Anthony Davis! What's really scary is he's 21 and barely played a full season's worth of pro basketball.

Last night: A. Davis 40 Pts, 21 Reb, 3 Ast, 1 Stl, 3 Blk

 

I believe he's top 5 in PER

[sneakypower]

#4 in PER

[Formerly Snayke]

Here's a good article on Grantland about reforming the lottery: http://grantland.com/features/wheel-of-misfortune/

 

Possibly a dumb question, but why does the NBA have a salary cap? Wouldn't it make it easier for teams like Charlotte, Minnesota, Milwaukee, etc. to compete if they could offer the top free agents as much money as possible?

[mul21]

Here's a good article on Grantland about reforming the lottery: http://grantland.com/features/wheel-of-misfortune/

 

Possibly a dumb question, but why does the NBA have a salary cap? Wouldn't it make it easier for teams like Charlotte, Minnesota, Milwaukee, etc. to compete if they could offer the top free agents as much money as possible?

 

Because they could never offer near as much as teams like LA and NY, just like in all the other sports?

[jersey cubs fan]

Here's a good article on Grantland about reforming the lottery: http://grantland.com/features/wheel-of-misfortune/

 

Possibly a dumb question, but why does the NBA have a salary cap? Wouldn't it make it easier for teams like Charlotte, Minnesota, Milwaukee, etc. to compete if they could offer the top free agents as much money as possible?

 

You think it would be easier for Milwaukee to acquire free agents if there wasn't a salary cap? Like, they would outbid NY and LA?

[Cubswin11]

Here's a good article on Grantland about reforming the lottery: http://grantland.com/features/wheel-of-misfortune/

 

Possibly a dumb question, but why does the NBA have a salary cap? Wouldn't it make it easier for teams like Charlotte, Minnesota, Milwaukee, etc. to compete if they could offer the top free agents as much money as possible?

I think that would skew the talent even more, the New York's, LA's, Brooklyn's, etc. of the world would probably be pushing mid-high hundreds of millions in salaries per year (I think with the salary cap taxes NY/Brooklyn are over $100 mil this year). I don't think the small markets could operate on payroll budgets like that and also guys want to play in big markets still in the NBA. LA/NY/DAL/Brooklyn/etc, would be offering Lebron like $40-50 mil annually in a uncapped market this offseason. He'd probably be worth it too.

 

I think you'd wind up with the same situation we are in now, the top guys would all go to big markets the middle tier guys like the Rudy Gay's, Iguodala's, Josh Smith's of the world would probably still wind up on the low/mid level teams that have no chance to compete but would be making $10+ mil more a year in a non cap market.

 

The best way to "fix" the NBA, for those that don't like it, IMO, would be to condense the league/talent and eliminate 4-6 teams. I think the talent is too spread out and the product is being affected.

[wolf stansson]

You guys think it would be a bad idea to have employers have to pay employees a premium salary to live and work in their shitty city even though they have much smaller pools of revenue to draw from in an industry where relative competitive balance is a significant driving force behind consumer interest?

[WrigleyField 22]

I know one of the biggest things of the wheel was players opting out of drafts to get the ideal timing, but it seems to me the fix is pretty simple- make all players draft eligible at whatever age (19 or 20 I'm sure they'd choose).

 

I think 17 or 18 would be better. After age 21/22 if they're not drafted their just eligible as FA. Teams hold their draft rights for life unless the player sits out of competitive basketball for a whole year.

 

Other than your generational talents, it really just evens things out by way of randomization because teams are going to eventually be drafting almost exclusively HS talent. Then it's like hockey where they can go and play college or international or minor leagues or make the straight jump (if the team wants them to sign them right away that is). Look at all the top college picks in a given year and how many weren't 5 star recruits out of HS. Suddenly mid round and second round picks are investments on the future. Sure some team is still going to get extremely lucky every several years when the next Lebron James turns draft-eligible age, but in most other drafts the best player a. Wasn't picked first and b. Wasn't the consensus top player at age 17/18. At the same time rarely does a player completely come out of nowhere to where he wouldn't be drafted amongst his peers (especially if you also expand the draft by 2-3 rounds). All way less effective if you bump up the draft age again, but still effective at taking away player control.

 

To make sure it will work reach out to NCAA with your intentions ahead of time so they can set their rules regarding advisor contact or whatever that's going to be allowed.

 

I do agree though that there has to be a holistic approach and evening out FA in hand with this would be a good step to allow teams to rebuild.

[Derwood]

Their team may suck, but the Cavaliers' pre-game intro video owns

 

[apete6]

I know one of the biggest things of the wheel was players opting out of drafts to get the ideal timing, but it seems to me the fix is pretty simple- make all players draft eligible at whatever age (19 or 20 I'm sure they'd choose).

 

I think 17 or 18 would be better. After age 21/22 if they're not drafted their just eligible as FA. Teams hold their draft rights for life unless the player sits out of competitive basketball for a whole year.

 

Other than your generational talents, it really just evens things out by way of randomization because teams are going to eventually be drafting almost exclusively HS talent. Then it's like hockey where they can go and play college or international or minor leagues or make the straight jump (if the team wants them to sign them right away that is). Look at all the top college picks in a given year and how many weren't 5 star recruits out of HS. Suddenly mid round and second round picks are investments on the future. Sure some team is still going to get extremely lucky every several years when the next Lebron James turns draft-eligible age, but in most other drafts the best player a. Wasn't picked first and b. Wasn't the consensus top player at age 17/18. At the same time rarely does a player completely come out of nowhere to where he wouldn't be drafted amongst his peers (especially if you also expand the draft by 2-3 rounds). All way less effective if you bump up the draft age again, but still effective at taking away player control.

 

To make sure it will work reach out to NCAA with your intentions ahead of time so they can set their rules regarding advisor contact or whatever that's going to be allowed.

 

I do agree though that there has to be a holistic approach and evening out FA in hand with this would be a good step to allow teams to rebuild.

 

Or just do the wheel, but have a component that is like the baseball draft without the actual returning to school thing. Declare yourself eligible after high school or stay 2 (or 3 years if that's what they determine) in college, that's it. Would give the guys like LeBron and Kobe the chance to go early, everyone else goes to school for 2 or 3 years. Also, for the guys who can't get into or don't want to go to college, they can try and get drafted after HS instead of playing in Europe or JuCo or whatever.

[CubInOK]

Russell Westbrook might have died again.

 

ETA: He sprained his right knee. Out 2-4 weeks is my guess.

[Guest]

Sixers nearly won today but managed to come through and lose their 23rd straight game.

[sneakypower]

how do you lose 23 straight with the NBA's best PG?

[Derwood]

how do you lose 23 straight with the NBA's best PG?

 

Chris Paul plays for the Sixers now?

[Sammy Sofa]

how do you lose 23 straight with the NBA's best PG?

 

Chris Paul plays for the Sixers now?

 

Go sit down.

[cubbyvirus00]

Here's a good article on Grantland about reforming the lottery: http://grantland.com/features/wheel-of-misfortune/

 

Possibly a dumb question, but why does the NBA have a salary cap? Wouldn't it make it easier for teams like Charlotte, Minnesota, Milwaukee, etc. to compete if they could offer the top free agents as much money as possible?

I think that would skew the talent even more, the New York's, LA's, Brooklyn's, etc. of the world would probably be pushing mid-high hundreds of millions in salaries per year (I think with the salary cap taxes NY/Brooklyn are over $100 mil this year). I don't think the small markets could operate on payroll budgets like that and also guys want to play in big markets still in the NBA. LA/NY/DAL/Brooklyn/etc, would be offering Lebron like $40-50 mil annually in a uncapped market this offseason. He'd probably be worth it too.

 

I think you'd wind up with the same situation we are in now, the top guys would all go to big markets the middle tier guys like the Rudy Gay's, Iguodala's, Josh Smith's of the world would probably still wind up on the low/mid level teams that have no chance to compete but would be making $10+ mil more a year in a non cap market.

 

The best way to "fix" the NBA, for those that don't like it, IMO, would be to condense the league/talent and eliminate 4-6 teams. I think the talent is too spread out and the product is being affected.

 

Winner.

 

 

The NBA has to fix its business and how teams operate. It's basically a 2-3 horse race every single year and you can safely eliminate over half the teams post All-Star break. Eliminating the lottery process is a good start.

[jersey cubs fan]

apropos of nothing I just saw David Stern on the street chatting up a random guy. I've seen him before with a mini-entourage but he was solo this time. Is he retired yet?