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Offseason will basically be re-signing Cutler and drafting at least one DT, CB, and LB. I bet we wind up with two DT's and two CB's.

Why so you say LB? Granted Anderson and Williams are one year deals, but we're deeper than we've been in years, including with youth. Definitely agree on DL and CB though.

 

You can always use LB bodies though. Special teams takes up a few and given the body type that Emery covets, big fast freaks, LB is easy to take. Also, Briggs is 33 this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not on the Bears next season, and would be surprised if he is on the Bears in 2015. They may be deep today, but that depth is easily eroded.

 

True, but if Peppers and his contract are cut, I'd give DE the edge all other things being equal.

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Offseason will basically be re-signing Cutler and drafting at least one DT, CB, and LB. I bet we wind up with two DT's and two CB's.

Why so you say LB? Granted Anderson and Williams are one year deals, but we're deeper than we've been in years, including with youth. Definitely agree on DL and CB though.

 

You can always use LB bodies though. Special teams takes up a few and given the body type that Emery covets, big fast freaks, LB is easy to take. Also, Briggs is 33 this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not on the Bears next season, and would be surprised if he is on the Bears in 2015. They may be deep today, but that depth is easily eroded.

 

On the topic of LBs, are we going to give up on Shea as a DE and move him to LB? Does he still show any promise there?

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The aging defense is a much greater concern than Cutler heading into next year.

 

Exactly.

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Offseason will basically be re-signing Cutler and drafting at least one DT, CB, and LB. I bet we wind up with two DT's and two CB's.

Why so you say LB? Granted Anderson and Williams are one year deals, but we're deeper than we've been in years, including with youth. Definitely agree on DL and CB though.

 

You can always use LB bodies though. Special teams takes up a few and given the body type that Emery covets, big fast freaks, LB is easy to take. Also, Briggs is 33 this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not on the Bears next season, and would be surprised if he is on the Bears in 2015. They may be deep today, but that depth is easily eroded.

We'll it depends on what you feel about Greene and Bostic probably. I think you could probably pencil in Bostic to start next year and Greene by 2015. So you probably phaseout the vets slowly and if you drafted well you have at least 2/3 of your corps lined up for 2015, and maybe all 3 if Briggs is still playing at an acceptable level. It's impossible to keep depth with injuries and such, so I would never shy away from almost any position, but I don't look at LB and think, wow that's a position that has trouble in 2014, whereas I do see that with CB and DL. Part of that is position replacement value too. It's just easier to get by with replacement level FA at LB than at DL or DB. I'd even put a couple offensive positions ahead of LB like WR(we're basically using 3 right now) or interior line (notably C) . Looking at the LB depth it's a spot I'm reinforcing in later rounds and UDFA, not top 3, unless the talents just too good to pass up.

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Offseason will basically be re-signing Cutler and drafting at least one DT, CB, and LB. I bet we wind up with two DT's and two CB's.

Why so you say LB? Granted Anderson and Williams are one year deals, but we're deeper than we've been in years, including with youth. Definitely agree on DL and CB though.

 

I'm sure they'll do everything they can to bring bak Anderson too.

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My concern is him walking after the season.

 

As others have said, Jay cannot walk away if the Bears want him back. Teams dont simply lose players that they want to keep.

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Offseason will basically be re-signing Cutler and drafting at least one DT, CB, and LB. I bet we wind up with two DT's and two CB's.

Why so you say LB? Granted Anderson and Williams are one year deals, but we're deeper than we've been in years, including with youth. Definitely agree on DL and CB though.

 

You can always use LB bodies though. Special teams takes up a few and given the body type that Emery covets, big fast freaks, LB is easy to take. Also, Briggs is 33 this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not on the Bears next season, and would be surprised if he is on the Bears in 2015. They may be deep today, but that depth is easily eroded.

 

On the topic of LBs, are we going to give up on Shea as a DE and move him to LB? Does he still show any promise there?

At best he's a two down LB in a 4-3. I'd keep him at DE - I think there's still hope. Would have been nice to still have Marinelli coaching him up.

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Offseason will basically be re-signing Cutler and drafting at least one DT, CB, and LB. I bet we wind up with two DT's and two CB's.

Why so you say LB? Granted Anderson and Williams are one year deals, but we're deeper than we've been in years, including with youth. Definitely agree on DL and CB though.

 

I'm sure they'll do everything they can to bring bak Anderson too.

Very true, and he is only 30 (in 3 days) too, so age wise he may be able to give a few more productive seasons as well, so even if you are worried with Briggs declining, we have him or Willisms as vet options. Even though neither would be prime Briggs, they can be three down backers- particularly Anderson.

 

Anyways we're 3-0 so not sure why I'm even thinking so much about offseason plans.

 

Go Bears. Murder Stafford!

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Offseason will basically be re-signing Cutler and drafting at least one DT, CB, and LB. I bet we wind up with two DT's and two CB's.

Why so you say LB? Granted Anderson and Williams are one year deals, but we're deeper than we've been in years, including with youth. Definitely agree on DL and CB though.

 

You can always use LB bodies though. Special teams takes up a few and given the body type that Emery covets, big fast freaks, LB is easy to take. Also, Briggs is 33 this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not on the Bears next season, and would be surprised if he is on the Bears in 2015. They may be deep today, but that depth is easily eroded.

We'll it depends on what you feel about Greene and Bostic probably. I think you could probably pencil in Bostic to start next year and Greene by 2015. So you probably phaseout the vets slowly and if you drafted well you have at least 2/3 of your corps lined up for 2015, and maybe all 3 if Briggs is still playing at an acceptable level. It's impossible to keep depth with injuries and such, so I would never shy away from almost any position, but I don't look at LB and think, wow that's a position that has trouble in 2014, whereas I do see that with CB and DL. Part of that is position replacement value too. It's just easier to get by with replacement level FA at LB than at DL or DB. I'd even put a couple offensive positions ahead of LB like WR(we're basically using 3 right now) or interior line (notably C) . Looking at the LB depth it's a spot I'm reinforcing in later rounds and UDFA, not top 3, unless the talents just too good to pass up.

 

I'm very much in agreement with you - the depth behind every FA or potential roster cut at other positions (DE, DT, CB, S, G, C and even QB) is far worse than at LB.

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I am actually looking forward to seeing Minter get some time. Don't get me wrong, losing Melton sucks, but I don't see a big drop off from him to Collins and Minter either.
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I am actually looking forward to seeing Minter get some time. Don't get me wrong, losing Melton sucks, but I don't see a big drop off from him to Collins and Minter either.

 

Last year Melton was much better. I think the concussion issue really set him back this year.

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I am actually looking forward to seeing Minter get some time. Don't get me wrong, losing Melton sucks, but I don't see a big drop off from him to Collins and Minter either.

 

Last year Melton was much better. I think the concussion issue really set him back this year.

Yeah, I should have clarified that-Not a big drop off from 2013 Melton.

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The last time the Bears lost a Pro Bowl player at the signature position in their Cover-2 defense was in 2006. They wound up reaching the Super Bowl with Tommie Harris relegated to watching from the sidelines after he suffered a detached left hamstring.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-brad-biggs-10-thoughts-20130923,0,4459833.story

 

This is true, but the defense definitely lost some dominance after losing Tommie.

 

fake edit: Just looked it up, gave up 12.5 points allowed per game in the 12 games up to and including the game he got injured, and 24.6 points allowed in the 7 games after. Not that points allowed are the end all be all, and I'm not factoring any any of the points being Sexy Rexy gifts to the opposition, but thats a pretty big jump.

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There's no question about the fact that that defense definitely took a stop back without Tommie and Brown.
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Some hand picked Cutler stats:

 

4th in the NFL in completion % (67.3)

T-4th in the NFL in TDs (6)

10th in the league in QB Rating (94.2)

3rd in the league in that ESPN QBR stat (78.1)

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I miss fat DTs.

 

They might not be able to quickly get around them, but they do a better job of not allowing the QB to step up.

 

They were a staple of the Jauron defense, and I did not like it. They seem like a good idea, but they don't play in this defense.

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There's no question about the fact that that defense definitely took a stop back without Tommie and Brown.

 

There is also no question that Melton is not Tommie Harris.

 

Yes. Especially crappy 2013 Melton.

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I don't know that I've ever seen a team have as many FAs as the Bears have this offseason. 26 of the 53 man roster are not under contract for next year. Goes to 27 if you figure Peppers gets cut. Also, no reason to double Michael Bush's salary to 6.45M.....so 28.

 

Seven offensive starters are under contract (8 assuming Cutler is back). Only 3 on D will be back, if you assume Peppers is cut. The only DBs under contract for next year are Conte, Frey and CJ Wilson. Podlesh is the only specialist under contract.

 

No-brainers to bring back: Cutler, Gould, Mannelly (if he doesn't retire).

I'd definitely look to bring back: Tillman, Slauson, Collins (assuming he's decent the rest of the year)

I'd probably bring back: Wright, Wootton, James and Joe Anderson.

 

That means replacing Garza, Peppers, DJ Williams, Jennings, Fiametta, and Melton as starters, and some random depth (Rosario, Walters, Steltz, Costanzo).

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Cutler has always done that while running. This story is going to get irritating.

 

Why? I'd MUCH rather hear this meatballishness than "Cutler is a [expletive]. He's not tough. Yadda Yadda."

It's irritating that it's taken so long to realize how awesome he is. I agree, it's better than the old bs.

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