NFL Week 2 come on, you guys thread

[NOLA]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- An Orlando television station has issued an on-air explanation for why it aired the struggling Jacksonville Jaguars while many NFL fans probably would have preferred seeing the Denver Broncos-New York Giants game, a possible Super Bowl preview featuring Peyton and Eli Manning.

 

WKMG TV issued the scrolled message on Sunday. It read that NFL policy states the station must carry all Jags away games. The end of the message said: "We apologize for any inconvenience.''

ESPN link

 

Jebus, their near-local network is happy that they don't sell out so they don't have to air their home games

 

Just go ahead and move them to LA already so no one will show up to watch them there.

[Guest]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- An Orlando television station has issued an on-air explanation for why it aired the struggling Jacksonville Jaguars while many NFL fans probably would have preferred seeing the Denver Broncos-New York Giants game, a possible Super Bowl preview featuring Peyton and Eli Manning.

 

WKMG TV issued the scrolled message on Sunday. It read that NFL policy states the station must carry all Jags away games. The end of the message said: "We apologize for any inconvenience.''

ESPN link

 

Jebus, their near-local network is happy that they don't sell out so they don't have to air their home games

 

Just go ahead and move them to LA already so no one will show up to watch them there.

No - then we'd be stuck with their games here.

[Banedon]

Kaepernick shaved an eyebrow.

 

[UMFan83]

Kaepernick shaved an eyebrow.

 

 

that looks fake/pre-recorded

[Banedon]

Now, to actual game play, and the Eric Weems play - the Vikings couldn't have scored a touchdown on it unless Weems picked it up and fumbled it, which was not going to happen; Weems said on Twitter afterward that he knew the rule all along that after the Vikings already touched it, they couldn't score a touchdown on it, and the worst case scenario is they'd pick the ball up where it eventually was touched. The best case scenario is the touchback which, by comparison, works out great. I'll admit, it's not a rule I knew.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2013/9/16/4734702/bears-vs-vikings-notes-scribbles-and-things-jotted-down

[XZero771679666304]

An afterthought to this weekend: Am I the only one that is stupefied at how people can, with a straight face, debate who has been the better between the two Mannings? Am I missing something, because in my opinion, it's a slam dunk. I also can't stand the argument that "QB X has more Superbowl wins than QB Y, therefore he has the better track record/is more "elite"". It makes my head hurt.

[jersey cubs fan]

Now, to actual game play, and the Eric Weems play - the Vikings couldn't have scored a touchdown on it unless Weems picked it up and fumbled it, which was not going to happen; Weems said on Twitter afterward that he knew the rule all along that after the Vikings already touched it, they couldn't score a touchdown on it, and the worst case scenario is they'd pick the ball up where it eventually was touched. The best case scenario is the touchback which, by comparison, works out great. I'll admit, it's not a rule I knew.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2013/9/16/4734702/bears-vs-vikings-notes-scribbles-and-things-jotted-down

 

Every time that play happens there's only one guy on the field who gets it.

[scarey]

Now, to actual game play, and the Eric Weems play - the Vikings couldn't have scored a touchdown on it unless Weems picked it up and fumbled it, which was not going to happen; Weems said on Twitter afterward that he knew the rule all along that after the Vikings already touched it, they couldn't score a touchdown on it, and the worst case scenario is they'd pick the ball up where it eventually was touched. The best case scenario is the touchback which, by comparison, works out great. I'll admit, it's not a rule I knew.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2013/9/16/4734702/bears-vs-vikings-notes-scribbles-and-things-jotted-down

 

 

I'm not sure I understand this part of it. The worst case scenario would have been the Bears getting the ball closer to the goal line if a Viking would have grabbed it prior to entering the endzone?

[Banedon]

Now, to actual game play, and the Eric Weems play - the Vikings couldn't have scored a touchdown on it unless Weems picked it up and fumbled it, which was not going to happen; Weems said on Twitter afterward that he knew the rule all along that after the Vikings already touched it, they couldn't score a touchdown on it, and the worst case scenario is they'd pick the ball up where it eventually was touched. The best case scenario is the touchback which, by comparison, works out great. I'll admit, it's not a rule I knew.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2013/9/16/4734702/bears-vs-vikings-notes-scribbles-and-things-jotted-down

 

 

I'm not sure I understand this part of it. The worst case scenario would have been the Bears getting the ball closer to the goal line if a Viking would have grabbed it prior to entering the endzone?

 

Yes, I believe that's correct. Because once it's in the endzone, it was a touchback. This is why you see three or four guys around the ball boxing out a lot of times, because something like this can happen.

[Guest]

An afterthought to this weekend: Am I the only one that is stupefied at how people can, with a straight face, debate who has been the better between the two Mannings? Am I missing something, because in my opinion, it's a slam dunk. I also can't stand the argument that "QB X has more Superbowl wins than QB Y, therefore he has the better track record/is more "elite"". It makes my head hurt.

 

The only argument the Eli folks have are the rings. But I don't know why they don't think Robert Horry and Steve Kerr are amongst the greatest basketball players of all time.

[jersey cubs fan]

Now, to actual game play, and the Eric Weems play - the Vikings couldn't have scored a touchdown on it unless Weems picked it up and fumbled it, which was not going to happen; Weems said on Twitter afterward that he knew the rule all along that after the Vikings already touched it, they couldn't score a touchdown on it, and the worst case scenario is they'd pick the ball up where it eventually was touched. The best case scenario is the touchback which, by comparison, works out great. I'll admit, it's not a rule I knew.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2013/9/16/4734702/bears-vs-vikings-notes-scribbles-and-things-jotted-down

 

 

I'm not sure I understand this part of it. The worst case scenario would have been the Bears getting the ball closer to the goal line if a Viking would have grabbed it prior to entering the endzone?

If it was going to be down at the 3, and he knocked it back but they stopped it at the 6 inch line, it would be down at the 6 inch line.

[Soul]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- An Orlando television station has issued an on-air explanation for why it aired the struggling Jacksonville Jaguars while many NFL fans probably would have preferred seeing the Denver Broncos-New York Giants game, a possible Super Bowl preview featuring Peyton and Eli Manning.

 

WKMG TV issued the scrolled message on Sunday. It read that NFL policy states the station must carry all Jags away games. The end of the message said: "We apologize for any inconvenience.''

ESPN link

 

Jebus, their near-local network is happy that they don't sell out so they don't have to air their home games

 

Just go ahead and move them to LA already so no one will show up to watch them there.

No - then we'd be stuck with their games here.

 

Everyone seems to want the NFL back in LA.......but nobody wants the Jags, anywhere.

[Careless]

An afterthought to this weekend: Am I the only one that is stupefied at how people can, with a straight face, debate who has been the better between the two Mannings? Am I missing something, because in my opinion, it's a slam dunk. I also can't stand the argument that "QB X has more Superbowl wins than QB Y, therefore he has the better track record/is more "elite"". It makes my head hurt.

One is the greatest QB in the history of the nFL, the other is a borderline all pro.

[UMFan83]

An afterthought to this weekend: Am I the only one that is stupefied at how people can, with a straight face, debate who has been the better between the two Mannings? Am I missing something, because in my opinion, it's a slam dunk. I also can't stand the argument that "QB X has more Superbowl wins than QB Y, therefore he has the better track record/is more "elite"". It makes my head hurt.

 

The only argument the Eli folks have are the rings. But I don't know why they don't think Robert Horry and Steve Kerr are amongst the greatest basketball players of all time.

 

Are you comparing the QB of an NFL team to the 6th man of an NBA team in terms of their importance to winning a championship?

 

I'm not arguing that Eli is better than Peyton, I just thought that was a silly way to prove the point.

[Guest]

An afterthought to this weekend: Am I the only one that is stupefied at how people can, with a straight face, debate who has been the better between the two Mannings? Am I missing something, because in my opinion, it's a slam dunk. I also can't stand the argument that "QB X has more Superbowl wins than QB Y, therefore he has the better track record/is more "elite"". It makes my head hurt.

 

The only argument the Eli folks have are the rings. But I don't know why they don't think Robert Horry and Steve Kerr are amongst the greatest basketball players of all time.

 

Are you comparing the QB of an NFL team to the 6th man of an NBA team in terms of their importance to winning a championship?

 

I'm not arguing that Eli is better than Peyton, I just thought that was a silly way to prove the point.

Probably a poor comparison but my point is Eli wasn't the main reason they won those two Super Bowls. The Giants' defensive line carried both those teams and Eli gets too much credit for those rings.

[Guest]

An afterthought to this weekend: Am I the only one that is stupefied at how people can, with a straight face, debate who has been the better between the two Mannings? Am I missing something, because in my opinion, it's a slam dunk. I also can't stand the argument that "QB X has more Superbowl wins than QB Y, therefore he has the better track record/is more "elite"". It makes my head hurt.

 

A couple weeks ago I was talking to a guy who made this exact argument. He said he thought a few QBs were better than Peyton, but the first two he listed were Joe Montana (fine) and Dan Marino. He didn't have a response when I pointed out the inconsistency in the argument.

 

Of course, he also thought Tim Tebow should be a starting quarterback while Tony Romo shouldn't.

[XZero771679666304]

Probably a poor comparison but my point is Eli wasn't the main reason they won those two Super Bowls. The Giants' defensive line carried both those teams and Eli gets too much credit for those rings.

 

Whenever someone makes the "most rings = best QB" argument, I ask them if they think guys like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson were better than guys like Dan Marino, Jim Kelly or Warren Moon. I usually get a "they were better when it counted" or "they were more clutch" or some sort of hot garbage like that. It's total meatball logic.

 

In no way, shape or form is Eli Manning even comparable to his brother in terms of quality of play over their careers.

[Warpticon]

An afterthought to this weekend: Am I the only one that is stupefied at how people can, with a straight face, debate who has been the better between the two Mannings? Am I missing something, because in my opinion, it's a slam dunk. I also can't stand the argument that "QB X has more Superbowl wins than QB Y, therefore he has the better track record/is more "elite"". It makes my head hurt.

 

In a world where people still think pitching wins matter, why is this surprising?

[Soul]

Probably a poor comparison but my point is Eli wasn't the main reason they won those two Super Bowls. The Giants' defensive line carried both those teams and Eli gets too much credit for those rings.

 

Whenever someone makes the "most rings = best QB" argument, I ask them if they think guys like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson were better than guys like Dan Marino, Jim Kelly or Warren Moon. I usually get a "they were better when it counted" or "they were more clutch" or some sort of hot garbage like that. It's total meatball logic.

 

In no way, shape or form is Eli Manning even comparable to his brother in terms of quality of play over their careers.

 

I fear that your head hurts alot, because NFL coverage is rife with these kinds of arguments.

[Warpticon]

Also it's funny how people selectively forget that Eli was Mark Sanchez for 3 and three quarter seasons. Edited September 17, 2013 by Warpticon

[Splendid Splinter]

It's the same thing as people calling Flacco an "elite" QB now. It makes me wonder how everyone will view Cutler if he ever wins a SB.

[rawaction]

Also it's funny how people selectively forget that Eli was Mark Sanchez for 3 and a quarter seasons.

Or that he's Mark Sanchez now.

[ConstableRabbit]

It's the same thing as people calling Flacco an "elite" QB now. It makes me wonder how everyone will view Cutler if he ever wins a SB.

I wonder how many know that Cutler has a higher career rating than both Eli and Flacco.

[Careless]

terrible early whistle on that fumble

Also it's funny how people selectively forget that Eli was Mark Sanchez for 3 and a quarter seasons.

Or that he's Mark Sanchez now.

? Eli can at least throw a football

[Careless]

Pittsburgh's receivers appear to be trying to throw the game