Who do we trade and what do we expect in return?

[Guest]

Diamondbacks general manager Kevin Towers told MLB.com the team will have to receive an elite MLB starter in return if the team chooses to trade starting pitcher prospect Archie Bradley, who entered the season as Arizona's second-best prospect, according to MLB.com.

"It would need to be a significant upgrade from what we have," Towers said. "Controllable young pitching is valuable. We're not going to give up a lot for a back-end-of-the-rotation starter. We're not going to sacrifice the future."

From an update on cbs sports.

 

This is something I could get excited about.

 

I doubt Bradley is in play for Garza.

 

Skaggs? Probably.

[SouthSideRyan]

THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD START PAYING CASH FOR GOOD PLAYERS

[Hairyducked Idiot]

THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD START PAYING CASH FOR GOOD PLAYERS

 

Sure. But not Garza. We have too many holes to fill and need to spread the cash we have around.

[Splendid Splinter]

The only way I can think of that would REALLY bring back a haul in a Garza trade is

 

A) someone like Candelario/Voggy/Arrieta/Schierholtz/etc is packaged with him

B) the other team is granted a period to sign an extension with Garza so they got him for more than this year and actually got it done

C) a GM got annihilated one night, drunk-dialed Theo/Hoyer, and offer a ridic package

[Ding Dong Johnson]

ridic

NO

[Guest]

Diamondbacks general manager Kevin Towers told MLB.com the team will have to receive an elite MLB starter in return if the team chooses to trade starting pitcher prospect Archie Bradley, who entered the season as Arizona's second-best prospect, according to MLB.com.

"It would need to be a significant upgrade from what we have," Towers said. "Controllable young pitching is valuable. We're not going to give up a lot for a back-end-of-the-rotation starter. We're not going to sacrifice the future."

From an update on cbs sports.

 

This is something I could get excited about.

 

I doubt Bradley is in play for Garza.

 

Skaggs? Probably.

 

i'd be pretty thrilled with skaggs straight up for garza

[Guest]

Not to bring this up out of nowhere, but a couple people (TT and davell, I think) expressed that they would want a piece closer to the bigs than Cecchini. Is he really that far, considering the fact that he's doing pretty well at AA right now (not a huge sample)?

 

I'd think a 2014 ETA isn't far fetched, even though I wouldn't expect him to break camp with the team or anything like that.

 

I love his peripherals.

[davell]

So evidently, Skaggs is in play for Gallardo. Really, KT? He's legit scared to death of making a big trade with Theo, isn't he?

[davell]

Not to bring this up out of nowhere, but a couple people (TT and davell, I think) expressed that they would want a piece closer to the bigs than Cecchini. Is he really that far, considering the fact that he's doing pretty well at AA right now (not a huge sample)?

 

I'd think a 2014 ETA isn't far fetched, even though I wouldn't expect him to break camp with the team or anything like that.

 

I love his peripherals.

Its nothing against Cecchini, for me. It's wrong on my part and I admit it, but with Baez, Bryant, Villanueva, and Candelario all in our system as longterm 3rd possibilities, I'd literally want any other position(other than SS or 1B and I'd be OK with a SS possibly) to be the centerpiece of a Garza deal. Pitching, pitching, and more pitching. Maybe a C. And I know I'm wrong for passing on what may be a slightly better player, due to positional need.

[imb]

Nothing on our major league roster outside of samardzija could bring back archie bradley in a trade, so lets give up that pipe dream right now, ok

[TruffleShuffle]

So evidently, Skaggs is in play for Gallardo. Really, KT? He's legit scared to death of making a big trade with Theo, isn't he?

 

either that or towers hasn't checked gallardo's b-r page in about 4 years.

[Infrequent Poster]

Anyone else thinking Julio Borbon is going to be traded for International Free Agent Cap space?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Julio Borbon isn't worth IFA space to anybody.

[davell]

After seeing what value we gave Houston for IFA space, if we try and acquire a mill or so(which basically keeps us out of the penalty and enough to sign a 500k type) Vitters comes to mind for me. Not sure he'd bring that much back honestly(not a slight to him, I'm still holding out a bit of hope if he gets healthy). But he's likely fallen somewhat out of favor, has been overtaken by Junior Lake, and may still have a few teams that like him enough, to give us a little value back. That seems a better alternative than using a major league piece to do the same thing.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I'd trade Vitters and Jackson in a package deal for space.

[Infrequent Poster]

Julio Borbon isn't worth IFA space to anybody.

 

I was thinking the Mets or Twins might have an interest. They were rumored (or speculated) to have interest prior to the Cubs claiming him from the Rangers. I wasn't thinking a big block. Hard for me to judge the cap space value. Plus the limited action the Cubs have given Borbon. But if there's no value there, there's no value there.

[CubsWin]

Julio Borbon isn't worth IFA space to anybody.

 

I was thinking the Mets or Twins might have an interest. They were rumored (or speculated) to have interest prior to the Cubs claiming him from the Rangers. I wasn't thinking a big block. Hard for me to judge the cap space value. Plus the limited action the Cubs have given Borbon. But if there's no value there, there's no value there.

There's totally value there. It just depends on the right team. If the Cubs could get Erick Leal and Jesus Castillo (basically two decent IFA prospects) for Campana, they certainly can get a $350,000 IFA slot for Borbon. It all depends on if there's a fit out there. That said, it would be a lot easier to find a fit with a team who is wanting a prospect of some sort.

 

Tangled, keep in mind that IFA slots cost the team trading them away absolutely nothing if they don't plan on using them. If ownership doesn't intend on spending that money and there's a team wanting to acquire it, then getting something for nothing makes a lot of sense. According to BR, Borbon is better than replacement, so he's got value even if it is very little.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Julio Borbon isn't worth IFA space to anybody.

 

If Steve Clevenger was, Borbon could be. I know Clevenger was a throw in, but he must have added something to the pot.

 

With this in mind, I wonder if any of our other AAA rank and file would be worth any.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I think I'm ready to get on the bus to Camp Matt Garza's 29 And Even if Not Particulalrly Team Friendly, a 5 Year Extension Plus an Option or Two Is Likely More Valuable than Any Realistic Trade Return That We Could Expect.

 

They said they plan on doing some spending over the next few years, and who knows what will be available by then. May as well start with a guy we know is a front end starter. I know he has his history with injury, but it seems as though pretty much every veteran front end starter does these days.

[Backtobanks]

I think I'm ready to get on the bus to Camp Matt Garza's 29 And Even if Not Particulalrly Team Friendly, a 5 Year Extension Plus an Option or Two Is Likely More Valuable than Any Realistic Trade Return That We Could Expect.

 

They said they plan on doing some spending over the next few years, and who knows what will be available by then. May as well start with a guy we know is a front end starter. I know he has his history with injury, but it seems as though pretty much every veteran front end starter does these days.

 

There's not much in the FA TOR market for the next few years, so I'm not sure it's worth it unless we get an awesome haul for Garza. Any future trade for a TOR starter will really cut into the progress made in the minor league system.

[USSoccer]

I think I'm ready to get on the bus to Camp Matt Garza's 29 And Even if Not Particulalrly Team Friendly, a 5 Year Extension Plus an Option or Two Is Likely More Valuable than Any Realistic Trade Return That We Could Expect.

 

They said they plan on doing some spending over the next few years, and who knows what will be available by then. May as well start with a guy we know is a front end starter. I know he has his history with injury, but it seems as though pretty much every veteran front end starter does these days.

 

There's not much in the FA TOR market for the next few years, so I'm not sure it's worth it unless we get an awesome haul for Garza. Any future trade for a TOR starter will really cut into the progress made in the minor league system.

 

Yes, we wouldn't want to cut into the waves and waves of prospects in order to acquire a good player. One of them might turn out to be a good player.

[Backtobanks]

I think I'm ready to get on the bus to Camp Matt Garza's 29 And Even if Not Particulalrly Team Friendly, a 5 Year Extension Plus an Option or Two Is Likely More Valuable than Any Realistic Trade Return That We Could Expect.

 

They said they plan on doing some spending over the next few years, and who knows what will be available by then. May as well start with a guy we know is a front end starter. I know he has his history with injury, but it seems as though pretty much every veteran front end starter does these days.

 

There's not much in the FA TOR market for the next few years, so I'm not sure it's worth it unless we get an awesome haul for Garza. Any future trade for a TOR starter will really cut into the progress made in the minor league system.

 

Yes, we wouldn't want to cut into the waves and waves of prospects in order to acquire a good player. One of them might turn out to be a good player.

 

I certainly would be more than willing to trade some prospects for a really good player, but unfortunately we have to wait for some of these prospects to get to the ML level so we can assess what really good player to go after. Right now there are too many holes to fill by acquiring one really good player.

[mul21]

 

I certainly would be more than willing to trade some prospects for a really good player, but unfortunately we have to wait for some of these prospects to get to the ML level so we can assess what really good player to go after. Right now there are too many holes to fill by acquiring one really good player.

 

I would greatly disagree with this. You find the special player to acquire and then fill in around him because they're so hard to come by.

[Little Slide Rooter]

There may be no player in baseball that epitomizes sell high more than Travis Wood. I understand the value he brings as a long term asset even if when the smoke clears he is a 3-4 starter, but if you're really building a team for 2015 and beyond, and he can bring back a top 25 prospect and then some, I'd think you have to do it without thinking twice.

[Guest]

There may be no player in baseball that epitomizes sell high more than Travis Wood. I understand the value he brings as a long term asset even if when the smoke clears he is a 3-4 starter, but if you're really building a team for 2015 and beyond, and he can bring back a top 25 prospect and then some, I'd think you have to do it without thinking twice.

 

Geez, you're not getting a top 25 prospect for Wood.