05/17 NY Mets (Harvey) @ CUBS (Jackson) 1:20 CDT, WGN TV

[sneakypower]

before that AB, Castro was up to .322 OBP; not great, but he'd been in the .290s just a few days ago

[Fred Hornkohl]

Rizzo grounded out to first, unassisted

[Crack Wilson]

I think Castro made the right call there. Way too risky to let that drop.

 

You'd have several seconds to corral the ball and get it the 5 feet to second, so that part is pretty certain.

 

The important thing is that Barney was intentionally fielding it on the bounce. You're not allowed to intentionally drop the ball to get a DP, IIRC.

What is "IRCC" please? (trying to keep up)........ooh...Sori almost!

[Guest]

IIRC = If I Recall Correctly

[Andy]

I think Castro made the right call there. Way too risky to let that drop.

 

You'd have several seconds to corral the ball and get it the 5 feet to second, so that part is pretty certain.

 

The important thing is that Barney was intentionally fielding it on the bounce. You're not allowed to intentionally drop the ball to get a DP, IIRC.

That's why the infield fly rule exists, but if some lazybones wasn't running out a grounder to 1st, I don't think there's a rule in letting the ball drop to double him up...is there?

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE SIXTH INNING

 

Castro grounded out to first, 3-1

Rizzo grounded out to first, unassisted

Soriano struck out swinging

 

0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
NY Mets         1 0 0 1 0 0                    2  5  1
CUBS            2 0 0 0 0 0                    2  4  0

 

Home runs:

NY Mets: Wright, Murphy

CUBS: none

 

NY Mets        IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Harvey        6.0  3  2  2  0  5  0  92

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Jackson       6.0  5  2  1  1  4  2  79

[Fred Hornkohl]

          NY Mets        CUBS
P/PA          3.43        4.18
RBI%          0.00        0.20
R/BR          0.33        0.50
BA           0.227       0.182
OBP          0.261       0.182
SLG          0.500       0.227
OPS          0.761       0.409
ERA           3.00        1.50
BB/9          0.00        1.50
K/9           7.50        6.00

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 15-5 (.750) when they lead at the end of the 6th inning.... 2-18 (.100) when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Crack Wilson]

I think Castro made the right call there. Way too risky to let that drop.

 

You'd have several seconds to corral the ball and get it the 5 feet to second, so that part is pretty certain.

 

The important thing is that Barney was intentionally fielding it on the bounce. You're not allowed to intentionally drop the ball to get a DP, IIRC.

That's why the infield fly rule exists, but if some lazybones wasn't running out a grounder to 1st, I don't think there's a rule in letting the ball drop to double him up...is there?

Good question

[Guest]

I think Castro made the right call there. Way too risky to let that drop.

 

You'd have several seconds to corral the ball and get it the 5 feet to second, so that part is pretty certain.

 

The important thing is that Barney was intentionally fielding it on the bounce. You're not allowed to intentionally drop the ball to get a DP, IIRC.

That's why the infield fly rule exists, but if some lazybones wasn't running out a grounder to 1st, I don't think there's a rule in letting the ball drop to double him up...is there?

 

I'm not 100% sure, but I think there's a rule against deception in catching a fly ball in order to get a double play(or rather, trick a runner into tagging).

[Crack Wilson]

IIRC = If I Recall Correctly

OK

[Hairyducked Idiot]

IIRC = If I Recall Correctly

 

There's no rule against it per se, but the umpire can negate it by calling infield fly while it's in the air.

 

A ball hit like that has plenty of risk of funky spin, missed short-hop or even hitting the base, and I don't think you had much chance of getting the runner at first even if you field it cleanly and don't make a bad throw.

 

Just take the out.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Buck flied out to deep right field

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ankiel doubled to right field

[Crack Wilson]

He could have made that play! Also, he's playing too far left as Ankiel is a dead pull hitter.

[coldsteel]

before that AB, Castro was up to .322 OBP; not great, but he'd been in the .290s just a few days ago

Heck, if the coaches left him alone maybe he would still be hitting .322! :-$

[Guest]

I love our broadcasters.

 

"Does that hurt, running into that?"

 

"The brick wall? Yes."

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Here's a good article explaining it:

 

http://www.nwumpires.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=39:lg&catid=19:rulesarea&Itemid=7

 

There is a rule against intentionally dropping the ball, but it means literally dropping it out of your glove, not just letting it fall to the ground.

 

" “A batter is out when an infielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and third, or first, second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball is dead and runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases. APPROVED RULING: in this situation, the batter is not out if the infielder permits the ball to drop untouched to the ground, except when the Infield Fly rule applies."

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Jackson sure feels like he has trouble putting hitters away with two strikes for a guy who has an awesome K rate. It's just observer bias, but still annoying.

[Guest]

Here's a good article explaining it:

 

http://www.nwumpires.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=39:lg&catid=19:rulesarea&Itemid=7

 

There is a rule against intentionally dropping the ball, but it means literally dropping it out of your glove, not just letting it fall to the ground.

 

" “A batter is out when an infielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and third, or first, second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball is dead and runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases. APPROVED RULING: in this situation, the batter is not out if the infielder permits the ball to drop untouched to the ground, except when the Infield Fly rule applies."

 

Right, that's what I was getting at. Barney was smartly camping out and waiting for the bounce instead of fake dropping it, which is probably what Castro would've had to do with the angle he was taking.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Tejada flied out to left field

[Fred Hornkohl]

Harvey singled to left field , Ankiel scored, Harvey to second on a throwing error, E7

[Hairyducked Idiot]

@$%@#%$@#$% This is the kind of game we need to win to get back to where we deserve to be.

[Crack Wilson]

Jeez...a good throw might have nailed him.

[sneakypower]

sigh