Rick Renteria Named New Cubs Manager

[Guest]

@CubsDen Must listen. More reason to like Acta. Love his insight on young hitters. http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=9070834 … Thanks to @jayrigdon5

[Guest]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/10/04/sahadev-sharma-dialoging-about-the-managerial-dialog/

 

Great stuff on this whole thing from Sharma.

[Backtobanks]

I'm still having trouble believing that all of these brilliant, successful businessmen (Ricketts, Epstein, etc.) with their army of lawyers and financial advisors didn't have a clue about where they might be financially at this point.

Ok. What do you choose to believe?

 

To start with, I think Ricketts realizes that he makes a ton of profit with a payroll of $75 million. I think the thought that he could tear down and rebuild the Cubs with a reduced payroll for a few years intrigued Theo into coming on board. It wasn't exactly a secret that Wrigley needed renovations, the farm system was lacking, the FO and scouting were behind most other teams, the roster was bloated with overpaid players, Chicago and Illinois were broke, etc.

[Guest]

I think Acta is my guy at this point...Only thing is it seems like players didn't like him. Then again, who gives a [expletive] what Chris Perez thinks.

[Post Count Padder]

I think Acta is my guy at this point...Only thing is it seems like players didn't like him. Then again, who gives a [expletive] what Chris Perez thinks.

Perez is basically insane. I don't think he really likes anyone.

 

Also, the NY Times is reporting the Yankees are going to make a "substantial" offer to Girardi today. I guess we will find out shortly if we're moving on from him or not.

[Guest]

I think Acta is my guy at this point...Only thing is it seems like players didn't like him. Then again, who gives a [expletive] what Chris Perez thinks.

Perez is basically insane. I don't think he really likes anyone.

 

Also, the NY Times is reporting the Yankees are going to make a "substantial" offer to Girardi today. I guess we will find out shortly if we're moving on from him or not.

 

Yeah. I feel like they did that two days ago too. For people who want Girardi, it has to be a good sign that he hasn't re-upped yet...especially knowing that he wants whatever happens to be resolved quickly.

[davell]

The only reason I have to like Girardi is the hope it signifies bigger moves to accommodate him. David, I think you've convinced me, I'm moving from Bud to Manny at this point.

[XZero771679666304]

I don't have a lot of reason to like Girardi, but I don't see a compelling reason not to like him, either. Truth be told, I'd be all right with many of the names mentioned, and the only name I'd be thrilled about isn't available.

[davell]

I don't have a lot of reason to like Girardi, but I don't see a compelling reason not to like him, either. Truth be told, I'd be all right with many of the names mentioned, and the only name I'd be thrilled about isn't available.

What is Maddon worth? Would you give up a Vogelbach to get him?

[Pushfrog98]

I don't have a lot of reason to like Girardi, but I don't see a compelling reason not to like him, either. Truth be told, I'd be all right with many of the names mentioned, and the only name I'd be thrilled about isn't available.

What is Maddon worth? Would you give up a Vogelbach to get him?

I feel like it would take more than a Vogelbach to get him.

[XZero771679666304]

I don't have a lot of reason to like Girardi, but I don't see a compelling reason not to like him, either. Truth be told, I'd be all right with many of the names mentioned, and the only name I'd be thrilled about isn't available.

What is Maddon worth? Would you give up a Vogelbach to get him?

 

It's a difficult question because all we can really judge a manager's worth by is on field results, and there are so many variables that go into that. But with Maddon, his results (doing so much with so little, almost all young, internally developed players) are so compelling that, yes, I would give up Vogelbach to get him. I'd probably give up another prospect in the 10-20 range along with him, too.

 

I mean if we're talking about a player development manager, which is what we should want above all else at this point, Maddon has to be the gold standard.

Edited October 4, 2013 by XZero77

[Guest]

Bring back Dusty!

[Lefty]

I don't have a lot of reason to like Girardi, but I don't see a compelling reason not to like him, either. Truth be told, I'd be all right with many of the names mentioned, and the only name I'd be thrilled about isn't available.

What is Maddon worth? Would you give up a Vogelbach to get him?

 

It's a difficult question because all we can really judge a manager's worth by is on field results, and there are so many variables that go into that. But with Maddon, his results (doing so much with so little, almost all young, internally developed players) are so compelling that, yes, I would give up Vogelbach to get him. I'd probably give up another prospect in the 10-20 range along with him, too.

 

I mean if we're talking about a player development manager, which is what we should want above all else at this point, Maddon has to be the gold standard right now.

 

Maddon came from the Angels system and was a protégé of Scioscia. Who is next in that pipeline? Don Wakamatsu was supposed to be like that, but I think that's over. Rob Piccolo?

[Guest]

I don't have a lot of reason to like Girardi, but I don't see a compelling reason not to like him, either. Truth be told, I'd be all right with many of the names mentioned, and the only name I'd be thrilled about isn't available.

What is Maddon worth? Would you give up a Vogelbach to get him?

 

It's a difficult question because all we can really judge a manager's worth by is on field results, and there are so many variables that go into that. But with Maddon, his results (doing so much with so little, almost all young, internally developed players) are so compelling that, yes, I would give up Vogelbach to get him. I'd probably give up another prospect in the 10-20 range along with him, too.

 

I mean if we're talking about a player development manager, which is what we should want above all else at this point, Maddon has to be the gold standard right now.

 

Maddon came from the Angels system and was a protégé of Scioscia. Who is next in that pipeline? Don Wakamatsu was supposed to be like that, but I think that's over. Rob Piccolo?

 

 

Isn't Maddon kind of the anti-Scioscia? Did he learn what not to do from Mike?

[Guest]

Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 2m

I believe #Yankees will offer 3 yrs, $13M-$16M range. Been told they will never go to Torre $7M-ish area, and would let Girardi go b4 that

 

Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 3m

Of course plenty of back channel ways for Girardi to know what #Cubs or #Nationals might offer him to leave #Yankees

 

Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 4m

Girardi will haver #Yankees offer no later than today. NYY not permitting him to talk to other clubs. 1-team negotiation until get response

[Soul]

I don't *think* the Cubs would go higher than that, either.

[Clem Fandango]

Bring back Dusty!

 

http://i.imgur.com/RZr82xA.png

[Guest]

This would have been an opportunity for Acta to simply tell the fan what he wanted to hear, but instead he turned the tables on him, asking him if he would let one of his best hitters bunt with a man on first and none out in order to get the runner into scoring position. The fan answered in the affirmative, and Acta quickly told him he was wrong, before launching into his sabermetric-aided beliefs. He said unless the hitter in question is batting below .240, the stats suggest that you’re better off letting the hitter swing away.

 

“People think it’s the absolute right thing to bunt [in that situation],” Acta said, “but you need to check the stats. Back in the day, we didn’t have computers, we didn’t have Twitter, we didn’t have Facebook. They’ve come up with some things that make you open your eyes and not play like Casey Stengel used to play.”

 

 

Swoon.

[imb]

#want

[Soul]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/10/04/sahadev-sharma-dialoging-about-the-managerial-dialog/

 

Great stuff on this whole thing from Sharma.

 

Then Kyle shows up, blows up the comments section. lol

[imb]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/10/04/sahadev-sharma-dialoging-about-the-managerial-dialog/

 

Great stuff on this whole thing from Sharma.

 

Then Kyle shows up, blows up the comments section. lol

 

God kyle get the [expletive] off my planet

[Banedon]

Bernstein says that the Cubs are prepared to offer Girardi 5yrs/$30mil.

[Guest]

This would have been an opportunity for Acta to simply tell the fan what he wanted to hear, but instead he turned the tables on him, asking him if he would let one of his best hitters bunt with a man on first and none out in order to get the runner into scoring position. The fan answered in the affirmative, and Acta quickly told him he was wrong, before launching into his sabermetric-aided beliefs. He said unless the hitter in question is batting below .240, the stats suggest that you’re better off letting the hitter swing away.

 

“People think it’s the absolute right thing to bunt [in that situation],” Acta said, “but you need to check the stats. Back in the day, we didn’t have computers, we didn’t have Twitter, we didn’t have Facebook. They’ve come up with some things that make you open your eyes and not play like Casey Stengel used to play.”

 

 

Swoon.

 

I remember liking him 5+ years ago because he was SABR-savvy .

[Guest]

Bernstein says that the Cubs are prepared to offer Girardi 5yrs/$30mil.

 

Jesus Christ

 

I mean, not that I care about the money if it's not coming out of payroll, but WTF.

 

If they do this they better actually aggressively pursue winning at the MLB level this offseason.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

It all comes out of the baseball budget.