Random Cubs Musings: Minor League Edition

[Guest]

He's a good enough hitter to get on the field somewhere.

[Guest]

He's a good enough hitter to get on the field somewhere.

 

Maybe off the bench

[XZero771679666304]

He's a good enough hitter to get on the field somewhere.

 

Maybe off the bench

 

Probably, but I wouldn't be so quick to throw dirt on him.

[davell]

He's a top 10 org guy for at least 20 teams, probably 25. He certainly still has a shot at becoming a starting 1B at the major league level, just not for us.

[Guest]

He's a good enough hitter to get on the field somewhere.

 

Maybe off the bench

I would be very surprised if he doesn't end up a major league regular somewhere for a long time. You cannot teach his patience - power combination. With the kind of consistent production that he's capable of, someone will give him a shot at first, left field, or DH.

 

His peripherals are just too good.

 

I'm thinking Scott Hatteberg, but more consistently .800-.850 in the OPS category.

[A New Era]

Vogelbomb was a thing in 2012 before our farm started to explode, and while he was still young enough to envision a big time break out. There's no reason to consider him more than a 3rd piece in a big trade at this point.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I would be very surprised if he doesn't end up a major league regular somewhere for a long time. You cannot teach his patience - power combination. With the kind of consistent production that he's capable of, someone will give him a shot at first, left field, or DH.

 

His peripherals are just too good.

 

I'm thinking Scott Hatteberg, but more consistently .800-.850 in the OPS category.

 

You'd think he'd be putting up at least an .800 OPS in the minors then.

 

The walks are nice, but the power is still unimpressive. Maybe it blossoms in the next few years, maybe it doesn't.

[mul21]

He just needs to put some chub back on and he'll be fine.

[Guest]

I would be very surprised if he doesn't end up a major league regular somewhere for a long time. You cannot teach his patience - power combination. With the kind of consistent production that he's capable of, someone will give him a shot at first, left field, or DH.

 

His peripherals are just too good.

 

I'm thinking Scott Hatteberg, but more consistently .800-.850 in the OPS category.

 

You'd think he'd be putting up at least an .800 OPS in the minors then.

 

The walks are nice, but the power is still unimpressive. Maybe it blossoms in the next few years, maybe it doesn't.

 

i don't think you have to be putting up those production numbers in the minors at 21 to be projectable at those numbers in the big leagues.

 

i think his power is undeniable, even if he's not hitting 50 home runs at Daytona, and again, it's not like every power hitter in the majors destroyed at every level.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

i think his power is undeniable, even if he's not hitting 50 home runs at Daytona, and again, it's not like every power hitter in the majors destroyed at every level.

 

I think maybe there's a bit of ground to be explored between "not hitting 50 HRs at Daytona" and "not being on pace to hit 15 HRs at Daytona."

[Guest]

i think his power is undeniable, even if he's not hitting 50 home runs at Daytona, and again, it's not like every power hitter in the majors destroyed at every level.

 

I think maybe there's a bit of ground to be explored between "not hitting 50 HRs at Daytona" and "not being on pace to hit 15 HRs at Daytona."

 

and of course he's not working on his development at all in the minor leagues. it's as simple as once he had power, and now he doesn't.

[jersey cubs fan]

He's a good enough hitter to get on the field somewhere.

Sure, teach him to play cf and he'll be fine.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

i think his power is undeniable, even if he's not hitting 50 home runs at Daytona, and again, it's not like every power hitter in the majors destroyed at every level.

 

I think maybe there's a bit of ground to be explored between "not hitting 50 HRs at Daytona" and "not being on pace to hit 15 HRs at Daytona."

 

and of course he's not working on his development at all in the minor leagues. it's as simple as once he had power, and now he doesn't.

 

You are really hammering the absurd overstatement pretty hard. Probably a good idea when you don't have much of a real case to make.

[TruffleShuffle]

I would be very surprised if he doesn't end up a major league regular somewhere for a long time. You cannot teach his patience - power combination. With the kind of consistent production that he's capable of, someone will give him a shot at first, left field, or DH.

 

His peripherals are just too good.

 

I'm thinking Scott Hatteberg, but more consistently .800-.850 in the OPS category.

 

You'd think he'd be putting up at least an .800 OPS in the minors then.

 

The walks are nice, but the power is still unimpressive. Maybe it blossoms in the next few years, maybe it doesn't.

 

jorge soler barely put up an .800 OPS in daytona last year, and he was a year older than vogelbach is.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I would be very surprised if he doesn't end up a major league regular somewhere for a long time. You cannot teach his patience - power combination. With the kind of consistent production that he's capable of, someone will give him a shot at first, left field, or DH.

 

His peripherals are just too good.

 

I'm thinking Scott Hatteberg, but more consistently .800-.850 in the OPS category.

 

You'd think he'd be putting up at least an .800 OPS in the minors then.

 

The walks are nice, but the power is still unimpressive. Maybe it blossoms in the next few years, maybe it doesn't.

 

jorge soler barely put up an .800 OPS in daytona last year, and he was a year older than vogelbach is.

 

 

OK?

[Guest]

I would be very surprised if he doesn't end up a major league regular somewhere for a long time. You cannot teach his patience - power combination. With the kind of consistent production that he's capable of, someone will give him a shot at first, left field, or DH.

 

His peripherals are just too good.

 

I'm thinking Scott Hatteberg, but more consistently .800-.850 in the OPS category.

 

You'd think he'd be putting up at least an .800 OPS in the minors then.

 

The walks are nice, but the power is still unimpressive. Maybe it blossoms in the next few years, maybe it doesn't.

 

jorge soler barely put up an .800 OPS in daytona last year, and he was a year older than vogelbach is.

 

 

OK?

 

i took it to mean that vogelbach is gonna slug 800 at tennessee next year

[A New Era]

I would be very surprised if he doesn't end up a major league regular somewhere for a long time. You cannot teach his patience - power combination. With the kind of consistent production that he's capable of, someone will give him a shot at first, left field, or DH.

 

His peripherals are just too good.

 

I'm thinking Scott Hatteberg, but more consistently .800-.850 in the OPS category.

 

You'd think he'd be putting up at least an .800 OPS in the minors then.

 

The walks are nice, but the power is still unimpressive. Maybe it blossoms in the next few years, maybe it doesn't.

 

jorge soler barely put up an .800 OPS in daytona last year, and he was a year older than vogelbach is.

 

 

OK?

 

I kinda had your response in my head before you even posted. I thought about posting your thoughts but then I'd just be called Kyle Jr. by the mortals.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Maybe he will slug .800 at Tennessee next year. And maybe Soler's 62 PAs prove out a new ability level and he'll never ever have a hiccup again. And maybe Vogelbach's just as talented as Soler is.

 

Somehow this is going to turn into "Kyle said Vogelbach will fail and there's no chance he'll be any good." All I'm saying is that he's not showing nearly enough right now to be remotely confident in his ability to hit in the majors in the long run. He's a neat prospect, but he's in a class of prospects where there will be 3 flameouts for every success, at least.

[Guest]

#TeamSulleyGodDamnIt

 

If for no other reason than I refuse to believe that Vogelbomb will fail.

[Guest]

i think his power is undeniable, even if he's not hitting 50 home runs at Daytona, and again, it's not like every power hitter in the majors destroyed at every level.

 

I think maybe there's a bit of ground to be explored between "not hitting 50 HRs at Daytona" and "not being on pace to hit 15 HRs at Daytona."

 

and of course he's not working on his development at all in the minor leagues. it's as simple as once he had power, and now he doesn't.

 

You are really hammering the absurd overstatement pretty hard. Probably a good idea when you don't have much of a real case to make.

 

good debate russ

[Guest]

Maybe he will slug .800 at Tennessee next year. And maybe Soler's 62 PAs prove out a new ability level and he'll never ever have a hiccup again. And maybe Vogelbach's just as talented as Soler is.

 

Somehow this is going to turn into "Kyle said Vogelbach will fail and there's no chance he'll be any good." All I'm saying is that he's not showing nearly enough right now to be remotely confident in his ability to hit in the majors in the long run. He's a neat prospect, but he's in a class of prospects where there will be 3 flameouts for every success, at least.

 

oh hell no [expletive]

[TruffleShuffle]

I would be very surprised if he doesn't end up a major league regular somewhere for a long time. You cannot teach his patience - power combination. With the kind of consistent production that he's capable of, someone will give him a shot at first, left field, or DH.

 

His peripherals are just too good.

 

I'm thinking Scott Hatteberg, but more consistently .800-.850 in the OPS category.

 

You'd think he'd be putting up at least an .800 OPS in the minors then.

 

The walks are nice, but the power is still unimpressive. Maybe it blossoms in the next few years, maybe it doesn't.

 

jorge soler barely put up an .800 OPS in daytona last year, and he was a year older than vogelbach is.

 

 

OK?

 

you're basically saying that he's likely to fail because he isn't hitting well enough at single A, but soler (another player at an offense-first position) had a slash line that was only marginally better, and he was a year older at the level. i agree that vogelbach is not likely to be a good major league baseball player, but your logic is lousy.

[Guest]

[expletive] off and lick my ass kyle you will have a real [expletive] opinion you awful [expletive]

 

vogelbach's not a coin toss, you moosetrack

[Guest]

I would be very surprised if he doesn't end up a major league regular somewhere for a long time. You cannot teach his patience - power combination. With the kind of consistent production that he's capable of, someone will give him a shot at first, left field, or DH.

 

His peripherals are just too good.

 

I'm thinking Scott Hatteberg, but more consistently .800-.850 in the OPS category.

 

You'd think he'd be putting up at least an .800 OPS in the minors then.

 

The walks are nice, but the power is still unimpressive. Maybe it blossoms in the next few years, maybe it doesn't.

 

jorge soler barely put up an .800 OPS in daytona last year, and he was a year older than vogelbach is.

 

 

OK?

 

you're basically saying that he's likely to fail because he isn't hitting well enough at single A, but soler (another player at an offense-first position) had a slash line that was only marginally better, and he was a year older at the level. i agree that vogelbach is not likely to be a good major league baseball player, but your logic is lousy.

 

His logic is lousy because he's saying that a guy isn't likely to be any good because he hasn't hit all that well in the minors and he has negative defensive value? He needs to add the "but hey maybe he'll hit way better next year" disclaimer?

[Guest]

[expletive] off and lick my ass kyle you will have a real [expletive] opinion you awful [expletive]

 

vogelbach's not a coin toss, you moosetrack

 

Nope. Coin tosses are 50/50.