Bears Offseason Thread (Trestman new HC, pg 37)

[Wilson A2000]

Dallas is the only team that has shown interest, I believe.

 

Has Arizona said anything?

[WrigleyField 22]

especially when anything you can read about his history and process should make you feel comfortable.

 

Really? He came from KC and that is a talentless waste hole of an organization.

 

I mean, I think there's some good about his history, but "anything you can read"? Come on. The guy was a strength coach at second rate colleges for most of his career. He's had a relatively brief history in the NFL. There's plenty to question about him.

How much have you read about Emery's past? Its limited since he has come from such a low key background, but stories I've read are certainly positive.

 

Check out the War Room (about belichik). Its a great read for a football fan and Emery gets some decent mentions in the book.

 

Specifically though he was the main force behind the Falcons picking Roddy White as one example.

 

Anybody can have a write up with positive anecdotes. Hell, we spent half a decade listening to how many good individual moves Jim Hendry made while his team consistently underperformed what the resources should have produced.

 

I've read about Emery's history. It's extremely limited in the NFL with absolutely nothing that stands out from an excellence standpoint. It makes absolutely no sense to say that everything you read about his history should make you feel comfortable. There is plenty about his history that makes me uncomfortable.

I guess he's jncomfortable in the sense he has a lack of FO experience- being a primarily draft guy. We both seem to agree on his non-draft moves, which is the part he didn't have experience in.

 

As far as the draft goes, he has a pretty substantial history. There shouldn't be too much uncomfortableness of the unknown (although until you are the guy calling the shots it hard to know previsely how responsible a guy is, we can get an idea).

 

I guess I'd be interested in lining up his draft record specifically against Angelo's but off my recollection, a lot of good players were drafted with him leading drafts.

 

But looking at his first draft in charge of the Bears, I agree there are quite a few questions. However in this instance I'm also gonna look at his past drafts before I get worried he might not hack it. This draft and the next will be telling as we'll get to see how his drafts diverge from the head of scouting to GM. But right now my concerns about last year are just a blip. And those concerns I have don't mean this won't still be a good draft based on results, which you certainly need more than a year to judge.

 

 

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[Magnetic Curses]

Apparently started yelling at the cops and interfering with investigation, had slurred speech and bloodshot watery eyes, strong odor of alcohol.

 

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[rawaction]

My mock draft on my blog.

 

http://www.mr-irrelevantpgh-chi.blogspot.com/

[Banedon]

Asked if he would consider going back to the Bears if he doesn’t drum up enough interest — or money — elsewhere, Urlacher said, ‘‘It’s closed.’’

 

‘‘I think their offer is off the table, and after the way they handled it, I don’t know if I want to play for them,’’ he said. ‘‘Who knows? I may play for $2 million for someone else.’’

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/19018474-419/brian-urlacher-expected-dis-from-bears-says-hell-play-in-2013.html

[Soul]

Yesterday he said that with all he has to go through physically, $2million per year is not enough money.

 

Today he says he would play for someone else for $2million per year.

 

I love Brian Urlacher, but he's full of it.

[USSoccer]

This is why nobody should give a rats ass about Urlacher leaving. He's always been a sanctimonious, self righteous desert simpleton. He was a great enough player to overlook it for a long time, but he's not any good anymore. Watching him move laterally last year was a painful experience.

 

Screw him.

[Banedon]

This is why nobody should give a rats ass about Urlacher leaving. He's always been a sanctimonious, self righteous desert simpleton. He was a great enough player to overlook it for a long time, but he's not any good anymore. Watching him move laterally last year was a painful experience.

 

Screw him.

 

I love the guy, but I know what I'm getting with him as far as this stuff goes. Big ego, fragile emotions when it comes to the business side of the NFL.

[Soul]

I do care that he left the Bears. He's still an ass, though :).

[Banedon]

"I'm also excited. I get a chance to look around and see what's out there, if there's anything out there at all. I don't know; maybe nobody wants me," Urlacher told The Dan Patrick Show on Friday. "Who knows? We're going to find out, I know what much."

 

"The thing is, no one thought I would leave Chicago. All these teams that we've talked to, they thought, 'The (Bears) aren't going to let him go. He's not leaving. Why waste our time with this?' And it's clear now that's not the case."

[jersey cubs fan]

This is why nobody should give a rats ass about Urlacher leaving. He's always been a sanctimonious, self righteous desert simpleton. He was a great enough player to overlook it for a long time, but he's not any good anymore. Watching him move laterally last year was a painful experience.

 

Screw him.

 

Jesus, get a grip.

[Tracer Bullet]

This is why nobody should give a rats ass about Urlacher leaving. He's always been a sanctimonious, self righteous desert simpleton. He was a great enough player to overlook it for a long time, but he's not any good anymore. Watching him move laterally last year was a painful experience.

 

Screw him.

 

Given your reaction to ARam's situation I was interested to see your response. Surprised.

[Banedon]

This is why nobody should give a rats ass about Urlacher leaving. He's always been a sanctimonious, self righteous desert simpleton. He was a great enough player to overlook it for a long time, but he's not any good anymore. Watching him move laterally last year was a painful experience.

 

Screw him.

 

Jesus, get a grip.

 

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[USSoccer]

This is why nobody should give a rats ass about Urlacher leaving. He's always been a sanctimonious, self righteous desert simpleton. He was a great enough player to overlook it for a long time, but he's not any good anymore. Watching him move laterally last year was a painful experience.

 

Screw him.

 

Given your reaction to ARam's situation I was interested to see your response. Surprised.

 

There are a lot of reasons to dislike Urlacher. As a player, he's past prime and has always been a thin skinned whiner who can't handle the business side of the game. The Bears are better off without him, given the salary cap limitations in place. ARam was still productive and had always been a good soldier.

 

As a single parent, he's a clown assed clown who deserves zero respect on a personal level.

 

So basically SSR:Mark Grace = USS:Urlacher.

 

And LOL @ Jersey telling me to get a grip.

[jersey cubs fan]

This is why nobody should give a rats ass about Urlacher leaving. He's always been a sanctimonious, self righteous desert simpleton. He was a great enough player to overlook it for a long time, but he's not any good anymore. Watching him move laterally last year was a painful experience.

 

Screw him.

 

Given your reaction to ARam's situation I was interested to see your response. Surprised.

 

There are a lot of reasons to dislike Urlacher. As a player, he's past prime and has always been a thin skinned whiner who can't handle the business side of the game. The Bears are better off without him, given the salary cap limitations in place. ARam was still productive and had always been a good soldier.

 

As a single parent, he's a clown assed clown who deserves zero respect on a personal level.

 

So basically SSR:Mark Grace = USS:Urlacher.

 

And LOL @ Jersey telling me to get a grip.

 

Laugh all you want but your whining sounds idiotic.

[Tracer Bullet]

This is why nobody should give a rats ass about Urlacher leaving. He's always been a sanctimonious, self righteous desert simpleton. He was a great enough player to overlook it for a long time, but he's not any good anymore. Watching him move laterally last year was a painful experience.

 

Screw him.

 

Given your reaction to ARam's situation I was interested to see your response. Surprised.

 

There are a lot of reasons to dislike Urlacher. As a player, he's past prime and has always been a thin skinned whiner who can't handle the business side of the game. The Bears are better off without him, given the salary cap limitations in place. ARam was still productive and had always been a good soldier.

 

As a single parent, he's a clown assed clown who deserves zero respect on a personal level.

 

So basically SSR:Mark Grace = USS:Urlacher.

 

And LOL @ Jersey telling me to get a grip.

 

What does being a single parent have to do with it? What am I missing?

 

I don't recall Urlacher whining in public when he was leading the best defense in the league and his team couldn't put an offense out there that could score at all. I don't remember him complaining about not getting paid enough during his 13 years. Did I miss it? I'll admit that I don't follow the NFL as closely as some other sports but I'm shocked at how so many fans, including here, are basically like "meh, [expletive] off brian."

[jersey cubs fan]

Urlacher was as loyal to his coach as any player in the game and his teammates practically worshipped him. He also happened to be really good and his career took a nosedive because of injury.

 

But he knocked up a stripper and that cannot be permitted.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm not like "[expletive] off," but given how it's clearly the end of his career I really can't muster much disappointment or anything along those lines.

[Tracer Bullet]

I'm not like "[expletive] off," but given how it's clearly the end of his career I really can't muster much disappointment or anything along those lines.

 

As in, he won't even get a contract for next year?

[USSoccer]

Urlacher was as loyal to his coach as any player in the game and his teammates practically worshipped him. He also happened to be really good and his career took a nosedive because of injury.

 

But he knocked up a stripper and that cannot be permitted.

 

Yeah. It was him knocking up a stripper and not his assholish behavior after.

 

Also, most football players are loyal to their coaches and what not. It's part of the meatball code of the game. That shouldn't be lauded. That's whatever. He wasn't particularly loyal to a couple QBs over the years either.

 

If he was so loyal, he would have looked at the cap situation and realized that it wasn't "lack of respect" driving that offer; it was a limited budget.

[jersey cubs fan]

The knocks on Urlacher are:

 

He's dumb.

He knocked up a stripper after his first marriage fell apart.

He basically said he doesn't care about fans who boo.

 

 

He's not a choir boy like the Mannings but he's pretty much got a spotless record when it comes to what you'd expect from typical athletes. No murders, no rapes, no DUI or abandoning his car on the highway after crashing at 4am. No prolonged heated contract issues.

[jersey cubs fan]

Urlacher was as loyal to his coach as any player in the game and his teammates practically worshipped him. He also happened to be really good and his career took a nosedive because of injury.

 

But he knocked up a stripper and that cannot be permitted.

 

Yeah. It was him knocking up a stripper and not his assholish behavior after.

 

Yes, I'm sure that custody battle was all Brian being a jerk and probably not at all a stripper mom acting like a stripper mom.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm not like "[expletive] off," but given how it's clearly the end of his career I really can't muster much disappointment or anything along those lines.

 

As in, he won't even get a contract for next year?

 

No, as in "he's not very good or possibly even useful." If he can get a deal, great, but I don't expect him to last more than another season and maybe part of a second.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not like "[expletive] off," but given how it's clearly the end of his career I really can't muster much disappointment or anything along those lines.

 

As in, he won't even get a contract for next year?

 

No, as in "he's not very good or possibly even useful." If he can get a deal, great, but I don't expect him to last more than another season and maybe part of a second.

 

I think he could be quite useful still. I think $2m is the exact right price and allows you to not do something stupid like draft a linebacker in the first round.

[USSoccer]

 

What does being a single parent have to do with it? What am I missing?

 

I don't recall Urlacher whining in public when he was leading the best defense in the league and his team couldn't put an offense out there that could score at all. I don't remember him complaining about not getting paid enough during his 13 years. Did I miss it? I'll admit that I don't follow the NFL as closely as some other sports but I'm shocked at how so many fans, including here, are basically like "meh, [expletive] off brian."

 

Didn't he make like $80m in his time with the Bears? Not counting all the chances to suck off the advertising teat in a football insane major market?

 

Eh. I may be coming off pretty meatball, but I couldn't care less about him leaving.