Week 16 The Desperate Bears @ Arizona Cardinals

[Guest]

Mike McCoy is really intriguing. He's done good things in Denver and proved to be able to adapt to personnel. He had a hand in Carolina when Delhomme was actually pretty good.

 

Anyone willing to give Kyle Shanhan a whirl as HC?

 

Payton's a pipe dream obviously and I'd be down for Gruden. Cowher's been away from the game too long for my liking.

 

Yeah, McCoy seems very interesting.

[Banedon]

Bears are considering putting Bush on IR due to the rib injury.

[UMFan83]

Bears are considering putting Bush on IR due to the rib injury.

 

Could a team made up of Bears players on IR beat the active Bears? And I don't mean without their current injuries.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Bears are considering putting Bush on IR due to the rib injury.

 

Could a team made up of Bears players on IR beat the active Bears? And I don't mean without their current injuries.

 

 

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[Banedon]

Posted on Reddit:

 

Lovie's mentor, Tony Dungy was fired from the Bucs despite regularly making the playoffs because his offense was inept. Dungy went through 3 offensive coordinators in his last three years as head coach... Gruden came in the next year and won the Superbowl.

[UMFan83]

Posted on Reddit:

 

Lovie's mentor, Tony Dungy was fired from the Bucs despite regularly making the playoffs because his offense was inept. Dungy went through 3 offensive coordinators in his last three years as head coach... Gruden came in the next year and won the Superbowl.

 

With the 2nd or 3rd worst offense in Super Bowl history, right?

 

Edit: nevermind, that could be true but the place I saw that the other day was here: http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/worst-super-bowl-winning-offenses/5721/ and it was just a simple "PPG" comparison.

[Banedon]

Bush does go to the IR.

[Banedon]

How your team was assembled: http://www.profootballrosters.com/2012/12/02/2012-how-assembled-charts/

 

Green Bay has 10 more drafted players on their roster than we do.

 

EDIT: In fact, so far I can't find a team that has fewer drafted players on the roster.

 

EDIT2: Rams have only 20.

[rawaction]

Only 3 first round picks. One from 12 years ago, 1 benched from 2 different positions this year and the other doesn't look like a 3 down player. The last 2 are the last 2 firsts.

[KingCubsFan]

Only 3 first round picks. One from 12 years ago, 1 benched from 2 different positions this year and the other doesn't look like a 3 down player. The last 2 are the last 2 firsts.

Has there been any hint of Shea's role long-term?

[Banedon]

Only 3 first round picks. One from 12 years ago, 1 benched from 2 different positions this year and the other doesn't look like a 3 down player. The last 2 are the last 2 firsts.

Has there been any hint of Shea's role long-term?

 

Probably need to figure out who the head coach is next year first, and what kind of defensive scheme they'll be running.

[UK1679666180]

The Bears have had horrible drafts/lack of player development. They have had relatively decent success in trades and FA but can't compliment it with the final and most vital piece of the puzzle.

 

Too early to judge but early indicators are not positive for Emery's 1st draft. His FA crop wasn't successful either both Bush and Campbell were disappointments.

 

Put me in the McCoy camp, don't know enough about O'Brien. Don't want Kelly. Wonder if Cowher joined would he/they go after a DC that wants a 3-4 scheme? Not sold on Gruden, as much pub as he gets for being a QB guru, there's not a great background there as far as developing.

[jersey cubs fan]

Campbell were disappointments.

 

That was just a needless signing. If Cutler goes down the season is over, so don't bother wasting money on his backup.

 

Instead of that money they spent on backup RB/QB it would have been nice to sign a legit OL.

[Mark Priors Calves]

Campbell were disappointments.

 

That was just a needless signing. If Cutler goes down the season is over, so don't bother wasting money on his backup.

 

Instead of that money they spent on backup RB/QB it would have been nice to sign a legit OL.

The Campbell signing was Jim Hendry-esque in the sense that it was an immediate reaction to the reason why the previous season was deemed to be unsuccessful.

[Banedon]

Campbell were disappointments.

 

That was just a needless signing. If Cutler goes down the season is over, so don't bother wasting money on his backup.

 

Instead of that money they spent on backup RB/QB it would have been nice to sign a legit OL.

The Campbell signing was Jim Hendry-esque in the sense that it was an immediate reaction to the reason why the previous season was deemed to be unsuccessful.

 

No real way to boil it down like that this year.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Campbell were disappointments.

 

That was just a needless signing. If Cutler goes down the season is over, so don't bother wasting money on his backup.

 

Instead of that money they spent on backup RB/QB it would have been nice to sign a legit OL.

 

If the bears had Campbell when Cutler when down last year, I tend to think that they would have at least beat the Chiefs and probably even the Raiders the week before. Win those two games and the bears (I assume) make the playoffs at 10-6 and likely have a healthy Cutler for the playoffs. Remember how much better the offense looked when McCown was in as opposed to Hankie Pankie?

[Banedon]

Campbell were disappointments.

 

That was just a needless signing. If Cutler goes down the season is over, so don't bother wasting money on his backup.

 

Instead of that money they spent on backup RB/QB it would have been nice to sign a legit OL.

 

If the bears had Campbell when Cutler when down last year, I tend to think that they would have at least beat the Chiefs and probably even the Raiders the week before. Win those two games and the bears (I assume) make the playoffs at 10-6 and likely have a healthy Cutler for the playoffs. Remember how much better the offense looked when McCown was in as opposed to Hankie Pankie?

 

So keep McCown. Campbell was still unnecessary.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Campbell were disappointments.

 

That was just a needless signing. If Cutler goes down the season is over, so don't bother wasting money on his backup.

 

Instead of that money they spent on backup RB/QB it would have been nice to sign a legit OL.

 

If the bears had Campbell when Cutler when down last year, I tend to think that they would have at least beat the Chiefs and probably even the Raiders the week before. Win those two games and the bears (I assume) make the playoffs at 10-6 and likely have a healthy Cutler for the playoffs. Remember how much better the offense looked when McCown was in as opposed to Hankie Pankie?

 

So keep McCown. Campbell was still unnecessary.

 

While it's up for debate, Campbell was/is supposed to be a significant upgrade. And while I do agree that OL was a bigger need this past offseason, the availability of quality lineman were in short supply, if I'm not mistaken.

 

Would have been nice to pick Riley Reiff instead of a situational pass rusher that struggles to rush the passer.

[cubbyvirus00]

The Bears have had horrible drafts/lack of player development. They have had relatively decent success in trades and FA but can't compliment it with the final and most vital piece of the puzzle.

 

Too early to judge but early indicators are not positive for Emery's 1st draft. His FA crop wasn't successful either both Bush and Campbell were disappointments.

 

Put me in the McCoy camp, don't know enough about O'Brien. Don't want Kelly. Wonder if Cowher joined would he/they go after a DC that wants a 3-4 scheme? Not sold on Gruden, as much pub as he gets for being a QB guru, there's not a great background there as far as developing.

 

This. I'm very disappointed in Emery's first draft. I thought the trade up for Alshon was good, but everything else sucked.

 

This team simply cannot afford more bad drafting.

[DivineBovine]

But the offense has looked inept with either Cutler or Campbell. Some of the Raider offenses with Campbell have looked better. Tough to point fingers at the backup QB when the offense clearly hasn't been remotely competent for a prolonged period of time this year. I blame Tice more than any player. Even the entire offensive line.

[RynoRules]

I didn't realize we draft so poorly. That is depressing. Now that I think of it, there is probably a heavy correlation between shitty OLines and crappy drafting.

[jersey cubs fan]

I didn't realize we draft so poorly. That is depressing. Now that I think of it, there is probably a heavy correlation between [expletive] OLines and crappy drafting.

 

They had some quality drafts here and there, but the busted one after the Super Bowl (2007) really led to a major downfall, as did the self-imposed desperation for taking offensive lineman early in 2008 and 2011. Had they done a better job of just maintaining an average line, they could have gone BPA in both of those drafts, and go OL in 2/3/4. They also wasted the Olsen pick by hiring a guy who had no use for him, had to trade for Cutler and give up a pick for Marshall.

[Guest]

What about Tom Clements as a potential new HC?

[rawaction]

What about Tom Clements as a potential new HC?

 

Yes please! I'm down with anyone who leads one of the league's best offenses.

[BigSlick]

Us pulling out the last two games and still missing out at tiebreakers at 10-6 would add nice symmetry to 2008 when the Bears needed astronomical things to happen for them to be viable for a wild card in the last week, THEY ALL DID HAPPEN, and then they lost to the Texans anyway.