College Football - Bowl Games

[Guest]

If the SEC is not the best conference in the country, then who is?

 

They might be the best conference by default, but somehow are still overrated

 

3-2-1 against the spread so far would indicate they are properly rated by people.

 

No one is talking about how Vegas rates the SEC.

[chuckywang]

If the SEC is not the best conference in the country, then who is?

 

They might be the best conference by default, but somehow are still overrated

 

3-2-1 against the spread so far would indicate they are properly rated by people.

 

No one is talking about how Vegas rates the SEC.

 

Spreads are determined by the trends of the bettors, which isn't Vegas.

[Andy]

If the SEC is not the best conference in the country, then who is?

They are the best conference. The argument of folks like me and several others in this thread isn't that the SEC is inferior to anyone, just that the open talk of how half the league would destroy any other team in the country regardless of circumstance is silly.

[Tracer Bullet]

Jones says he's playing, though he's still in a boot. His matchup with Nix, and the latter's ability to draw a double and keep the Gs off Teo, will be a huge factor in stopping the run.

[SouthSideRyan]

1. The SEC is 2-3-1 against the spread.

 

2. They have underperformed the spread by 31.5 points in those 6 games.

[jersey cubs fan]

If the SEC is not the best conference in the country, then who is?

 

They might be the best conference by default, but somehow are still overrated

 

3-2-1 against the spread so far would indicate they are properly rated by people.

 

No one is talking about how Vegas rates the SEC.

 

Spreads are determined by the trends of the bettors, which isn't Vegas.

 

Bettors also aren't ESPN and the national media or the population as a whole.

[Tracer Bullet]

The narrative is that the sec is dominant. I hear all the time that ND would lose to 8 SEC teams. It's not just whether the conference is the best but whether it's far superior to any other. The bowls have suggested that if the SEC is the best, it's not by a wide margin.

 

After Bama, I'd take Stanford, Oregon, and maybe Ok over any other SEC team.

[Guest]

They might be the best conference by default, but somehow are still overrated

 

3-2-1 against the spread so far would indicate they are properly rated by people.

 

No one is talking about how Vegas rates the SEC.

 

Spreads are determined by the trends of the bettors, which isn't Vegas.

 

Bettors also aren't ESPN and the national media or the population as a whole.

 

Yeah, what gooney said.

[Guest]

Jones says he's playing, though he's still in a boot. His matchup with Nix, and the latter's ability to draw a double and keep the Gs off Teo, will be a huge factor in stopping the run.

 

Alabama has to double Nix. No way Jones can handle him one-on-one, healthy or not.

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Jones says he's playing, though he's still in a boot. His matchup with Nix, and the latter's ability to draw a double and keep the Gs off Teo, will be a huge factor in stopping the run.

 

Alabama has to double Nix. No way Jones can handle him one-on-one, healthy or not.

 

Maybe at 100% but I don't see how he can move Nix alone with a bum foot. And ND plays a mix of fronts, so I'd expect to see more 4-down with Shembo at end and Tuitt inside, similar to how they played Stanford (only 20% of snaps that game were in a 3-down look). Gonna be fun to watch unless Nix is driven 10 yards out of the play every snap.

[Guest]

Has anyone here been pushing that "SEC reserves would win any other conference" narrative, or are people using NSBB to argue with ESPN like with the Tebow stuff?

[SouthSideRyan]

Has anyone here been pushing that "SEC reserves would win any other conference" narrative, or are people using NSBB to argue with ESPN like with the Tebow stuff?

 

I don't know has Hosak made his annual re-emergence this season?

[jersey cubs fan]

Has anyone here been pushing that "SEC reserves would win any other conference" narrative, or are people using NSBB to argue with ESPN like with the Tebow stuff?

 

What does it mean to use NSBB to argue with ESPN?

[Guest]

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[SpongeWorthy]

My beef is the implicit assumption that if you play in the SEC you're automatically playing tougher schedules than everyone else. Between unbalanced conference schedules and dreck OOC opponents, it doesn't hold much water.

[OleMissCub]

My beef is the implicit assumption that if you play in the SEC you're automatically playing tougher schedules than everyone else. Between unbalanced conference schedules and dreck OOC opponents, it doesn't hold much water.

 

I dunno, it's pretty damn hard for a middle tier school like Ole Miss to get 8-9 wins when you have to play Bama, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas, and then someone the likes of Flordia, Georgia, or South Carolona every single year. SEC schools have to schedule cupcake OOC games because nobody would ever win more than 8 games unless they were just insanely dominant.

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My beef is the implicit assumption that if you play in the SEC you're automatically playing tougher schedules than everyone else. Between unbalanced conference schedules and dreck OOC opponents, it doesn't hold much water.

 

I dunno, it's pretty damn hard for a middle tier school like Ole Miss to get 8-9 wins when you have to play Bama, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas, and then someone the likes of Flordia, Georgia, or South Carolona every single year. SEC schools have to schedule cupcake OOC games because nobody would ever win more than 8 games unless they were just insanely dominant.

 

I'd gladly play in any other conference.

 

Auburn and Arkansas suck this year. Miss St was a cupcake 8-win team. You don't have to schedule FCS schools. If you can't get 8-9 wins against an all-FBS schedule, then you suck.

[bukie]

My beef is the implicit assumption that if you play in the SEC you're automatically playing tougher schedules than everyone else. Between unbalanced conference schedules and dreck OOC opponents, it doesn't hold much water.

 

I dunno, it's pretty damn hard for a middle tier school like Ole Miss to get 8-9 wins when you have to play Bama, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas, and then someone the likes of Flordia, Georgia, or South Carolona every single year. SEC schools have to schedule cupcake OOC games because nobody would ever win more than 8 games unless they were just insanely dominant.

And there is the implicit assumption that Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas, Florida are automatically tougher than any other conference slate.

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Look at Vandy. At least they played 2 real OOC games though WF sucks. But they got to 9 wins despite losing to each of the 4 best (and only ranked) teams on their schedule. You're telling me you couldn't replace Presbyterian with a team that could actually win a game in the Big South and still get a W? It's not just the cupcakes, it's how fluffy these teams are. You're taking on the worst FCS schools out there. It's pathetic.

[ConstableRabbit]

Look at Vandy. At least they played 2 real OOC games though WF sucks. But they got to 9 wins despite losing to each of the 4 best (and only ranked) teams on their schedule. You're telling me you couldn't replace Presbyterian with a team that could actually win a game in the Big South and still get a W? It's not just the cupcakes, it's how fluffy these teams are. You're taking on the worst FCS schools out there. It's pathetic.

Vandy just canceled the rest of its Northwestern and Ohio St. series, likely to replace them with cupcakes.

[OleMissCub]

Auburn and Arkansas suck this year.

 

No isht. I wasn't aware we were just talking about this season.

 

Miss St was a cupcake 8-win .

 

They are the biggest joke in college football.

[Splendid Splinter]

Arkansas should've been a lot better than they were, but John L Smith sucks. Were they like a 9-3 or 10-2 team? No, because their defense is bad. They should've at least went to a bowl game though.

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Grantland just needs to give up on cfb.

 

"Both Alabama and the Irish went on the road and beat up on teams that had been hyped before the season but turned out to be weak — for Alabama that opponent was Arkansas, for Notre Dame it was Oklahoma."

[CubInOK]

Grantland just needs to give up on cfb.

 

"Both Alabama and the Irish went on the road and beat up on teams that had been hyped before the season but turned out to be weak — for Alabama that opponent was Arkansas, for Notre Dame it was Oklahoma."

Yea... 10-win teams usually aren't weak.

[Andy]

Grantland just needs to give up on cfb.

 

"Both Alabama and the Irish went on the road and beat up on teams that had been hyped before the season but turned out to be weak — for Alabama that opponent was Arkansas, for Notre Dame it was Oklahoma."

Wow, that's really bad.