The 2012 Offseason Thread

[ctcf]

Right. TY is the source (short for ABTY7), 12/4 is the date...

 

ahhahahaha

 

sorry, it wasn't super obvious to me that someone would need to abbreviate a 5 character name...

 

Ok, "CT."

 

Hahaha, no problem, VI

[mookie]

It's in the little brown book.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Once Victorino signs, that just leaves Bourn as a worthwhile outfielder, right?

 

I'm going to be pretty annoyed if we get aced out of all the good outfielders. It was a CF/OF heavy market, we've got a ton of money, we have one MLB quality starting OFer, and Hoyer even admitted we could use a veteran because we don't have any prospects that would be blocked.

[Guest]

Nick Cafardo ‏@nickcafardo

 

Red Sox front runners on Shane Victorino. Offered three year $38 mill deal.

[SouthSideRyan]

Nick Cafardo ‏@nickcafardo

 

Red Sox front runners on Shane Victorino. Offered three year $38 mill deal.

 

Holy [expletive], really?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Damn.

[ctcf]

Sweet Jesus

[Sammy Sofa]

OK, NOW one should ask "what the [expletive] are the Red Sox doing?".

[Guest]

Channeling their inner Ned Coletti.

[SABR Gamer]

Someone on PSD said that it was a typo. It's 3 years $30 million, not $38 million.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Is Victorino hurt or something? He's been averaging 4 WAR a year. Why would 3/38 be terrible?

[XZero771679666304]

Someone on PSD said that it was a typo. It's 3 years $30 million, not $38 million.

 

Rosenthal just said 3/37.5

[Guest]

Someone on PSD said that it was a typo. It's 3 years $30 million, not $38 million.

 

I think that person is wrong.

[pitchcs]

Is Victorino hurt or something? He's been averaging 4 WAR a year. Why would 3/38 be terrible?

 

Because he's gonna be 32-34 years old during that contract and is probably not going to be stealing 40 bases a season.

 

I'm not saying it's horrible, just not right for the Cubs at this time.

[SABR Gamer]

Someone on PSD said that it was a typo. It's 3 years $30 million, not $38 million.

 

I think that person is wrong.

 

Guess so. I was just repeating what I saw.

[SouthSideRyan]

Is Victorino hurt or something? He's been averaging 4 WAR a year. Why would 3/38 be terrible?

 

I don't trust aging guys whose skills aren't tied to their bats.

[apete6]

A Justin Upton to Philly for Cliff Lee + Cash is being discussed. Why? I don't know.

[Little Slide Rooter]

A Justin Upton to Philly for Cliff Lee + Cash is being discussed. Why? I don't know.

 

My guess is that it's an unoffical 3 team trade of some sort. When you have some of the best young pitching on Earth, you don't just give up a 25 year old superstar and top trade chip for a 35 year old. I know Arizona's in the hunt for a SS, so it could be that something pre-arranged. Texas?

[XZero771679666304]

The Upton/Lee rumor has been pretty thoroughly repudiated.

[Guest]

Victorino to play RF for the Red Sox..........

[Hairyducked Idiot]

SOSH is pretty suicidal over this one. His fWAR is weird, because when you start to break it down it sure seems like he sucks.

[ctcf]

Lol @ 3/39 for Victorino

[Ballgame64]

Victorino to play RF for the Red Sox..........

Outfield now consists of Jonny Gomes, Ellsbury and Victorino. Does that sound like a group that will get Red Sox fans excited after the collapse in 2011 and the Bobby Valentine debacle in 2012?

 

After a bad year, Shane Victorino gets almost a 50% raise. This will sound like a bitter old man, but the money these players are getting is ridiculous.

[davell]

Lol @ 3/39 for Victorino

DUAL FRONTS!!!!!!!!

[XZero771679666304]

Lol @ 3/39 for Victorino

 

I haven't seen one positive opinion on this signing.