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Game 10 - BEARS @ San Francisco 49ers - 7:30 MNF


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None of the Bears players had a good night last night, obviously. But the more I think about it, and more I read, it really seems like the coaching staff really failed miserably to prepare this team this week.
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Where is the creativity with the routes. Seriously. Do the Bears run anything other than slant, go, out and comeback routes? Where are the corner routes that gave the Bears problems last night? Where are the crossing patterns, pick plays, double moves? I know some of those take time to develop, but damn do something. The Wrs can't beat man coverage other than Marshall. They aren't even using Marshall to open it up for everyone else (crossing routes making the d choose). This whole offense is elementary. Every team knows what they are going to do.
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http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/185uo8nt3c7nggif/original.gif

 

Yup, that about sums it up.

Wow - all four guys getting owned.

 

Urlacher wasn't really getting owned. It was play action, he stepped up when it looked like run then backed away.

 

Briggs looked horrible but that's also the kind of hit a guy gets more credit for live than after watching film. Briggs recognized pass too late and as he tried to slow and backup all it took was a shove to knock him on his ass. He got caught in between.

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None of the Bears players had a good night last night, obviously. But the more I think about it, and more I read, it really seems like the coaching staff really failed miserably to prepare this team this week.

 

That is unacceptable and a fireable offense of Lovie really didn't look at game film of Kaepernick.

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None of the Bears players had a good night last night, obviously. But the more I think about it, and more I read, it really seems like the coaching staff really failed miserably to prepare this team this week.

 

That is unacceptable and a fireable offense of Lovie really didn't look at game film of Kaepernick.

 

It was a masterful bit of subterfuge to pretend Smith was playing then calling him out at last minute. The Bears are the Ron Burgundy of coaching staffs. They will read whatever you put in the prompter, and rely on who they are to carry them through the game, rather than make adjustments and actually gameplan.

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None of the Bears players had a good night last night, obviously. But the more I think about it, and more I read, it really seems like the coaching staff really failed miserably to prepare this team this week.

 

That is unacceptable and a fireable offense of Lovie really didn't look at game film of Kaepernick.

 

From Urlacher's postgame quotes it sounds like they watched film of Kaepernick though.

 

Was [QB Colin] Kaepernick better than you thought?

“No. We knew that he runs the ball well, throws the ball well. [LB] Blake [Costanzo] told us he had a good arm and he did. Nothing surprised us about him. We saw him on film and he is fast, he makes good decisions, if he doesn’t have it he throws it away or he takes off. He did the same thing tonight; he made some good throws when he had to. He did whatever he wanted to, he had all kinds of time.”

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We still win next week against the Vikings and the Packers lose at New York.

 

Does it matter? We will lose our first playoff game anyway. At best we win one. This team has no chance of making it to the Super Bowl.

 

That's ridiculous.

 

Jesus Christ. Reading through this thread is maddening. I can't believe how some people continually allow themselves to freak out over one game (this goes for all teams/sports).

 

This isn't college. Assuming no surprise injuries, little to nothing happened tonight to impact our chances at a championship.

 

Not really, this is a theme. Not one week. The issues (on O) that killed us this week have been issues all season and aren't going to change. We aren't winning the Super Bowl and it's about much more than just this game. You are the one who doesn't want to see that. I am usually as blindly optimistic as possible about the Bears, but it's time to accept the reality.

 

All it takes is a playoff berth and 3-4 wins in a row (against varying types and quality of opponents - not necessarily linear) to win a Super Bowl. Nothing about last night changes that.

 

The issues that killed us this week were an elite defense that had been putting up historic levels of performance underperformed massively and Jason Campbell was playing quarterback in an offense that (of the quarterbacks on this team) only Jay Cutler can make look halfway decent.

 

Oh, and they were facing a really really good team while doing these awful things.

 

Calling me delusional is [expletive] laughable. I don't think we're favorites to win anything and I never would've thought that meant much of anything. This is the NFL. All kinds of teams make and win Super Bowls, and it's rarely the best ones. You just need to be good enough to be in the mix.

 

This is fair. I mean you never know, maybe the O gets hot at the right time. I just don't think it's very likely to happen. I think the chance that the negatives overwhelm the positives (on O) is extremely likely at this point.

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I know Carimi looked the most brutal of anyone yesteday, but I have seen nothing from Rachal at all since he was given a staring spot. Why has Edwin Williams not been given much of an opportunity?
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Who knows, they all suck. And these idiots felt it wise to bench and then release their best lineman from last season.

 

I would love to never again hear the phrase "coach them up" as it refers to this line. That failed strategy has gone on too long.

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Just wanted to point out that the 49ers did the same thing to the Packers defense that they did last night. Packers couldn't stop the run or the pass. I wouldn't be freaking out yet if I were a Bears fan.
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Just wanted to point out that the 49ers did the same thing to the Packers defense that they did last night. Packers couldn't stop the run or the pass. I wouldn't be freaking out yet if I were a Bears fan.

 

Yeah but GB's D is significantly worse than the Bears' D.

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Just wanted to point out that the 49ers did the same thing to the Packers defense that they did last night. Packers couldn't stop the run or the pass. I wouldn't be freaking out yet if I were a Bears fan.

 

Yeah but GB's D is significantly worse than the Bears' D.

 

It isn't near as good but it hasn't been bad this year...

 

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

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Just wanted to point out that the 49ers did the same thing to the Packers defense that they did last night. Packers couldn't stop the run or the pass. I wouldn't be freaking out yet if I were a Bears fan.

 

Yeah but GB's D is significantly worse than the Bears' D.

 

It isn't near as good but it hasn't been bad this year...

 

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

 

Yeah I know, it's actually been good. The Bears have just been SO much better than them.

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Just wanted to point out that the 49ers did the same thing to the Packers defense that they did last night. Packers couldn't stop the run or the pass. I wouldn't be freaking out yet if I were a Bears fan.

 

Yeah but GB's D is significantly worse than the Bears' D.

 

Right, and just because the 49ers did it to another good team doesn't make me feel better. Chances are we're gonna have to get through the 49ers if we wanna get to the SB.

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I definitely overreacted last night, because I keep forgetting there really isn't a team in the league that is a legitimate power house, so you really never know.

 

I just really hated everything about last night, and it was an example of everything I hate about the Bears x1,000,000.

 

Last night really sucked and it pisses me off because our issues won't be fixed until the offseason, meaning another (at least probably) wasted season of Jay's prime and our aging D.

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Just wanted to point out that the 49ers did the same thing to the Packers defense that they did last night. Packers couldn't stop the run or the pass. I wouldn't be freaking out yet if I were a Bears fan.

 

Yeah but GB's D is significantly worse than the Bears' D.

 

It isn't near as good but it hasn't been bad this year...

 

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

 

Didn't say they were equal, but the 49ers put the Packers (a good defensive team) through the meat-grinder as well. The 49ers game plan will have to change if they meet either team in the postseason because their advantage over both defenses is not physical but prep work. The next time around both teams would be ready for what the 49ers brought the first time.

 

i.e. The 2007-08 Giants were 0-4 (3 of those games at home) against DAL, GB and NE. Of course, they beat TB, DAL and GB all on the road and NE at a neutral site.

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I just really hated everything about last night, and it was an example of everything I hate about the Bears x1,000,000.

 

It really was. So many things that have been troubling at times in the past, or in some cases at all times, showed up last night. Lost in it all was another splendid waste of timeouts by both the offense and defense.

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I just really hated everything about last night, and it was an example of everything I hate about the Bears x1,000,000.

 

It really was. So many things that have been troubling at times in the past, or in some cases at all times, showed up last night. Lost in it all was another splendid waste of timeouts by both the offense and defense.

 

And it lacked everything the Bears have done well. Couldn't defend the pass. Couldn't get to the QB. Couldn't get turnovers.

 

A perfect storm.

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I just really hated everything about last night, and it was an example of everything I hate about the Bears x1,000,000.

 

It really was. So many things that have been troubling at times in the past, or in some cases at all times, showed up last night. Lost in it all was another splendid waste of timeouts by both the offense and defense.

 

And it lacked everything the Bears have done well. Couldn't defend the pass. Couldn't get to the QB. Couldn't get turnovers.

 

A perfect storm.

 

The Bears cannot score points this season with their offense. I had the game off by halftime. It was a bloodbath and a perfect summary of the Bears organization from the talent gap to the coaches gameplan. The holes on this team are killing us.

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Brad Biggs laying it out:

 

What the Bears have is a talent deficiency and this is a deep-rooted problem that goes back to the early years of Jerry Angelo’s administration. I’ve written time and time again how the Bears ignored the offensive line in the draft and therefore had no young players in the system. When Angelo made an effort to get one in 2008, he went bust with Chris Williams, now an ex-Bear. This isn’t a new problem and those who want to cast blame on offensive coordinator Mike Tice need to take a long look at the man who bears ultimate responsibility for the offense: Lovie Smith. But ultimately, what the Bears have here is a personnel issue on the offensive line, one that can be a surprise to positively no one, new general manager Phil Emery included. There is no quick solution and that is the answer no one wants to accept.
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Your Jeff George Memorial Least for Week 11 are J’Marcus Webb and Gabe Carimi, who each allowed three sacks in the Bears’ Monday night loss in San Francisco. Apparently, they were so leasty that photographers didn’t even bother to take their picture, so here’s an image of Jason Campbell getting his face mashed instead.

 

Also receiving consideration: Sheldon Brown Andrew Luck, Mason Crosby and Ryan Lindley

 

 

 

Read more: http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2012/11/meast-and-least-for-week-11.html#ixzz2Cn7qtFF7

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This game showed just how valuable Cutler is. He makes do with the same garbage talent around him that Campbell could do nothing with. It's not really Campbell's fault. 99% of NFL quarterbacks would look awful on this offense with this line and this coordinator.

 

x1000

 

You'd think more people would recognize how good he's been for the franchise, but many don't. Well, maybe after last night, for a little while, everyone will.

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There is no quick solution and that is the answer no one wants to accept.

I'm not really sure what the point of this comment is. Does Biggs want to take the role of the "you have to accept reality" Cubs writer who basks in the glory of a complete rebuild? The fact is that yes actually, talent overhauls can be done quite quickly by competent NFL personel men and coaches. The Bears have enough talent right now to be 7-3, so they are not completely devoid of talent. There are quick fixes to patch the problem, if not completely solve it. Schemes can be designed weak to weak to take advantage of opponents and at least partially offset your own issues. If SF can scheme an offense with a backup QB to completely dominate the Bears defense, despite being a poor pass blocking team themselves, then it can be done. Lovie is to be blamed for the offense in so far as he preached defense, special teams and running the ball above passing for so long. And he is to be blamed for his own poor decisions in drafts when he got more power after the super bowl. And he is to be blamed for the coaching deficit they have on the offensive side. But that doesn't negate the fact that Tice is the GD offensive coordinator, and that Tice gave his thumbs up to the Carimi acquisition, and that Tice tossed aside his best lineman from last season, and that Tice has insisted he could get more out of this line than he has gotten.

 

It should not have taken as long as it has taken for the offensive line to get fixed. And it should not take very long in the future to fix it. If it does take time, heads must role. This is a fixable and addressable issue if the Bears finally decide to actually address it with competent decision makers at the control

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There is no quick solution and that is the answer no one wants to accept.

I'm not really sure what the point of this comment is. Does Biggs want to take the role of the "you have to accept reality" Cubs writer who basks in the glory of a complete rebuild? The fact is that yes actually, talent overhauls can be done quite quickly by competent NFL personel men and coaches. The Bears have enough talent right now to be 7-3, so they are not completely devoid of talent. There are quick fixes to patch the problem, if not completely solve it. Schemes can be designed weak to weak to take advantage of opponents and at least partially offset your own issues. If SF can scheme an offense with a backup QB to completely dominate the Bears defense, despite being a poor pass blocking team themselves, then it can be done. Lovie is to be blamed for the offense in so far as he preached defense, special teams and running the ball above passing for so long. And he is to be blamed for his own poor decisions in drafts when he got more power after the super bowl. And he is to be blamed for the coaching deficit they have on the offensive side. But that doesn't negate the fact that Tice is the GD offensive coordinator, and that Tice gave his thumbs up to the Carimi acquisition, and that Tice tossed aside his best lineman from last season, and that Tice has insisted he could get more out of this line than he has gotten.

 

It should not have taken as long as it has taken for the offensive line to get fixed. And it should not take very long in the future to fix it. If it does take time, heads must role. This is a fixable and addressable issue if the Bears finally decide to actually address it with competent decision makers at the control

 

I agree, however it is not fixable quickly if Lovie is to remain as Head Coach. He has not proven that he can adjust and hire competent position coaches let alone quality OCs. Lovie is also a horrible talent evaluator and every time he hand picks a player to play his scheme, that player fails. I think for this organization to take that next step and embrace 2012 big boy offense, Lovie Smith must go. It doesn't help that Emery had a questionable draft his first time around. Outside of Jeffrey, I've been disappointed with the draft selections.

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