Lance Armstrong to be stripped of Tour de France titles

[illiniguy]

Just say you don't want to talk about the past and become a coach. Edited October 11, 2012 by illiniguy

[DivineBovine]

Just say you dontwanttotalk bout the past and become a coach.

 

 

Lance can claim he was better because of technique. The way he spun the wheels on his bike.

[wvcbxl]

The local version of The Onion is having a field day.

The headline reads "Armstriong denies ever participating in the Tour" http://de.rechtzetting.be/2012/10/11/armstrong-ontkent-tour-te-hebben-gereden/

 

:lol:

[XZero771679666304]

The whole thing is kind of funny.

 

Besides, isn't cycling the most doped up sport on earth?

[Soul]

Nike just bailed. Armstrong has stepped down as chair of Livestrong:

 

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fiw-lance-armstrong-livestrong-nike-20121017,0,1252155.story

[XZero771679666304]

Like others, I am greatly amused by UCI president Pat McQuaid's "Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling" statement yesterday. I have no real problem with Lance being stripped of his titles, but the pretense is amazing. Instead of using it as a wake-up call to clean up the sport, he seems content to play like cycling isn't more doped up than the WWE and that Armstrong is some kind of lone villain who sullied the sport.

 

On Mike and Mike this morning, Greenberg said that of the 21 cyclists who finished 2-4 in the 7 years Lance won the Tour de France, 20 have been linked to doping. That's probably the reason no "winners" will be named in Armstrong's place, and an indictment of the sport in general.

[SouthSideRyan]

I think the apt comparison is more doped up than the NFL. WWE's policy has more meat behind it than theirs.

[Tracer Bullet]

Reminds me of the 100 meter dash photo with Johnson and Lewis where all but 2 runners had been linked to doping.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think the apt comparison is more doped up than the NFL. WWE's policy has more meat behind it than theirs.

 

Is that policy you have to be on roids or you're out?

[SouthSideRyan]

I think the apt comparison is more doped up than the NFL. WWE's policy has more meat behind it than theirs.

 

Is that policy you have to be on roids or you're out?

 

That's the NFL's

[illiniguy]

Yeah with Linda McMahon running for Senate the WWE has a very strict policy in place. That isn't to say some names just don't get selected to be tested though.

[Soul]

Like others, I am greatly amused by UCI president Pat McQuaid's "Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling" statement yesterday. I have no real problem with Lance being stripped of his titles, but the pretense is amazing. Instead of using it as a wake-up call to clean up the sport, he seems content to play like cycling isn't more doped up than the WWE and that Armstrong is some kind of lone villain who sullied the sport.

 

On Mike and Mike this morning, Greenberg said that of the 21 cyclists who finished 2-4 in the 7 years Lance won the Tour de France, 20 have been linked to doping. That's probably the reason no "winners" will be named in Armstrong's place, and an indictment of the sport in general.

 

Well, the sport is one big chemlab. So yes, that's the exact reason.

[seanimal]

i think it's difficult to for me to really feel like lance armstrong is ultimately an illegitimate champion when the playing field was actually pretty level. i mean, yeah, he broke the rules, so i guess that's it, but still. perhaps that's too relativistic, but it worked for einstein so whatevs

[Banedon]

i think it's difficult to for me to really feel like lance armstrong is ultimately an illegitimate champion when the playing field was actually pretty level. i mean, yeah, he broke the rules, so i guess that's it, but still. perhaps that's too relativistic, but it worked for einstein so whatevs

 

He was the one largely responsible for a lot of that thought. He wasn't just doping himself, but set up a whole system for cheating throughout the sport. So ultimately, he damaged the sport in a much more significant way than just doping himself.

[TruffleShuffle]

i think it's difficult to for me to really feel like lance armstrong is ultimately an illegitimate champion when the playing field was actually pretty level. i mean, yeah, he broke the rules, so i guess that's it, but still. perhaps that's too relativistic, but it worked for einstein so whatevs

 

He was the one largely responsible for a lot of that thought. He wasn't just doping himself, but set up a whole system for cheating throughout the sport. So ultimately, he damaged the sport in a much more significant way than just doping himself.

 

that's not really true. one entire team (festina) was caught cheating in 1998 before armstrong even came back to cycling, and a number of other finishers were very likely doping (the top four finishers were either accused of doping or caught doping later in the their careers). armstrong certainly didn't help matters, but it's more accurate to say that he continued and probably expanded on something that was already rampant throughout the sport.

[seanimal]

i think it's difficult to for me to really feel like lance armstrong is ultimately an illegitimate champion when the playing field was actually pretty level. i mean, yeah, he broke the rules, so i guess that's it, but still. perhaps that's too relativistic, but it worked for einstein so whatevs

 

He was the one largely responsible for a lot of that thought. He wasn't just doping himself, but set up a whole system for cheating throughout the sport. So ultimately, he damaged the sport in a much more significant way than just doping himself.

 

that's not really true. one entire team (festina) was caught cheating in 1998 before armstrong even came back to cycling, and a number of other finishers were very likely doping (the top four finishers were either accused of doping or caught doping later in the their careers). armstrong certainly didn't help matters, but it's more accurate to say that he continued and probably expanded on something that was already rampant throughout the sport.

 

yeah, there certainly seems to be some consensus on the idea that he took it to another level or at the very least became the cutting edge of performance enhancement.

 

i think it's just probably time we admit that this is something that probably goes on in any sport where the financial incentives and the culture exist.

[XZero771679666304]

 

i think it's just probably time we admit that this is something that probably goes on in any sport where the financial incentives and the culture exist.

 

 

I think that if people are being honest with themselves, they know it. I don't even care; I just assume athletes/competitors are going to take advantages where they can find them.

 

But it was McQuaid's righteous indignation toward Armstrong that struck me a being particularly pretentious. If you're going to ignore it, ignore it. If you're going to crack down on it, by all means try in futility. But to pretend Lance and Team USPS were some sort of rogue entity just makes the sport look like more of a joke than if the whole thing had been overlooked.

[wvcbxl]

The UCI are a bunch of hypocrites in this whole affair. They knew all along what was going on but turned a blind eye because it raised interest in the sport in pzrts of the world that hadn't been so involved before. They even assisted in silencing those individuals that did speak out at the time, like Christophe Brassons in 1999, a professional cyclist who wrote a critical column in Le Parisien after Armstrong's stage victory in Sestrière that ultimately cost him his career.

[mul21]

Total dick move, but I was amused:

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/the-turnstile/lance-armstrong-just-happens-pose-next-tour-france-190124213.html;_ylt=AvpucxghwyP.taH5F7Bp_Fer9HQA;_ylu=X3oDMTIzaGF2MnZwBG1pdANIQ01PTCBvbiBhcnRpY2xlIHJpZ2h0IHJhaWwEcGtnA2lkLTI4MjgzNTkEcG9zAzIEc2VjA2hjbQR2ZXIDMTA-;_ylg=X3oDMTMwMTY0YTUwBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZDA4MDBkNzgtYjFiYy0zMjY5LWJhMzktOWQxZmU4YmI3MmJkBHBzdGNhdANlbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=3

[Banedon]

Total dick move, but I was amused:

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/the-turnstile/lance-armstrong-just-happens-pose-next-tour-france-190124213.html;_ylt=AvpucxghwyP.taH5F7Bp_Fer9HQA;_ylu=X3oDMTIzaGF2MnZwBG1pdANIQ01PTCBvbiBhcnRpY2xlIHJpZ2h0IHJhaWwEcGtnA2lkLTI4MjgzNTkEcG9zAzIEc2VjA2hjbQR2ZXIDMTA-;_ylg=X3oDMTMwMTY0YTUwBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZDA4MDBkNzgtYjFiYy0zMjY5LWJhMzktOWQxZmU4YmI3MmJkBHBzdGNhdANlbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=3

 

Haha...what an ass.

[ctcf]

This fuckin guy

[Cubswin11]

I support the trolling efforts of Armstrong moving forward =D>