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What is half try? I wouldn't define any of those examples as franchises that "half tried" More varying degress of bad-awful management/ownership

 

The half-tried are anyone that doesn't fit the pro-tanking case, and the ones with a plan are the ones who did.

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What is half try? I wouldn't define any of those examples as franchises that "half tried" More varying degress of bad-awful management/ownership

 

I would say that those two things have a lot to do with each other.

 

I'm not even saying teams need to full on tank, but when you find yourself in a position where you're heading into a year (or couple years) where competition looks like a real long shot you might be better served by looking to make the team a couple years down the road a lot better, as opposed to trying to keep the coming year's team simply palatable. Doing both isn't always an option, especially when you have limited resources.

 

Milwaukee isn't going to win in the next year or two. The don't have enough big league talent, they don't have the money to get impact talent, and they have no impact players in the pipeline. What they do have is two guys they can turn into young, MLB ready talent, and a few they can parlay into role players and lottery tickets. Or they can hold on to them, maybe win ~75 games this year and next, and then get nothing or next to nothing.

 

I mean, is there really a choice there? This isn't the 2012-14 Cubs where there was (probably) a lot of money left unspent. Teams with resources and smart management can make the "let's maximize every season" model sustainable and effective. But smaller market teams, even the smart ones (Rays and A's, for example) have to be willing to give up on a season here and there. If the Brewers wait until late next year to do anything, their path to being good again gets longer.

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I'd say the Rays are the model on how to not ever giving up on competing even with a payroll of pennies. Now the Brewers aren't in their position, but I don't see a lot separating the current Brewers from the A's as they entered 2011.
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I'd say the Rays are the model on how to not ever giving up on competing even with a payroll of pennies. Now the Brewers aren't in their position, but I don't see a lot separating the current Brewers from the A's as they entered 2011.

 

Billy Beane is a wizard

 

I'm pretty sure he's going to end up with some 7 WAR superstar out of that trade with the White Sox just because

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I'd say the Rays are the model on how to not ever giving up on competing even with a payroll of pennies. Now the Brewers aren't in their position, but I don't see a lot separating the current Brewers from the A's as they entered 2011.

 

Billy Beane is a wizard

 

I'm pretty sure he's going to end up with some 7 WAR superstar out of that trade with the White Sox just because

 

8/24/11

Yea, I'm honestly not all that interested in Beane at this point.

 

 

It's kind of amazing what he's done. He just kinda wandered around for a few years, and now just rebuilds his team on a yearly basis. It's remarkable.

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I'd say the Rays are the model on how to not ever giving up on competing even with a payroll of pennies. Now the Brewers aren't in their position, but I don't see a lot separating the current Brewers from the A's as they entered 2011.

 

Billy Beane is a wizard

 

I'm pretty sure he's going to end up with some 7 WAR superstar out of that trade with the White Sox just because

 

8/24/11

Yea, I'm honestly not all that interested in Beane at this point.

 

 

It's kind of amazing what he's done. He just kinda wandered around for a few years, and now just rebuilds his team on a yearly basis. It's remarkable.

 

yeah, it's incredible.

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the current MLB leader in WAR is somebody Beane acquired (from Andrew Friedman) with Cash Considerations

 

lol. He had 1.4 over 468 PAs heading into this season. 1.9 in 93 now.

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the current MLB leader in WAR is somebody Beane acquired (from Andrew Friedman) with Cash Considerations

 

lol. He had 1.4 over 468 PAs heading into this season. 1.9 in 93 now.

also started out hot last year (.920 OPS in first half - 34 G) before tailing off (.637 in 2nd half - 50 G), but that may have been largely attributable to a lingering foot injury that kept him unable to play C

 

will be really interesting to see how his season plays out

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the current MLB leader in WAR is somebody Beane acquired (from Andrew Friedman) with Cash Considerations

 

lol. He had 1.4 over 468 PAs heading into this season. 1.9 in 93 now.

also started out hot last year (.920 OPS in first half - 34 G) before tailing off (.637 in 2nd half - 50 G), but that may have been largely attributable to a lingering foot injury that kept him unable to play C

 

will be really interesting to see how his season plays out

 

yeah, he was pretty hurt for like the last three months last year but played through it and put off surgery until after the season. i like him a lot.

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To get a feel for just how hard Stanton hit his line drives, consider this: exactly 1.64% of MLB liners were hit at 105 MPH or higher last season; 30.1% (22 of 73) of Stanton’s were.
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Compared to other Aprils in baseball history, this latest one gave us:

 

• The greatest strikeout-to-walk rate ever (2.52).

• The lowest WHIP since 1972 (1.283).

• The fewest hits per game since 1972 (8.44 per team).

• The worst on-base percentage since 1981 (.315).

• The worst OPS since 1992 (.705).

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The Mariners gave up 14 home runs in 22 games in April. They gave up 15 home runs in their first 5 games in May.
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Can someone explain to me what I'm missing on the Red Sox? It seems like most of the projection systems and and prognosticators are really high on this team and I just don't get it. Is this just the boring East Coast/Red Sox bias? They have a good but far from spectacular rotation with no depth, "headlined" by a guy who won't throw 200 IP and currently depending on Justin Masterson to work out as a fifth starter. Napoli, HanRam and Victorino (and probably Buchholz) are injury risks and Pedroia is on the wrong side of 30 and declining the last few years. Seriously what am I missing?

 

Feeling better about this post right now.

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Not too sure about back-patting about a 13-15 start.

 

haha fair. I just laugh every time I look at their pitching stats.

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