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Thats kinda exactly what we are doing. We just havent made the trades yet.

 

And also we're terrible at it, and they're good at it, and we're hoping and praying on a generation of elite top-round picks to save us.

 

We're also like a decade behind them in the process, and I don't think we're hoping and praying for a generation of top round picks to save us. I think we're planning on trading some of them away (aka "savvy trades") to supplement our needs at the MLB level, and then use mid-tier and maybe a high profile free agent or two to fill in some other holes. Then all of the lower round picks that actually turn into something decent fill any remaining holes.

 

That's exactly the same thing.

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Thats kinda exactly what we are doing. We just havent made the trades yet.

 

And also we're terrible at it, and they're good at it, and we're hoping and praying on a generation of elite top-round picks to save us.

 

We're also like a decade behind them in the process, and I don't think we're hoping and praying for a generation of top round picks to save us. I think we're planning on trading some of them away (aka "savvy trades") to supplement our needs at the MLB level, and then use mid-tier and maybe a high profile free agent or two to fill in some other holes. Then all of the lower round picks that actually turn into something decent fill any remaining holes.

 

That's exactly the same thing.

 

We need the top round prospects to show enough to be attractive to other teams in order to make "savvy trades". Also, more teams are locking up their younger players which takes them off the market. Finally signing a high-profile FA (or 2) is difficult when you have a reputation as a losing team and the big market teams (with winning reputations) willing to pay anything to acquire the player they want.

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Just perusing the box scores tonight, holy hell the Rockies lineup has put up insane numbers. They have some guys with crazy triple slash lines.

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/col/cat/OPS/colorado-rockies

 

Incredible. Wouldn't expect CarGo to be one of the worst.

Yeah I haven't even heard of some of those guys Blackmon? Dickerson? They lead the league in OPS at .825 the second place team, White Sox (.775), is as close to them as they are to the 10th team (Texas at .725).

 

Their team BABIP is .329, they are in the bottom 1/3 of the league in k% (23rd) and bb% (28th) so they are putting the ball in play a [expletive] load and when they put it in play it's a lot of GB it appears. 50% gb% (2nd in the league), fb% is only 29%, 27th in the league and ld% is 20%, 17th in the league. Though when they do get it in the air their HR/FB% is 15% (2nd in the league). I would say there's some regression coming.

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Wonder where the White Sox offense will be when Flowers, Ramirez and Viciedo aren't still hitting .350. All three are waaaayyyy over where they should be.
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Thats kinda exactly what we are doing. We just havent made the trades yet.

 

And also we're terrible at it, and they're good at it, and we're hoping and praying on a generation of elite top-round picks to save us.

 

We're also like a decade behind them in the process, and I don't think we're hoping and praying for a generation of top round picks to save us. I think we're planning on trading some of them away (aka "savvy trades") to supplement our needs at the MLB level, and then use mid-tier and maybe a high profile free agent or two to fill in some other holes. Then all of the lower round picks that actually turn into something decent fill any remaining holes.

 

That's exactly the same thing.

 

We need the top round prospects to show enough to be attractive to other teams in order to make "savvy trades". Also, more teams are locking up their younger players which takes them off the market. Finally signing a high-profile FA (or 2) is difficult when you have a reputation as a losing team and the big market teams (with winning reputations) willing to pay anything to acquire the player they want.

 

It will not be difficult to sign free agents. The prospects will perform, long enough to trade them anyway.

 

Tanaka, the Uptons, darvish, ellsbury, puig, jose abreu, anthony rizzo, andrew cashner, wil meyers, travis wood

 

I am missing a lot because i dont pay attention enough anymore, but theres some of the young impact talent that has been available either as a free agent or trade in the last two seasons. Teams locking their players up young isnt much of an issue. Half of the board wants to trade Castro and we just got through locking him up while he was young.

 

In less words, youre being silly.

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Thats kinda exactly what we are doing. We just havent made the trades yet.

 

And also we're terrible at it, and they're good at it, and we're hoping and praying on a generation of elite top-round picks to save us.

 

We're also like a decade behind them in the process, and I don't think we're hoping and praying for a generation of top round picks to save us. I think we're planning on trading some of them away (aka "savvy trades") to supplement our needs at the MLB level, and then use mid-tier and maybe a high profile free agent or two to fill in some other holes. Then all of the lower round picks that actually turn into something decent fill any remaining holes.

 

That's exactly the same thing.

 

We need the top round prospects to show enough to be attractive to other teams in order to make "savvy trades". Also, more teams are locking up their younger players which takes them off the market. Finally signing a high-profile FA (or 2) is difficult when you have a reputation as a losing team and the big market teams (with winning reputations) willing to pay anything to acquire the player they want.

 

It will not be difficult to sign free agents. The prospects will perform, long enough to trade them anyway.

 

Tanaka, the Uptons, darvish, ellsbury, puig, jose abreu, anthony rizzo, andrew cashner, wil meyers, travis wood

 

I am missing a lot because i dont pay attention enough anymore, but theres some of the young impact talent that has been available either as a free agent or trade in the last two seasons. Teams locking their players up young isnt much of an issue. Half of the board wants to trade Castro and we just got through locking him up while he was young.

 

In less words, youre being silly.

 

See the discussion in the other forum (Cubs Discussions) about there's no plan B.

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It will not be difficult to sign free agents. The prospects will perform, long enough to trade them anyway.

 

Well okay then.

 

 

By the way, that was sarcastic because your post was delusional.

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It will not be difficult to sign free agents. The prospects will perform, long enough to trade them anyway.

 

Well okay then.

 

 

By the way, that was sarcastic because your post was delusional.

 

Thinking that it will somehow be difficult to sign a free agent is pretty god damn delusional, and all of our top 5 prospects plus our number one pick in june could suddenly die and we'd still have pieces to make a trade. You guys are worrying about nothing.

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It will not be difficult to sign free agents. The prospects will perform, long enough to trade them anyway.

 

Well okay then.

 

 

By the way, that was sarcastic because your post was delusional.

 

Thinking that it will somehow be difficult to sign a free agent is pretty [expletive] delusional, and all of our top 5 prospects plus our number one pick in june could suddenly die and we'd still have pieces to make a trade. You guys are worrying about nothing.[/quote

 

You must be trolling because your posts have gone beyond rationality.

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That's stupid. The only thing irrational here is the thought that one of the larger market teams in the league will be unable to sign a good free agent.
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That's stupid. The only thing irrational here is the thought that one of the larger market teams in the league will be unable to sign a good free agent.

 

Well, that would be a completely logical train of thought if the Cubs were actually acting like a big market team and not the Rays.

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That's stupid. The only thing irrational here is the thought that one of the larger market teams in the league will be unable to sign a good free agent.

 

Are you just assuming there are not other big market teams, owned by aggressive owners that have consistently show the willingness to spend, even "overspend", on free agents?

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We're closer to the Mariners than the Rays in terms of payroll and they just did get finished signing Robinson Cano. Our payroll limitations won't last forever.

 

 

edit: and they signed Robinson Cano from the Yankees, one of those evil free spending teams, and did so after a 90+ loss season and an 87 loss season in 2012.

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We're closer to the Mariners than the Rays in terms of payroll and they just did get finished signing Robinson Cano. Our payroll limitations won't last forever.

 

 

edit: and they signed Robinson Cano from the Yankees, one of those evil free spending teams, and did so after a 90+ loss season and an 87 loss season in 2012.

It's almost as if you were in a cave for the last four years.

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We're closer to the Mariners than the Rays in terms of payroll and they just did get finished signing Robinson Cano. Our payroll limitations won't last forever.

 

 

edit: and they signed Robinson Cano from the Yankees, one of those evil free spending teams, and did so after a 90+ loss season and an 87 loss season in 2012.

 

so the fact that another financially strong team signed a free agent from another team that signs a ton of free agents makes you think it supports your idea that it will be easy for the Cubs to sign free agents?

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We're closer to the Mariners than the Rays in terms of payroll and they just did get finished signing Robinson Cano. Our payroll limitations won't last forever.

 

 

edit: and they signed Robinson Cano from the Yankees, one of those evil free spending teams, and did so after a 90+ loss season and an 87 loss season in 2012.

 

so the fact that another financially strong team signed a free agent from another team that signs a ton of free agents makes you think it supports your idea that it will be easy for the Cubs to sign free agents?

 

No, the fact that you think it isnt possible makes me think your doom boner is so big that it blocks your view of reality. We will have the money to sign free agents, we will have the need to sign free agents, we will sign free agents. I am sorry that you guys are so wrong, it breaks my heart.

 

$300 bet that the cubs have signed at least one high profile free agent and made two trades that bring impact talent to the major league team before opening day of 2016?

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So out of money, need and ability, which one was the reason we signed no big free agents last year?

 

Lack of desire with some lack of money sprinkled on top.

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We're closer to the Mariners than the Rays in terms of payroll and they just did get finished signing Robinson Cano. Our payroll limitations won't last forever.

 

 

edit: and they signed Robinson Cano from the Yankees, one of those evil free spending teams, and did so after a 90+ loss season and an 87 loss season in 2012.

 

so the fact that another financially strong team signed a free agent from another team that signs a ton of free agents makes you think it supports your idea that it will be easy for the Cubs to sign free agents?

 

No, the fact that you think it isnt possible makes me think your doom boner is so big that it blocks your view of reality. We will have the money to sign free agents, we will have the need to sign free agents, we will sign free agents. I am sorry that you guys are so wrong, it breaks my heart.

 

$300 bet that the cubs have signed at least one high profile free agent and made two trades that bring impact talent to the major league team before opening day of 2016?

 

Keep changing your story. You said it will be easy to sign free agents. I never said it will be impossible to sign any free agent.

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So out of money, need and ability, which one was the reason we signed no big free agents last year?

 

Lack of desire with some lack of money sprinkled on top.

 

So why aren't those going to continue?

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