Stewart's Crappy Luck

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

It doesn't help that Tyler Colvin is playing well for the Rockies right now either. This trade is looking to be very bad one.

 

That's like thinking the Garza trade was a mistake at the start of last season because of the hot start that Fuld got off to.

 

Except Sam Fuld might still be in the majors in 3 years.

 

He isn't even in the majors right now.

[SouthSideRyan]

It doesn't help that Tyler Colvin is playing well for the Rockies right now either. This trade is looking to be very bad one.

 

That's like thinking the Garza trade was a mistake at the start of last season because of the hot start that Fuld got off to.

 

Except Sam Fuld might still be in the majors in 3 years.

 

He isn't even in the majors right now.

 

Yeah, they'll probably have to remove his hand.

[Hawk4Hall]

It doesn't help that Tyler Colvin is playing well for the Rockies right now either. This trade is looking to be very bad one.

 

That's like thinking the Garza trade was a mistake at the start of last season because of the hot start that Fuld got off to.

Except Garza has actually had a decent MLB career and has upside. Ian Stewart played in Colorado and was a pretty ineffective baseball player.

 

I'm not saying Colvin is a God or anything, just at this point this trade looks bad. I was never unhappy with the Garza deal anyway so I am not comparing the two deals.

[javy knows my name]

ITT: Idiots hate Ian Stewart

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

 

Yeah, they'll probably have to remove his hand.

 

Real thing or a diabetes joke?

 

Edit: Or surgery...on his wrist...that's usually a good thing if you want to be in the majors in 3 years.

Edited May 28, 2012 by PriortoTheoIhadWood

[Sammy Sofa]

It doesn't help that Tyler Colvin is playing well for the Rockies right now either. This trade is looking to be very bad one.

 

That's like thinking the Garza trade was a mistake at the start of last season because of the hot start that Fuld got off to.

Except Garza has actually had a decent MLB career and has upside. Ian Stewart played in Colorado and was a pretty ineffective baseball player.

 

I'm not saying Colvin is a God or anything, just at this point this trade looks bad. I was never unhappy with the Garza deal anyway so I am not comparing the two deals.

 

The point of the Stewart trade is his upside.

[javy knows my name]

It doesn't help that Tyler Colvin is playing well for the Rockies right now either. This trade is looking to be very bad one.

 

That's like thinking the Garza trade was a mistake at the start of last season because of the hot start that Fuld got off to.

Except Garza has actually had a decent MLB career and has upside. Ian Stewart played in Colorado and was a pretty ineffective baseball player.

 

I'm not saying Colvin is a God or anything, just at this point this trade looks bad. I was never unhappy with the Garza deal anyway so I am not comparing the two deals.

 

The point of the Stewart trade is his upside.

 

The point of the Colvin trade is that there is literally nobody you regret trading Colvin for.

[Rob]

Colvin: 3.2 BB%, 28.7 K%, 15.8 HR/FB%

Stewart: 10.1 BB%, 19.0 K%, 13.3 HR/FB%

 

Stewart is playing much better than Colvin even before you factor in defensive value. The only reason Colvin's numbers look even superficially better is his completely and utterly unsustainable .393 BABIP (compared to Stewart's .217 figure).

 

This trade didn't look bad to begin with, and it's looking better since the start of this season. It only looks worse if you aren't paying attention.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Colvin: 3.2 BB%, 28.7 K%, 15.8 HR/FB%

Stewart: 10.1 BB%, 19.0 K%, 13.3 HR/FB%

 

Stewart is playing much better than Colvin even before you factor in defensive value. The only reason Colvin's numbers look even superficially better is his completely and utterly unsustainable .393 BABIP (compared to Stewart's .217 figure).

 

This trade didn't look bad to begin with, and it's looking better since the start of this season. It only looks worse if you aren't paying attention.

 

This.

 

Look, I understand if people don't want to take the time to learn about peripherals. But even then, you shouldn't be worried about trading Tyler Colvin after 100 good PAs.

[davell]

If Kyle can come around on Stewart, anyone can. This has been this board's most underrated story of the season.

[KaiserCesar]

To be fair on the Colvin vs Stewart front, Colvin has a LD% of 28% while Stewart has 18%. Limited plate appearances for Colvin, but he's done some things well while his BB and K rates are worse than his 2010 season.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If Kyle can come around on Stewart, anyone can. This has been this board's most underrated story of the season.

 

The stats say what they say. He's regained a respectable amount of power and cut his K% down from nearly 30% to 19%. That's real improvement.

[davell]

If Kyle can come around on Stewart, anyone can. This has been this board's most underrated story of the season.

 

The stats say what they say. He's regained a respectable amount of power and cut his K% down from nearly 30% to 19%. That's real improvement.

Oh, I know you're reasonable. Just wish everyone in the thread was.

[Tracer Bullet]

If Kyle can come around on Stewart, anyone can. This has been this board's most underrated story of the season.

 

The stats say what they say. He's regained a respectable amount of power and cut his K% down from nearly 30% to 19%. That's real improvement.

Oh, I know you're reasonable. Just wish everyone in the thread was.

 

being reasonable now, of course, doesn't mean he was being reasonable about stewart before.

 

as is almost always the case, in TT we trust.

[sneakypower]

man, i really miss Tyler Colvin's .204 OBP

[Hawk4Hall]

More bad luck for Stewart?

[Guest]

Stewart is hitting .247/.356/.442/.797 in 90 PAs since his OPS bottomed out on April 30. For reference, there are 6 3B with an OPS above that .797 out of the 28 that have regular playing time. He's doing just fine.

[mul21]

Stewart is hitting .247/.356/.442/.797 in 90 PAs since his OPS bottomed out on April 30. For reference, there are 6 3B with an OPS above that .797 out of the 28 that have regular playing time. He's doing just fine.

 

Yep, if he can sustain an .800ish OPS, that trade looks way better than it already did. Colvin didn't have anywhere to play this year and we didn't have any viable options at 3B after Ramirez left. It really is strange trying to readjust your thinking to the "new" offensive environment we're in right now.

[SouthSideRyan]

Ian Stewart has a higher bWAR than Tyler Colvin.

[Sammy Sofa]

At some point I guess you just have to accept that guys like this simply are not going to see/hear the reality of how Stewart's season is going. They're only going to look at the BA and they're only going to remember the last game where he went 0-for-whatever and that's all the "proof" they need.

[CubColtPacer]

Stewart's peripherals have started to slip. He still should be better than he has been so far with some better luck, but there are starting to be some worrisome signs. I'm not sure at this point whether whatever swing change they made to reduce his strikeouts was worth it because of how many ground balls it's caused him to hit.

[Sammy Sofa]

Stewart's peripherals have started to slip. He still should be better than he has been so far with some better luck, but there are starting to be some worrisome signs. I'm not sure at this point whether whatever swing change they made to reduce his strikeouts was worth it because of how many ground balls it's caused him to hit.

 

How much could the nagging wrist issues be playing into it?

[CubColtPacer]

Stewart's peripherals have started to slip. He still should be better than he has been so far with some better luck, but there are starting to be some worrisome signs. I'm not sure at this point whether whatever swing change they made to reduce his strikeouts was worth it because of how many ground balls it's caused him to hit.

 

How much could the nagging wrist issues be playing into it?

 

It's hard to say, but that's a problem that's not likely to go away anytime soon. So even if could be blamed on the wrist, that's still a big red flag issue for the Cubs keeping him going forward.

[Sammy Sofa]

Stewart's peripherals have started to slip. He still should be better than he has been so far with some better luck, but there are starting to be some worrisome signs. I'm not sure at this point whether whatever swing change they made to reduce his strikeouts was worth it because of how many ground balls it's caused him to hit.

 

How much could the nagging wrist issues be playing into it?

 

It's hard to say, but that's a problem that's not likely to go away anytime soon. So even if could be blamed on the wrist, that's still a big red flag issue for the Cubs keeping him going forward.

 

This is true.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

BABIP .227

K% 22%

BB% 10.2%

HR/FB%: 15.7

GB/FB%: 56.6% (vs. 39.9% career)

LD%: 15.6%

 

The line drive percentage has cooled off significantly, but he should still be getting better results from this. The sharp increase in ground balls isn't ideal, but it should be netting him a lot more singles and BABIP.