Re: College Basketball 2012-2013

[sneakypower]

Caris Levert is supposed to decide today. Apparently Iowa and Purdue are out of the running and it's down to Michigan and Dayton. Apparently Iowa and Purdue never did offer him a scholarship.

he's blue.

[CubColtPacer]

Hiring somebody for recruiting contacts is different than hiring the AAU coach of a top player in order to secure him.

 

If it were just about Anya, I completely agree with you. As Exile said though, I don't know if it is all about Anya. It could be because Crean liked what he did with Creek and Oladipo. It could be just his general contacts in the region. I would certainly hope Crean wouldn't give out something as important as an assistant coach primarily for one player. Even putting aside the ethics question, Crean doesn't need to do things like that to recruit players.

 

As for the Roth situation, I'm pretty sure that you don't get approval for an injury waiver until after your senior year, no matter when the injury occurred. So Roth didn't count in regards to the oversign. I feel bad for him, because he's done everything asked of him. But a 5th year on scholarship would just be a bonus, not a guarantee. I hope he gets to play somewhere next year, whether it's for Indiana as a walk on (not likely) or somewhere else.

[SouthSideRyan]

Oh and how does a guy finish undergrad and a masters while playing Big Ten basketball?

[Smack]

Oh and how does a guy finish undergrad and a masters while playing Big Ten basketball?

 

More importantly, why did Crean tell Roth that he reminded him of Dwyane Wade?

[Guest]

Oh and how does a guy finish undergrad and a masters while playing Big Ten basketball?

 

5 years or 4 years?

[Exile on Waveland]

Oh and how does a guy finish undergrad and a masters while playing Big Ten basketball?

 

Players graduating in three years is not that unusual any more. I know Duke tries to offer this option to players since at least Jay Williams (who also graduated in three years). Students can enroll in college already having multiple college credits via AP programs, can take full summer loads, and during the season players are afforded study time with tutors. As for requirements, I believe athletes are generally granted preferance in enrollment at most schools. And then many graduate programs are only about one year in length.

 

As for Matt Roth: "Roth earned an undergraduate degree in communications in three years. He then crammed 12 classes into two semesters and a summer and earned a master's in sports administration management" (http://www.indystar.com/article/20120507/SPORTS0601/205070332/IU-basketball-Matt-Roth-limbo-lack-scholarships-available). He is evidently pretty intelligent, having been named Academic All-Big Ten. And neither communications (hey, I have a journalism degree, so I'm not one to talk) nor sports administration management are ultra-demanding.

 

Further, evidently Oladipo is on-track to graduate in three years. Zeller is at least on that track too (though next year is likely his last at IU, regardless). This is a good thing, by the way.

[rawaction]

Hiring somebody for recruiting contacts is different than hiring the AAU coach of a top player in order to secure him.

 

If it were just about Anya, I completely agree with you. As Exile said though, I don't know if it is all about Anya. It could be because Crean liked what he did with Creek and Oladipo. It could be just his general contacts in the region. I would certainly hope Crean wouldn't give out something as important as an assistant coach primarily for one player. Even putting aside the ethics question, Crean doesn't need to do things like that to recruit players.

 

As for the Roth situation, I'm pretty sure that you don't get approval for an injury waiver until after your senior year, no matter when the injury occurred. So Roth didn't count in regards to the oversign. I feel bad for him, because he's done everything asked of him. But a 5th year on scholarship would just be a bonus, not a guarantee. I hope he gets to play somewhere next year, whether it's for Indiana as a walk on (not likely) or somewhere else.

 

Wait, what is the Roth situation?

[SouthSideRyan]

Hiring somebody for recruiting contacts is different than hiring the AAU coach of a top player in order to secure him.

 

If it were just about Anya, I completely agree with you. As Exile said though, I don't know if it is all about Anya. It could be because Crean liked what he did with Creek and Oladipo. It could be just his general contacts in the region. I would certainly hope Crean wouldn't give out something as important as an assistant coach primarily for one player. Even putting aside the ethics question, Crean doesn't need to do things like that to recruit players.

 

As for the Roth situation, I'm pretty sure that you don't get approval for an injury waiver until after your senior year, no matter when the injury occurred. So Roth didn't count in regards to the oversign. I feel bad for him, because he's done everything asked of him. But a 5th year on scholarship would just be a bonus, not a guarantee. I hope he gets to play somewhere next year, whether it's for Indiana as a walk on (not likely) or somewhere else.

 

Wait, what is the Roth situation?

 

He's joining Robin Ventura's coaching staff

[Exile on Waveland]

Hiring somebody for recruiting contacts is different than hiring the AAU coach of a top player in order to secure him.

 

If it were just about Anya, I completely agree with you. As Exile said though, I don't know if it is all about Anya. It could be because Crean liked what he did with Creek and Oladipo. It could be just his general contacts in the region. I would certainly hope Crean wouldn't give out something as important as an assistant coach primarily for one player. Even putting aside the ethics question, Crean doesn't need to do things like that to recruit players.

 

As for the Roth situation, I'm pretty sure that you don't get approval for an injury waiver until after your senior year, no matter when the injury occurred. So Roth didn't count in regards to the oversign. I feel bad for him, because he's done everything asked of him. But a 5th year on scholarship would just be a bonus, not a guarantee. I hope he gets to play somewhere next year, whether it's for Indiana as a walk on (not likely) or somewhere else.

 

Wait, what is the Roth situation?

 

He's "played" four years at IU, but only appeared in two games his sophomore season. Which means the granting of a fifth year of eligibility would be a formality. However, his scholarship time at IU is all but over because IU is already over-signed, not including Roth. So, while he could get a fifth year, it almost certainly won't be at IU.

[Smack]

Nic Moore is apparently transferring from Illinois State due to the coach going to SMU. I wouldn't mind him at Purdue.

[rawaction]

Hiring somebody for recruiting contacts is different than hiring the AAU coach of a top player in order to secure him.

 

If it were just about Anya, I completely agree with you. As Exile said though, I don't know if it is all about Anya. It could be because Crean liked what he did with Creek and Oladipo. It could be just his general contacts in the region. I would certainly hope Crean wouldn't give out something as important as an assistant coach primarily for one player. Even putting aside the ethics question, Crean doesn't need to do things like that to recruit players.

 

As for the Roth situation, I'm pretty sure that you don't get approval for an injury waiver until after your senior year, no matter when the injury occurred. So Roth didn't count in regards to the oversign. I feel bad for him, because he's done everything asked of him. But a 5th year on scholarship would just be a bonus, not a guarantee. I hope he gets to play somewhere next year, whether it's for Indiana as a walk on (not likely) or somewhere else.

 

Wait, what is the Roth situation?

 

He's joining Robin Ventura's coaching staff

 

:clapping:

[pitchcs]

Nic Moore is apparently transferring from Illinois State due to the coach going to SMU. I wouldn't mind him at Purdue.

 

 

That continues to suck for ISU, they could have been the favs in the MVC next year before Jankovich left.

 

I liked what I had seen out of Moore.

[Smack]

Nic Moore is apparently transferring from Illinois State due to the coach going to SMU. I wouldn't mind him at Purdue.

 

 

That continues to suck for ISU, they could have been the favs in the MVC next year before Jankovich left.

 

I liked what I had seen out of Moore.

 

Yeah, it seemed like they had some momentum, maybe it's just a rumor and he'll decide to stick around. Purdue already has a true PG and a couple combo guards to share the PG duties in 2013 so I'm not sure he would be a great fit for us. We really need another PG for 2012. I'd still love to have him. I like his game and scoring ability.

[Smack]

Caris Levert is supposed to decide today. Apparently Iowa and Purdue are out of the running and it's down to Michigan and Dayton. Apparently Iowa and Purdue never did offer him a scholarship.

he's blue.

 

Did you see something official? There is a Levert thread on the Purdue board I visit and people seem confused about the whole thing. Apparently Levert's camp was floating that he had offers from multiple schools and in fact many of them hadn't offered. It seems strange. Some people were speculating that maybe Michigan wasn't going to take him after all?

[sneakypower]

Sam Webb basically guaranteed it

[Smack]

Crandall Head to SMU apparently.

[pitchcs]

Crandall Head to SMU apparently.

 

 

Do you think he grew up dreaming to play for the Mustangs?

[snoodmonger]

Crandall Head to SMU apparently.

 

 

Do you think he grew up dreaming to play for the Mustangs?

 

 

Who knows, but I can see why he might want to play for Larry Brown.

[bukie]

Crandall Head to SMU apparently.

 

 

Do you think he grew up dreaming to play for the Mustangs?

 

 

Who knows, but I can see why he might want to play for Larry Brown.

It comes off like Head was always more into Jerrance Howard than Bruce Weber.

[Guest]

Crandall Head to SMU apparently.

 

 

Do you think he grew up dreaming to play for the Mustangs?

 

 

Who knows, but I can see why he might want to play for Larry Brown.

It comes off like Head was always more into Jerrance Howard than Bruce Weber.

I don't think that's surprising at all. I hope he does well under Brown.

 

BTW - I'm really kind of excited about Howard coaching under Brown to prime him as a future head coach at UI.

[Smack]

Julius Mays was all set to transfer to Purdue and start at PG next year and then Coach Cal stepped in. I can't wait for Kentucky to burn (again).

[Smack]

B1G / ACC Challenge matchups announced.

 

Minnesota at Florida State

North Carolina at Indiana

North Carolina State at Michigan

Maryland at Northwestern

Iowa at Virginia Tech

Nebraska at Wake Forest

Purdue at Clemson

Ohio State at Duke

Georgia Tech at Illinois

Michigan State at Miami

Boston College at Penn State

Virginia at Wisconsin

 

I like the B1G's chances again.

[rawaction]

B1G / ACC Challenge matchups announced.

 

Minnesota at Florida State

North Carolina at Indiana

North Carolina State at Michigan

Maryland at Northwestern

Iowa at Virginia Tech

Nebraska at Wake Forest

Purdue at Clemson

Ohio State at Duke

Georgia Tech at Illinois

Michigan State at Miami

Boston College at Penn State

Virginia at Wisconsin

 

I like the B1G's chances again.

 

DAMN. UNC. How do they determine these matchups? Do they try to evenly match them based on what the teams will be like that year, or based on the previous year? It's obviously not random.

[Smack]

B1G / ACC Challenge matchups announced.

 

Minnesota at Florida State

North Carolina at Indiana

North Carolina State at Michigan

Maryland at Northwestern

Iowa at Virginia Tech

Nebraska at Wake Forest

Purdue at Clemson

Ohio State at Duke

Georgia Tech at Illinois

Michigan State at Miami

Boston College at Penn State

Virginia at Wisconsin

 

I like the B1G's chances again.

 

DAMN. UNC. How do they determine these matchups? Do they try to evenly match them based on what the teams will be like that year, or based on the previous year? It's obviously not random.

 

I believe it's a little of both with no published 'formula'. UNC just lost most of their starters to the NBA didn't they? It should be a cake walk for the Hoo Hoo Hoosiers at the Hall of Calls. Probably won't even be within 10.

[SouthSideRyan]

B1G / ACC Challenge matchups announced.

 

Minnesota at Florida State

North Carolina at Indiana

North Carolina State at Michigan

Maryland at Northwestern

Iowa at Virginia Tech

Nebraska at Wake Forest

Purdue at Clemson

Ohio State at Duke

Georgia Tech at Illinois

Michigan State at Miami

Boston College at Penn State

Virginia at Wisconsin

 

I like the B1G's chances again.

 

DAMN. UNC. How do they determine these matchups? Do they try to evenly match them based on what the teams will be like that year, or based on the previous year? It's obviously not random.

 

I believe it's a little of both with no published 'formula'. UNC just lost most of their starters to the NBA didn't they? It should be a cake walk for the Hoo Hoo Hoosiers at the Hall of Calls. Probably won't even be within 10.

 

It'll be Gary Harris's coming out party.