Re: College Basketball 2012-2013

[Smack]

So apparently Purdue is really getting in on Caris Levert. The Purdue Rivals site interviewed his high school coach and he said Purdue has made it clear that there is an offer if he wants one. I guess he's a late bloomer. The fact that Michigan and Iowa are in on him is comforting if he does end up coming.

 

Now it looks like Purdue might be picking up Julius Mays a fifth year transfer from Wright St. (played only one year at Wright St. and played two years at NC State before that). He would add much needed guard depth and replace John Hart who transferred out. If this happens, and if we pick up Levert we could be looking at 7 new players on the roster next year. Yikes.

[Smack]

Illinois has a new transfer player.

 

http://www.carolinalive.com/sports/story.aspx?id=749437

[XZero771679666304]

Illinois has a new transfer player.

 

http://www.carolinalive.com/sports/story.aspx?id=749437

 

Not bad as a one year, post band-aid.

[SouthSideRyan]

McLaurin's tweet announcing it:

 

F*** it im going to Illinois. #illinination.

[Smack]

McLaurin's tweet announcing it:

 

F*** it im going to Illinois. #illinination.

 

haha, nice

[BleacherBadger]

http://stormingthefloor.net/post/22326658319/best-recruit-announcement-evar-not-often-you

[bukie]

McLaurin's tweet announcing it:

 

F*** it im going to Illinois. #illinination.

Maybe he was quoting Risky Business.

[Sosa21MVP]

The Indiana-Kentucky series is officially over now I guess. And apparently UK-UNC might be dead too? :-k

 

IU had been talking to Kansas about a series...wonder if that rumor has any legs?

[Smack]

The Indiana-Kentucky series is officially over now I guess. And apparently UK-UNC might be dead too? :-k

 

IU had been talking to Kansas about a series...wonder if that rumor has any legs?

 

Damn, two of the most loathsome fan bases in the country won't be able to continue their annual hate fest. I'll miss them taking turns calling each other toothless cheating hillbillies.

[illiniguy]

The Indiana-Kentucky series is officially over now I guess. And apparently UK-UNC might be dead too? :-k

 

IU had been talking to Kansas about a series...wonder if that rumor has any legs?

Damn that sucks. It was about to be a great game annually. Who killed that?

[Sosa21MVP]

The Indiana-Kentucky series is officially over now I guess. And apparently UK-UNC might be dead too? :-k

 

IU had been talking to Kansas about a series...wonder if that rumor has any legs?

Damn that sucks. It was about to be a great game annually. Who killed that?

 

The two sides could not agree on the terms of the series renewal (the game in Bloomington this past December was the last game before the contract expired). Indiana wanted to keep the home and home setup, Calipari wanted to move the games back to neutral court. Neither side would budge at all. Kinda sucks, I wanted to see Indiana end UK's winning streak at Rupp. Not sure if the same rationale applies to the end of the UNC-UK series too or not? But apparently Cal thought UK needed to ease up the OOC schedule anyways since the Missouri and TAMU are joining the SEC. :-k

[SouthSideRyan]

Orris following Weber to KSU

[Exile on Waveland]

The Indiana-Kentucky series is officially over now I guess. And apparently UK-UNC might be dead too? :-k

 

IU had been talking to Kansas about a series...wonder if that rumor has any legs?

Damn that sucks. It was about to be a great game annually. Who killed that?

 

This really sucks. Both schools have egg on their face from this. The neutral sites that UK wanted worked quite well for fifteen years; whereas the campus sites since then have worked well and probably make more sense, considering the State of Kentucky's lack of viable neutral options. I've seen/heard a lot of IU fan's saying they're happy IU did not cave into UK's demands; however, everything does not have to be a pissing contest. Sometimes comprimising is the best solution. Sometimes, even "caving" may be the best solution; be the bigger man/school, and save a 43-year tradition that has been, every year, the game I've looked forward to most on the schedule.

 

*For the record, though, the game was moved from neutral sites to campus sites at UK's behest seven years ago . . . so I could understand some frustration on IU's part that UK cannot make up their minds. But so what?

[illiniguy]

The Indiana-Kentucky series is officially over now I guess. And apparently UK-UNC might be dead too? :-k

 

IU had been talking to Kansas about a series...wonder if that rumor has any legs?

Damn that sucks. It was about to be a great game annually. Who killed that?

 

This really sucks. Both schools have egg on their face from this. The neutral sites that UK wanted worked quite well for fifteen years; whereas the campus sites since then have worked well and probably make more sense, considering the State of Kentucky's lack of viable neutral options. I've seen/heard a lot of IU fan's saying they're happy IU did not cave into UK's demands; however, everything does not have to be a pissing contest. Sometimes comprimising is the best solution. Sometimes, even "caving" may be the best solution; be the bigger man/school, and save a 43-year tradition that has been, every year, the game I've looked forward to most on the schedule.

 

*For the record, though, the game was moved from neutral sites to campus sites at UK's behest seven years ago . . . so I could understand some frustration on IU's part that UK cannot make up their minds. But so what?

Why do they have to be nuetral site games? Doesn't Cal see that UK probably benefitted from that loss in Bloomington?

[rawaction]

I hate to lose the UK game right now. Both teams should be pretty good for the next few years, with possibly the winning team every year being able to stake a claim for the #1 ranking the week after they've played each other. Neutral site game probably makes more sense. Neither team has trouble selling out their arena, and you could get a bigger venue with some rowdy crowds on both ends and get the school potentially more money.

[SouthSideRyan]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18992247/fifteen-guys-for-13-spots-indianas-delicate-scholarship-situation

 

The article kind of misses the point focusing on Roth. He's not being granted a 5th year, that's not uncommon. What confuses me is how Indiana has 15 guys signed when the Big Ten are supposed to only allow one oversigning.

[Smack]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18992247/fifteen-guys-for-13-spots-indianas-delicate-scholarship-situation

 

The article kind of misses the point focusing on Roth. He's not being granted a 5th year, that's not uncommon. What confuses me is how Indiana has 15 guys signed when the Big Ten are supposed to only allow one oversigning.

 

Not sure on the 15. My guess is that IU has cleared with the B1G that Roth won't be returning and Roth hasn't signed the scholarship paperwork for his 5th year.

 

I thought Roth was on board with being Creaned? Is this Roth leaking to the press that he's not happy with the situation, or is this just a reporter that doesn't know what's going on? I'm guessing it's a reporter that doesn't know what's going on. It would be fun if Roth made a big stink though.

 

I also find it amusing that IU is hiring AAU coaches to get recruits now too.

[SouthSideRyan]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18992247/fifteen-guys-for-13-spots-indianas-delicate-scholarship-situation

 

The article kind of misses the point focusing on Roth. He's not being granted a 5th year, that's not uncommon. What confuses me is how Indiana has 15 guys signed when the Big Ten are supposed to only allow one oversigning.

 

Not sure on the 15. My guess is that IU has cleared with the B1G that Roth won't be returning and Roth hasn't signed the scholarship paperwork for his 5th year.

 

I thought Roth was on board with being Creaned? Is this Roth leaking to the press that he's not happy with the situation, or is this just a reporter that doesn't know what's going on? I'm guessing it's a reporter that doesn't know what's going on. It would be fun if Roth made a big stink though.

 

I also find it amusing that IU is hiring AAU coaches to get recruits now too.

 

NOW?

[Smack]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18992247/fifteen-guys-for-13-spots-indianas-delicate-scholarship-situation

 

The article kind of misses the point focusing on Roth. He's not being granted a 5th year, that's not uncommon. What confuses me is how Indiana has 15 guys signed when the Big Ten are supposed to only allow one oversigning.

 

Not sure on the 15. My guess is that IU has cleared with the B1G that Roth won't be returning and Roth hasn't signed the scholarship paperwork for his 5th year.

 

I thought Roth was on board with being Creaned? Is this Roth leaking to the press that he's not happy with the situation, or is this just a reporter that doesn't know what's going on? I'm guessing it's a reporter that doesn't know what's going on. It would be fun if Roth made a big stink though.

 

I also find it amusing that IU is hiring AAU coaches to get recruits now too.

 

NOW?

 

I guess I hadn't paid too close attention to it before, I just saw they hired Anya's AAU coach. Who was an assistant on a 1-31 (or something like that) Towson team and then LEAPED to IU due to his awesome coaching ability.

[Exile on Waveland]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18992247/fifteen-guys-for-13-spots-indianas-delicate-scholarship-situation

 

The article kind of misses the point focusing on Roth. He's not being granted a 5th year, that's not uncommon. What confuses me is how Indiana has 15 guys signed when the Big Ten are supposed to only allow one oversigning.

 

The article entirely misses the point. Roth was on scholarship for four years and earned both a bachelor's and master's degree from IU. He has not been wronged. Perhaps the paradigm changes if he complains about the situation; however, I'm not sure how likely that seems considering he went through senior night ceremonies at the end of the season. As for the fifteen guys signed, I think the obvious answer is that Roth does not count towards that number (I have not looked up the Big Ten's rules on this issue, of course). I'm still concerned about how the fourteen-for-thirteen will work out, but Roth is a non-issue at this point.

 

As for the assistant coach, that might be the most absurd complaint about IU, even for this board. IU hired someone that was a college assistant coach last year with recruiting ties via his AAU and high school coaching work. What, exactly is the complaint here -- that IU hired for its (recruiting) assistant a coach with recruiting ties? Um, yeah. There was just a long discussion about which assistant would help Illinois recruit Chicago the best.

[Smack]

Caris Levert is supposed to decide today. Apparently Iowa and Purdue are out of the running and it's down to Michigan and Dayton. Apparently Iowa and Purdue never did offer him a scholarship.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

As for the assistant coach, that might be the most absurd complaint about IU, even for this board. IU hired someone that was a college assistant coach last year with recruiting ties via his AAU and high school coaching work. What, exactly is the complaint here -- that IU hired for its (recruiting) assistant a coach with recruiting ties? Um, yeah. There was just a long discussion about which assistant would help Illinois recruit Chicago the best.

 

You really think those are the same things?

[Exile on Waveland]

 

As for the assistant coach, that might be the most absurd complaint about IU, even for this board. IU hired someone that was a college assistant coach last year with recruiting ties via his AAU and high school coaching work. What, exactly is the complaint here -- that IU hired for its (recruiting) assistant a coach with recruiting ties? Um, yeah. There was just a long discussion about which assistant would help Illinois recruit Chicago the best.

 

You really think those are the same things?

 

It's hard for me to say exactly. I honestly have no idea who was mentioned regarding Illinois' assistants, because I care very little about who are the next assistants at Illinois (I do, however, know that it's common knowledge that Jerrence Howard and World Wide Wes are close). I would be rather surprised if none of those names mentioned (or candidates in general) had some ties to either AAU or the CPL itself. It would only make sense.

 

Tom Crean has pretty clearly targeted the Maryland/DC area as a secondary/tertiary recruiting area for IU after the state of Indiana itself. Crean has already landed Maurice Creek and Victor Oladipo from that area. Kenny Johnson was hired to help IU recruit that area based on his connections there from college, high school, and AAU basketball. That also seems to make sense.

[SouthSideRyan]

Hiring somebody for recruiting contacts is different than hiring the AAU coach of a top player in order to secure him.

[Exile on Waveland]

Hiring somebody for recruiting contacts is different than hiring the AAU coach of a top player in order to secure him.

 

What do you think "recruiting contacts" means? You hire someone with "recruiting contacts" because you think that person will help you secure top players.

 

That said -- and moving away from being flippant -- hiring someone specifically to secure one specific player is unseemly, I agree. However, there is a lot built into that assumption here. First, it's rather unclear that Anja is IU's top target for 2013 -- or even their top big-man target. Having seen him play, he would not really be my top choice -- while he has a ton of potential, he's not there yet and doesn't seemingly fit Crean's system very well. He's not remotely a program-changer at this point, and maybe/probably not even an impact player (I don't think he'll end up at IU regardless). Second, Anya isn't the only player from that area/AAU that IU is already interested in; again, Crean clearly wants to consistently recruit the Maryland/DC area. Third, again, of course Johnson has contacts to recruits -- that's inherent in his ties to a top-level AAU program (which was my comparison regarding Illinois, I seriously doubt Illinois would hire a coach with ties to the worst AAU/CPL program . . . you hire someone with "recruiting contacts" to good players/coaches/programs).