Re: College Basketball 2012-2013

[BleacherBadger]

A few schools are commonplace, but I can't recall this many restrictions ever being placed on a transfer. But again, I have no idea why this is legal. (I get the concept to stop other schools from recruiting your kids while they're on scholarship, but [expletive], this is far beyond the spirit of the rules.)

 

Minnesota recently blocked 25 schools for someone's who name I can't think of, and Danny Manning at Tulsa is allowing his guard to talk to only 3 schools.

 

Obviously, this is all a PR nightmare. Bo's only had 1 player transfer before (deep bench player, not an expected starter). He went a bit overboard with the list.

 

However, Uthoff hasn't been a saint in all this either. He waited until Bo was on a recruiting trip to tell the program he was leaving, he hasn't talked with anyone about it, Bo offered to fly back to Madison to talk and Uthoff declined, and Uthoff had someone else give his appeal list to the athletic office (the wrong person at that).

 

I'm not gonna defend that this is all going off the deep end, but noone will remember it in 6 months, and barely anyone knew who Uthoff was 6 days ago.

[abuck1220]

all i know is that the next time hoiberg talks to matt thomas about committing he should probably just play a tape of the mike and mike interview.

[abuck1220]

However, Uthoff hasn't been a saint in all this either. He waited until Bo was on a recruiting trip to tell the program he was leaving, he hasn't talked with anyone about it, Bo offered to fly back to Madison to talk and Uthoff declined, and Uthoff had someone else give his appeal list to the athletic office (the wrong person at that).

 

he's 18.

 

I'm not gonna defend that this is all going off the deep end, but noone will remember it in 6 months, and barely anyone knew who Uthoff was 6 days ago.

 

then ryan shouldn't care if this bench warmer leaves to play somewhere else.

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

A few schools are commonplace, but I can't recall this many restrictions ever being placed on a transfer. But again, I have no idea why this is legal. (I get the concept to stop other schools from recruiting your kids while they're on scholarship, but [expletive], this is far beyond the spirit of the rules.)

 

Minnesota recently blocked 25 schools for someone's who name I can't think of, and Danny Manning at Tulsa is allowing his guard to talk to only 3 schools.

 

Obviously, this is all a PR nightmare. Bo's only had 1 player transfer before (deep bench player, not an expected starter). He went a bit overboard with the list.

 

However, Uthoff hasn't been a saint in all this either. He waited until Bo was on a recruiting trip to tell the program he was leaving, he hasn't talked with anyone about it, Bo offered to fly back to Madison to talk and Uthoff declined, and Uthoff had someone else give his appeal list to the athletic office (the wrong person at that).

 

I'm not gonna defend that this is all going off the deep end, but noone will remember it in 6 months, and barely anyone knew who Uthoff was 6 days ago.

 

Just because other schools have done similar things does not make it right. This is a system problem and right now Bo is the poster child of a broken system. Bo can walk away from a multiyear contract at Wisconsin at any point with almost no consequences, but if a kid on a yearly renewable scholarship wants to leave, he prevents him from going to places where he would have real opportunities to excel.

 

If Bo had only restricted the Big Ten, Iowa St. and Marquette, he probably comes out of this unscathed, because he had a rational reason for blocking each of those schools. Instead, he's gone off the deep end with the ACC.

[Smack]

This guy does not have nearly enough street cred for Iowa St. anyway.

[SouthSideRyan]

According to Rivals, Iowa St. recruited Uthoff. I'm unsure of the specifics, but recall it was Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, and a couple other programs after him hard. I'm guessing with respect to Iowa St., Ryan feels he put resources into the recruitment where Iowa State was a player, and doesn't want Uthoff at a school he recruited against. I don't have a problem with restricting him from there if that is the case. Blackballing the entire ACC is unacceptable.

 

Was it even Hoiberg's staff that recruited him?

[abuck1220]

According to Rivals, Iowa St. recruited Uthoff. I'm unsure of the specifics, but recall it was Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, and a couple other programs after him hard. I'm guessing with respect to Iowa St., Ryan feels he put resources into the recruitment where Iowa State was a player, and doesn't want Uthoff at a school he recruited against. I don't have a problem with restricting him from there if that is the case. Blackballing the entire ACC is unacceptable.

 

Was it even Hoiberg's staff that recruited him?

 

his recruitment was right around when hoiberg was hired, so there may have been some overlap.

[SouthSideRyan]

I have no idea of Uthoff's financial situation, and it'd never happen, but could he transfer to Iowa State as a regular student, walk-on the team and be awarded a scholarship after his redshirt?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

According to Rivals, Iowa St. recruited Uthoff. I'm unsure of the specifics, but recall it was Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, and a couple other programs after him hard. I'm guessing with respect to Iowa St., Ryan feels he put resources into the recruitment where Iowa State was a player, and doesn't want Uthoff at a school he recruited against. I don't have a problem with restricting him from there if that is the case. Blackballing the entire ACC is unacceptable.

 

Was it even Hoiberg's staff that recruited him?

Not initially.

[gocubs2118]

I have no idea of Uthoff's financial situation, and it'd never happen, but could he transfer to Iowa State as a regular student, walk-on the team and be awarded a scholarship after his redshirt?

 

Yes, he could do that with Iowa as well.

[illiniguy]

I have no idea of Uthoff's financial situation, and it'd never happen, but could he transfer to Iowa State as a regular student, walk-on the team and be awarded a scholarship after his redshirt?

 

Yes, he could do that with Iowa as well.

Doesn't he also lose a year of eligibility if it's in the big ten?

[SouthSideRyan]

I think they dumped that rule for Ben Brust...who wound up at Wisconsin.

 

Uthoff is only going to have 3 years of college ball wherever he does land (as long as Bo is ok with that) because he was redshirted this year.

[gocubs2118]

I have no idea of Uthoff's financial situation, and it'd never happen, but could he transfer to Iowa State as a regular student, walk-on the team and be awarded a scholarship after his redshirt?

 

Yes, he could do that with Iowa as well.

Doesn't he also lose a year of eligibility if it's in the big ten?

Maybe but I thought they got rid of that rule?

[SouthSideRyan]

I have no idea of Uthoff's financial situation, and it'd never happen, but could he transfer to Iowa State as a regular student, walk-on the team and be awarded a scholarship after his redshirt?

 

Yes, he could do that with Iowa as well.

 

Actually, isn't that what Recker did at Iowa? Or did he transfer to ASU then wound up at Iowa paying his own way? I know there was something screwy with his transfer.

[illiniguy]

I have no idea of Uthoff's financial situation, and it'd never happen, but could he transfer to Iowa State as a regular student, walk-on the team and be awarded a scholarship after his redshirt?

 

Yes, he could do that with Iowa as well.

 

Actually, isn't that what Recker did at Iowa? Or did he transfer to ASU then wound up at Iowa paying his own way? I know there was something screwy with his transfer.

Went to Arizona, then because of his car wreck was allowed to leave and go to Iowa with no penalty.

[MSG T]

I have no idea of Uthoff's financial situation, and it'd never happen, but could he transfer to Iowa State as a regular student, walk-on the team and be awarded a scholarship after his redshirt?

 

Yes, he could do that with Iowa as well.

 

Actually, isn't that what Recker did at Iowa? Or did he transfer to ASU then wound up at Iowa paying his own way? I know there was something screwy with his transfer.

Went to Arizona, then because of his car wreck was allowed to leave and go to Iowa with no penalty.

 

Yep. And I may be wrong, but I don't think he was on scholarship at Iowa. I think he was paying in-state tuition (IIRC his dad lived in Cedar Rapids at the time, or maybe mom)

[bcl412]

I have no idea of Uthoff's financial situation, and it'd never happen, but could he transfer to Iowa State as a regular student, walk-on the team and be awarded a scholarship after his redshirt?

 

Yes, he could do that with Iowa as well.

 

Actually, isn't that what Recker did at Iowa? Or did he transfer to ASU then wound up at Iowa paying his own way? I know there was something screwy with his transfer.

Went to Arizona, then because of his car wreck was allowed to leave and go to Iowa with no penalty.

 

Yep. And I may be wrong, but I don't think he was on scholarship at Iowa. I think he was paying in-state tuition (IIRC his dad lived in Cedar Rapids at the time, or maybe mom)

 

I'm finding a bunch of articles on google that says that Recker paid his own way. I had no idea this happened.

[illiniguy]

 

I'm finding a bunch of articles on google that says that Recker paid his own way. I had no idea this happened.

Yep he wasn't a scholarship player. Decent walk on lol.

[bcl412]

 

I'm finding a bunch of articles on google that says that Recker paid his own way. I had no idea this happened.

Yep he wasn't a scholarship player. Decent walk on lol.

 

Yes, but all this Recker talk is reminding me of Iowa's 01-02 team which fills me with rage.

[BleacherBadger]

Pierre Pierce rage is the best rage

 

Edit: I know you're prob talking about Recker's knee

[SouthSideRyan]

Somebody swapped the 'g' and 'p' keys on Badger's keyboard.

 

ETA: Yes, he was talking about Gierre Gierce. Shut up.

Edited April 19, 2012 by SouthSideRyan

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Yep. And I may be wrong, but I don't think he was on scholarship at Iowa. I think he was paying in-state tuition (IIRC his dad lived in Cedar Rapids at the time, or maybe mom)

His dad lives in Washington, IA, and he was paying in-state tuition.

[MSG T]

I have no idea of Uthoff's financial situation, and it'd never happen, but could he transfer to Iowa State as a regular student, walk-on the team and be awarded a scholarship after his redshirt?

 

Yes, he could do that with Iowa as well.

 

Actually, isn't that what Recker did at Iowa? Or did he transfer to ASU then wound up at Iowa paying his own way? I know there was something screwy with his transfer.

Went to Arizona, then because of his car wreck was allowed to leave and go to Iowa with no penalty.

 

Yep. And I may be wrong, but I don't think he was on scholarship at Iowa. I think he was paying in-state tuition (IIRC his dad lived in Cedar Rapids at the time, or maybe mom)

 

I'm finding a bunch of articles on google that says that Recker paid his own way. I had no idea this happened.

 

That was my memory of it. I think his dad moved to Iowa for work around the time he went to AZ.

[snoodmonger]

A few schools are commonplace, but I can't recall this many restrictions ever being placed on a transfer. But again, I have no idea why this is legal. (I get the concept to stop other schools from recruiting your kids while they're on scholarship, but [expletive], this is far beyond the spirit of the rules.)

 

Minnesota recently blocked 25 schools for someone's who name I can't think of, and Danny Manning at Tulsa is allowing his guard to talk to only 3 schools.

 

Obviously, this is all a PR nightmare. Bo's only had 1 player transfer before (deep bench player, not an expected starter). He went a bit overboard with the list.

 

However, Uthoff hasn't been a saint in all this either. He waited until Bo was on a recruiting trip to tell the program he was leaving, he hasn't talked with anyone about it, Bo offered to fly back to Madison to talk and Uthoff declined, and Uthoff had someone else give his appeal list to the athletic office (the wrong person at that).

 

I'm not gonna defend that this is all going off the deep end, but noone will remember it in 6 months, and barely anyone knew who Uthoff was 6 days ago.

 

It's not Manning who's blocking the Tulsa kid, it's the Tulsa AD. The kid gave him a list of nine schools, and he granted permission for 3. And he's rightfully getting raked over the coals for it, too.

[BleacherBadger]

Somebody swapped the 'g' and 'p' keys on Badger's keyboard.

 

very, very good