Chicago Bears Offseason 2012

[Banedon]

From today's MMQB:

 

To Bears coach Lovie Smith, the Olympic competition he watched every night after training camp meetings in his dorm room at Olivet Nazarene University was a vital football lesson for everyone in the game.

"Imagine working four years for one moment,'' he said to me in his office on campus here Saturday morning. "This is their Super Bowl. Bigger, even. Such a good lesson for all of us. They work hard for hours a day, day after day, with no one watching. There's no result right away. You can't see the benefit of what you're doing right away. It's the same for us here in camp. In a football practice, you practice your craft every day. It's tedious, tiring, regimented. But if you don't do the tedious stuff, you'll never win. That's one of the things the Olympics can teach us all.''

[Banedon]

Bears roundtable with Score and Tribune ppls...

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/13/bears-tribune-roundtable-discussion/

[Banedon]

Bears roundtable with Score and Tribune ppls...

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/13/bears-tribune-roundtable-discussion/

 

Zach Zaidman definitely seems like he's much more optimistic than everyone else on that panel.

[Soul]

Zaidman's buying the plan. Biggs is a tad more skeptical, to say the least.

 

BTW, I had trouble with that page randomly refreshing, which stops the audio. So I only listened to selected portions of it.

[Banedon]

Zaidman's buying the plan. Biggs is a tad more skeptical, to say the least.

 

BTW, I had trouble with that page randomly refreshing, which stops the audio. So I only listened to selected portions of it.

 

Yeah, I thought that was just my kindle doing that. I ended up downloading the podcast version of it after all.

[Guest]

From today's MMQB:

 

To Bears coach Lovie Smith, the Olympic competition he watched every night after training camp meetings in his dorm room at Olivet Nazarene University was a vital football lesson for everyone in the game.

"Imagine working four years for one moment,'' he said to me in his office on campus here Saturday morning. "This is their Super Bowl. Bigger, even. Such a good lesson for all of us. They work hard for hours a day, day after day, with no one watching. There's no result right away. You can't see the benefit of what you're doing right away. It's the same for us here in camp. In a football practice, you practice your craft every day. It's tedious, tiring, regimented. But if you don't do the tedious stuff, you'll never win. That's one of the things the Olympics can teach us all.''

Does Lovie not understand that there are world championships every year and lots of meets/competitions in the interim?

[pitchcs]

From today's MMQB:

 

To Bears coach Lovie Smith, the Olympic competition he watched every night after training camp meetings in his dorm room at Olivet Nazarene University was a vital football lesson for everyone in the game.

"Imagine working four years for one moment,'' he said to me in his office on campus here Saturday morning. "This is their Super Bowl. Bigger, even. Such a good lesson for all of us. They work hard for hours a day, day after day, with no one watching. There's no result right away. You can't see the benefit of what you're doing right away. It's the same for us here in camp. In a football practice, you practice your craft every day. It's tedious, tiring, regimented. But if you don't do the tedious stuff, you'll never win. That's one of the things the Olympics can teach us all.''

Does Lovie not understand that there are world championships every year and lots of meets/competitions in the interim?

 

I think it's fair that about 95% of people couldn't care less about anything other than the Olympics in those sports though.

[Banedon]

From today's MMQB:

 

To Bears coach Lovie Smith, the Olympic competition he watched every night after training camp meetings in his dorm room at Olivet Nazarene University was a vital football lesson for everyone in the game.

"Imagine working four years for one moment,'' he said to me in his office on campus here Saturday morning. "This is their Super Bowl. Bigger, even. Such a good lesson for all of us. They work hard for hours a day, day after day, with no one watching. There's no result right away. You can't see the benefit of what you're doing right away. It's the same for us here in camp. In a football practice, you practice your craft every day. It's tedious, tiring, regimented. But if you don't do the tedious stuff, you'll never win. That's one of the things the Olympics can teach us all.''

Does Lovie not understand that there are world championships every year and lots of meets/competitions in the interim?

 

He's a football coach, and is probably using this to motivate players. Reality doesn't fit the narrative here.

[jersey cubs fan]

From today's MMQB:

 

To Bears coach Lovie Smith, the Olympic competition he watched every night after training camp meetings in his dorm room at Olivet Nazarene University was a vital football lesson for everyone in the game.

"Imagine working four years for one moment,'' he said to me in his office on campus here Saturday morning. "This is their Super Bowl. Bigger, even. Such a good lesson for all of us. They work hard for hours a day, day after day, with no one watching. There's no result right away. You can't see the benefit of what you're doing right away. It's the same for us here in camp. In a football practice, you practice your craft every day. It's tedious, tiring, regimented. But if you don't do the tedious stuff, you'll never win. That's one of the things the Olympics can teach us all.''

Does Lovie not understand that there are world championships every year and lots of meets/competitions in the interim?

 

I think he understands that but also understands about the timeliness of using the Olympics as a way to motivate his players.

[jersey cubs fan]

Brad Biggs ‏@BradBiggs

Tice: "Chris is over there on the left side. I didn't feel like the other player was up to par."

[Banedon]

Brad Biggs ‏@BradBiggs

Tice: "Chris is over there on the left side. I didn't feel like the other player was up to par."

 

Wow. Webb reduced to "the other player".

[tfarks]

Douche and Turd Sandwich.

 

I still believe just putting Carimi at LT from Day 1 would have been the best bet.

[Banedon]

Douche and Turd Sandwich.

 

I still believe just putting Carimi at LT from Day 1 would have been the best bet.

 

I think Williams over there is the best option. (Outside of having brought in outside help in the offseason, but that option is gone.) Everybody has said from day 1 that Carimi didn't have the mobility for LT.

[tfarks]

I just never bought into that completely. I don't get to stand there and watch practice. All I know is he's the most talented OL they have. Whatever shortcomings he had I think he could have made up for by now with technique, more experience, etc. I just don't think his potential at LT was average, while he could have only been All-Pro on the right side.

 

Of course all I have to go on is really not much of anything.

[Banedon]

I just never bought into that completely. I don't get to stand there and watch practice. All I know is he's the most talented OL they have. Whatever shortcomings he had I think he could have made up for by now with technique, more experience, etc. I just don't think his potential at LT was average, while he could have only been All-Pro on the right side.

 

Of course all I have to go on is really not much of anything.

 

I think Tice has proven in his time with the Bears that he's able to patch the crappy pieces he's been given into a somewhat serviceable O-line. It started off rocky, but over the course of the year, it approached average.

 

Gotta be honest, if they can manage close to average this season, I'd be giddy. And right now, I'm still trusting Tice. He hasn't done anything that would make me doubt him......yet.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think Chris Williams is the most talented lineman, he's just physically fragile and may be a little too soft mentally. Carimi is just a solid lineman who could be a standout RT, but I don't think he can handle it physically as well as Williams could if he ever put it together.

[cubbyvirus00]

I just never bought into that completely. I don't get to stand there and watch practice. All I know is he's the most talented OL they have. Whatever shortcomings he had I think he could have made up for by now with technique, more experience, etc. I just don't think his potential at LT was average, while he could have only been All-Pro on the right side.

 

Of course all I have to go on is really not much of anything.

 

I think Tice has proven in his time with the Bears that he's able to patch the crappy pieces he's been given into a somewhat serviceable O-line. It started off rocky, but over the course of the year, it approached average.

 

Gotta be honest, if they can manage close to average this season, I'd be giddy. And right now, I'm still trusting Tice. He hasn't done anything that would make me doubt him......yet.

 

I don't understand why he's [expletive] on Webb though. Besides the obvious that he's trying to motivate him. I dont think he has soured on Webb just yet...

[Banedon]

Well I think we can at the very least end the "cut Chris Williams" talk.

[cubbyvirus00]

Zaidman's buying the plan. Biggs is a tad more skeptical, to say the least.

 

BTW, I had trouble with that page randomly refreshing, which stops the audio. So I only listened to selected portions of it.

 

Zaidman is always the positive one.

 

 

Arkush is always the negative one.

[Banedon]

“I have trouble sleeping at night until I know that our quarterback is protected,” Tice said.

[Soul]

Tice's muscle-headed approach is kind of fun.

[jersey cubs fan]

Tice's muscle-headed approach is kind of fun.

 

 

would have been nice if he didn't convince management he could "coach these guys up" instead of going out and getting better linemen.

[Magnetic Curses]

lol, tice hitched his wagon to the webb star, convinced mgmt to do the same, and is now disavowing any knowledge of him.

[Soul]

Might've been the other way around: mgmt telling Tice he'd better make do because there are other priorities, and Tice convincing himself he could work with Webb as a result because he had no choice.

[cubbyvirus00]

I'm thinking they should have just drafted DeCastro in the first round. He was the BPA and pretty much a lock at Guard. We could have looked at pass rush in other rounds.

 

Even if the Bears wanted a DE in the first, they could have gotten a G in the 2nd.