Known Liar&Cheater Ryan Braun Caught Lying&Cheating Again

[Little Slide Rooter]

From day 1 I thought Braun was not guilty and i was right, I can understand why many of your think he is guilty, if this happened to a cub i would say he is guilty, there is still a lot we do not know.

 

Buck up. If anyone knows what its like to learn that the best hitter of their lifetime was a cheater despite lack of concrete evidence it's us.

 

I don't know why you think awareness of Bonds is especially high with Cubs fans, but OK.

 

I meant it as the best Cubs hitter of our time.

[SouthSideRyan]

Dino only does that as a part time job and his son was there also,

 

Right, his full time job is as a director of a rehab facility from his degree in sports medicine and athletic training. And if there's one thing I know about that business, it's that they love fraud perpetuated towards a professional athlete.

[seanimal]

If I'm Joe Pissdeliverer...

 

i've been calling you that for years

[erik316wttn]

My opinion may be turning on Braun.

 

The guy who collected his sample did that part time... he was not a full-time drug tester. The sample sat on his desk for two days. That in and of itself does not mean Braun is innocent, however it does mean that a mistake COULD have (not WAS, but COULD have) been made and a wrong sample could have been sent in. This is the part that gets me, however:

 

Braun went to MLB and offered to give a DNA sample, which could be definitively matched to the urine sample. MLB turned him down. That in and of itself speaks volumes. If MLB was 100% sure of Braun's guilt, why turn down an offer to nail him to the wall? That tells me they jumped the gun and had to stick with it and didn't want to back down, and that's probably what tipped the scales in Braun's favor.

 

This makes absolutely no sense. You're basically saying the MLB is behind this and refused a DNA test that Braun is still presumably offering (not true) and decided to stick with trying to suspend the reigning MVP instead of admitting a mistake was made and somebody leaked incorrect information? You really think they'd do everything they could to accuse him falsely and punish him instead of trying to clear it up? Are you [expletive] serious?

 

you probably havent read my other posts in this thread plus i'm drunk and arugmentative this eavvening.

[Rob]

If I'm Joe Pissdeliverer...

 

i've been calling you that for years

 

I was wondering why he kept following me into public restrooms...

[XZero771679666304]

From day 1 I thought Braun was not guilty and i was right, I can understand why many of your think he is guilty, if this happened to a cub i would say he is guilty, there is still a lot we do not know.

 

 

 

The only people who "know" Braun is innocent are those who want to believe it and in the unlikely event he actually is, Braun himself.

 

But the evidence still indicates otherwise.

 

I can understand why you and other Brewers fans may talk yourselves into believing that this result is proof of Braun's innocence, but you'll have to accept that no one else does. Because it doesn't. Not in any kind of objective sense, anyway.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Braun peed in a cup.

 

The pee in that cup had synthetic testosterone in it.

 

Nobody has come up with a remotely plausible explanation for those two facts besides "Braun did PEDs."

 

As soon as someone does, I'll consider the possibility that he's innocent.

[rocket]

Braun peed in a cup.

 

The pee in that cup had synthetic testosterone in it.

 

Nobody has come up with a remotely plausible explanation for those two facts besides "Braun did PEDs."

 

As soon as someone does, I'll consider the possibility that he's innocent.

 

obviously the fanatic cubs fan tester took the ped's, got bruan's clean sample, took it home, replace braun's urine with his own urine, and sent it off.

[NonProfitCow]

Obviously the guy tried to ruin Braun's career, good name and future earning potential by tampering with his sample.So, Braun's pretty much got to press some sort of criminal charges against the guy and sue the hell out of him, right? For some reason I don't see that happening.

[Tracer Bullet]

Boy he comes off as a douche that knows he got away with something in his media speech.

[Outshined_One]

Days like these are why I love Grant Brisbee.

 

Right now, there are a lot of Milwaukee fans who are interested in due process, who are upset about confidential information getting leaked to the media. Right now, there are people getting flummoxed because a player they love is still under suspicion. There are people who will never believe Braun was clean, who will always throw the "technicality" card back in the face of Brewers fans.

 

To which I say, "Yesssssssssssssssssssssss." A thousand times, yes. Beautiful.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Boy he comes off as a douche that knows he got away with something in his media speech.

 

Major League Baseballs Drew Peterson.

[DivineBovine]

Boy he comes off as a douche that knows he got away with something in his media speech.

 

 

Yeah. He said he "respects MLB's objections". Like an innocent guy who got put away for 10 years would say he respects the criminal justice system.

 

No innocent man would say that. If it were me and I were innocent, I certainly would not be saying I respected anything about the MLB.

 

And I'd love to hear any plausible explanation for his innocence besides intentionally planted evidence.

[XZero771679666304]

 

And I'd love to hear any plausible explanation for his innocence besides intentionally planted evidence.

 

 

The refrigerator was a relic from East Germany and the steroidal residue seeped into Braun's sample container via osmosis.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Boy he comes off as a douche that knows he got away with something in his media speech.

 

 

Yeah. He said he "respects MLB's objections". Like an innocent guy who got put away for 10 years would say he respects the criminal justice system.

 

No innocent man would say that. If it were me and I were innocent, I certainly would not be saying I respected anything about the MLB.

 

And I'd love to hear any plausible explanation for his innocence besides intentionally planted evidence.

 

Plus once he retires, he can start work on his novel, If I Did It, a "fictional" account of how he juiced up to enhance his performance and ultimately got off scott free.

[Outshined_One]

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[SouthSideRyan]

It's ok, nobody here can read Arabic.

[SouthSideRyan]

Oh, and for lols, Will Carroll subscribes spontaneous generation theory.

[MWV]

On February 24th, Ryan Braun stated during his press conference that there were a lot of things that we learned about the collector, about the collection process, about the way that the entire thing worked that made us very concerned and very suspicious about what could have actually happened. Shortly thereafter, someone who had intimate knowledge of the facts of this case released my name to the media. I am issuing this statement to set the record straight.

 

I am a 1983 graduate of the University of Wisconsin and have received Master Degrees from the University of North Carolina and Loyola University of Chicago. My full-time job is the director of rehabilitation services at a health care facility. In the past, I have worked as a teacher and an athletic trainer, including performing volunteer work with Olympic athletes. I am a member of both the National Athletic Trainers' Association and the Wisconsin Athletic Trainers' Association.

 

I have been a drug collector for Comprehensive Drug Testing since 2005 and have been performing collections for Major League Basebal's Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program since that time. I have performed over 600 collections for MLB and also have performed collections for other professional sports leagues. I have performed post-season collections for MLB in four separate seasons involving five different clubs.

 

On October 1, 2011, I collected samples from Mr. Braun and two other players. The CDT collection team for that day, in addition to me, included three chaperones and a CDT coordinator. One of the chaperones was my son, Anthony. Chaperones do not have any role in the actual collection process, but rather escort the player to the collection area.

 

I followed the same procedure in collecting Mr. Braun's sample as I did in the hundreds of other samples I collected under the Program. I sealed the bottles containing Mr. Braun's A and B samples with specially-numbered, tamper-resistant seals, and Mr. Braun signed a form certifying, among other things, that the specimens were capped and sealed in his presence and that the specimen identification numbers on the top of the form matched those on the seals. I placed the two bottles containing Mr. Braun's samples in a plastic bag and sealed the bag. I then placed the sealed bag in a standard cardboard Specimen Box which I also sealed with a tamper-resistant, correspondingly-numbered seal placed over the box opening. I then placed Mr. Braun's Specimen Box, and the Specimen Boxes containing the samples of the two other players, in a Federal Express Clinic Pack. None of the sealed Specimen Boxes identified the players. I completed my collections at Miller Park at approximately 5:00 p.m.

 

Given the lateness of the hour that I completed my collections, there was no FedEx office located within 50 miles of Miller Park that would ship packages that day or Sunday. Therefore, the earliest that the specimens could be shipped was Monday, October 3. In that circumstance, CDT has instructed collectors since I began in 2005 that they should safeguard the samples in their homes until FedEx is able to immediately ship the sample to the laboratory, rather than having the samples sit for one day or more at a local FedEx office. The protocol has been in place since 2005 when I started with CDT and there have been other occasions when I have had to store samples in my home for at least one day, all without incident.

 

The FedEx Clinic Pack containing Mr. Braun's samples never left my custody. Consistent with CDT's instructions, I brought the FedEx Clinic Pack containing the samples to my home. Immediately upon arriving home, I placed the FedEx Clinic Pack in a Rubbermaid container in my office which is located in my basement. My basement office is sufficiently cool to store urine samples. No one other than my wife was in my home during the period in which the samples were stored. The sealed Specimen Boxes were not removed from the FedEx Clinic Pack during the entire period in which they were in my home. On Monday, October 3, I delivered the FedEx Clinic Pack containing Mr. Braun's Specimen Box to a FedEx office for delivery to the laboratory on Tuesday, October 4. At no point did I tamper in any way with the samples. It is my understanding that the samples were received at the laboratory with all tamper-resistant seals intact.

 

This situation has caused great emotional distress for me and my family. I have worked hard my entire life, have performed my job duties with integrity and professionalism, and have done so with respect to this matter and all other collections in which I have participated.

 

Neither I nor members of my family will make any further public comments on this matter. I request that members of the media, and baseball fans, whatever their views on this matter, respect our privacy. And I would like to sincerely thank my family and friends for their overwhelming support through this difficult time. Any future inquiries should be directed to my attorney Boyd Johnson of Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr LLP.

 

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[woodchip2153]

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the comments are full of dumb.

[Tracer Bullet]

So Braun's defense was to tarnish the reputation of an innocent man?

 

Braun, in his douchey press conference, said he tried to handle the matter with class, professionalism and about 2 dozens adjectives in the same vein.

 

I'd say he failed pretty [expletive] miserably.

[jersey cubs fan]

So Braun's defense was to tarnish the reputation of an innocent man?

 

Braun, in his douchey press conference, said he tried to handle the matter with class, professionalism and about 2 dozens adjectives in the same vein.

 

I'd say he failed pretty [expletive] miserably.

 

Sure, but the important thing is that he tried.

[TruffleShuffle]

yeah brewer fans should be embarrassed about how they treated this guy. you can say that the mlb process was flawed, but making accusations that the guy's cub fan son tampered with the tests, and refusing to consider the possibility that this baseball player you like might have cheated, is ridiculous.

[SouthSideRyan]

yeah brewer fans should be embarrassed about how they treated this guy. you can say that the mlb process was flawed, but making accusations that the guy's cub fan son tampered with the tests, and refusing to consider the possibility that this baseball player you like might have cheated, is ridiculous.

 

It's not just Brewers fans either. The anti-steroid testing/Libertarian zealots were out in full embarrassing force on BTF the past few days.

[SouthSideRyan]

So anyway, if CDT has instructed their collectors to keep the samples in their homes rather than taking them directly to FedEx and the arbiter rules that the CBA says otherwise, doesn't pretty much every person who tested positive after their respective FedEx was closed have a case?