Known Liar&Cheater Ryan Braun Caught Lying&Cheating Again

[Have a seat, Neifi]

@JeffPassan

Jeff Passan

Another source said WADA lab tests B sample using IRMS -- a carbon-isotope-ratio test. Experts say false positives are almost impossible.

[imb]

it's pretty obvious that in Braun's lucrative side-career of blowing weightlifters, he accidentally ingested a load of testosterone.

[Clem Fandango]

Fixed it...

 

http://i.imgur.com/B48TN.jpg

Edited December 12, 2011 by The Logan

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Milwaukee Brewers' star outfielder Ryan Braun's original test for performance-enhancing drugs as the playoffs were winding down in October was "insanely high, the highest ever for anyone who has ever taken a test, twice the level of the highest test ever taken," said a source familiar with the developing case in which Ryan was reported to have tested positive for an elevated level of testosterone caused by a synthetic substance, triggering a possible 50-game suspension if the test results are upheld.

 

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/ryan-braun-initial-ped-test-results-insanely-high-nl-mvp-lawyer-insists-client-peds-article-1.990020#ixzz1gGdKdao4

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/ryan-braun-initial-ped-test-results-insanely-high-nl-mvp-lawyer-insists-client-peds-article-1.990020

[TruffleShuffle]

he probably cheated and got caught, but if i'm ever accused of a crime and see kyle sitting in the pool of prospective jurors, i'm telling my lawyer to throw him out.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

he probably cheated and got caught, but if i'm ever accused of a crime and see kyle sitting in the pool of prospective jurors, i'm telling my lawyer to throw him out.

 

If there is smoking gun evidence against you then good call.

[Careless]

Fixed it...

 

http://i.imgur.com/fBHAu.jpg

you did that ans didn't change the "contains" part?

[Clem Fandango]

Completely glossed over it. Honestly wasn't paying attention to that... I fixed it so no one has to worry about that now

[Derwood]

I'd rather see Aaron Rodgers fail a drug test than Ryan Braun

[Little Slide Rooter]

I'd rather see Aaron Rodgers fail a drug test than Ryan Braun

 

That would probably rank in my top 10 list of greatest things that have ever happened.

[98navigator]

As I was saying yesterday, baseball is going to make this go away. It can't afford for one of the faces of its new generation to be suspended 50 games for anything related to roids, and certainly not after Bud Selig came out and talked about how clean the sport is now with players such as Braun.

 

Except it has come out that it is not roid related at all. Keep up.

 

Only Braun's side is saying it isn't PEDs. MLB is allowing the process to complete. Frankly, I commend Braun's people for working to slant the narrative but I don't believe it one bit. Words like "never intentionally" and "chain of command" are meant to both cause doubt in the court of public opinion and, more importantly, to be a window into his defense. An initial positive sample that later shows synthetic testosterone through WADA's unparalleled testing standards can not be questioned. As Victor Conte said today, a second negative result is useless to the validity of the first result; depending on the method of use (oral or intravenous) the substance can leave the body anywhere from a matter of hours to days.

 

Edit: It's already been mentioned but it can't be repeated enough; ignorance is not a defense. His counsel would have to prove negligent handling of the initial sample.

 

On another note, I have my own conspiracy theory: Braun's people leaked this story to ESPN knowing of the slim chances to win an appeal. Their real goal now is to shape the story so that fans believe, at worst, he's guilty of taking a non performance enhancing drug or, at best, a victim of a faulty process in which he's forced to wrongly serve a suspension. Anyway, I don't really believe this because it doesn't make sense that they would leak the part about elevated testosterone levels but it's still fun to try to fill in the blanks...

 

When he loses his appeal we'll all find out more about the PED.

Edited December 12, 2011 by 98navigator

[NonProfitCow]

As I was saying yesterday, baseball is going to make this go away. It can't afford for one of the faces of its new generation to be suspended 50 games for anything related to roids, and certainly not after Bud Selig came out and talked about how clean the sport is now with players such as Braun.

 

Except it has come out that it is not roid related at all. Keep up.

 

Only Braun's side is saying it isn't PEDs. MLB is allowing the process to complete. Frankly, I commend Braun's people for working to slant the narrative but I don't believe it one bit. Words like "never intentionally" and "chain of command" are meant to both cause doubt in the court of public opinion and, more importantly, to be a window into his defense. An initial positive sample that later shows synthetic testosterone through WADA's unparalleled testing standards can not be questioned. As Victor Conte said today, a second negative result is useless to the validity of the first result; depending on the method of use (oral or intravenous) the substance can leave the body anywhere from a matter of hours to days.

 

Edit: It's already been mentioned but it can't be repeated enough, ignorance is not a defense. His counsel would have to prove negligent handling of the initial sample.

 

On another note, I have my own conspiracy theory: Braun's people leaked this story to ESPN knowing of the slim chances to win an appeal. Their real goal now is to shape the story so that fans believe, at worst, he's guilty of taking a non performance enhancing drug or, at best, a victim of a faulty process in which he's forced to wrongly serve a suspension.

THIS

[Sammy Sofa]

I'd rather see Aaron Rodgers fail a drug test than Ryan Braun

 

I'd rather see the entire Packers team fail an AIDS test.

[TruffleShuffle]

Only Braun's side is saying it isn't PEDs.

 

no, a lot of people are saying it isn't PEDs. some sportswriter in milwaukee, ken rosenthal, etc. similar to how manny ramirez tested positive for a banned substance (a female fertility drug that's used by roiders to restart testosterone production at the end of a cycle).

[TruffleShuffle]

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15654

 

pretty good summary of where the story's at, although there's a lot of information out there and some of it is false.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Only Braun's side is saying it isn't PEDs.

 

no, a lot of people are saying it isn't PEDs. some sportswriter in milwaukee, ken rosenthal, etc. similar to how manny ramirez tested positive for a banned substance (a female fertility drug that's used by roiders to restart testosterone production at the end of a cycle).

 

And where do you think those people are hearing it from?

[Little Slide Rooter]

-some groupy he was nailing was taking this fertility drug so he'd get her knocked up.

-when he told her he coul never like a skank like that she vowed revenge.

- she learned online that this substance was banned by MLB and would destroy his reputation

-as a peace offering she baked him a batches with brownies laced with the stuff

-case closed

[98navigator]

Only Braun's side is saying it isn't PEDs.

 

no, a lot of people are saying it isn't PEDs. some sportswriter in milwaukee, ken rosenthal, etc. similar to how manny ramirez tested positive for a banned substance (a female fertility drug that's used by roiders to restart testosterone production at the end of a cycle).

 

People with the same sources. Manny was attempting to mask PEDs so I don't know how that's any better for anyone's reputation (ultimately, that's what Braun is most concerned about at this point because the chances are overwhelming he's going to serve a suspension). When the information came out about what he was taking, very few people believed his story. My contention is the same will be said for Braun.

[jersey cubs fan]

it's pretty obvious that in Braun's lucrative side-career of blowing weightlifters, he accidentally ingested a load of testosterone.

 

this did not get the proper attention it deserved.

[erik316wttn]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/135405518.html

 

Could have been a stimulant, but not a steroid, and people within baseball "know Braun is telling the truth" according to the source quoted in the article.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/135405518.html

 

Could have been a stimulant, but not a steroid, and people within baseball "know Braun is telling the truth" according to the source quoted in the article.

 

There are pretty much three possible sources for that information.

 

1) Ryan Braun

2) Ryan Braun's agent

3) An official with the team that makes a lot of money off of Ryan Braun's marketability

[98navigator]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/135405518.html

 

Could have been a stimulant, but not a steroid, and people within baseball "know Braun is telling the truth" according to the source quoted in the article.

 

 

My question for Haudricourt, and anyone else getting info from Braun's side, is what stimulant naturally contains testosterone? Remember, the question isn't why his own testosterone levels increased but why he had synthetic testosterone in his body. Also, we're not talking about trace levels here; they've already admitted to the discovery of extremely high levels of manufactured hormone. Like I've already said, this is a PR campaign and they are seemingly doing a great job of convincing some people.

Edited December 12, 2011 by 98navigator

[NonProfitCow]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/135405518.html

 

Could have been a stimulant, but not a steroid, and people within baseball "know Braun is telling the truth" according to the source quoted in the article.

Most important part of that article...

But my source -- and again, this is from Braun's end

 

Braun's known of this for over a month. Becoming more and more obvious that this whole thing was finally "leaked" by Braun's people to try and get out front and sway the public opinion and muddy the waters because now they know he's going to be suspended.

[mul21]

Just curious about something that's only loosely related. These guys can get cortisone shots from their doctor, or no? Or is even local injections for injuries banned?

 

I'm suffering from tendonitis of the right shoulder and I am on a 10 day prednisone treatment. Am I out of luck? I mean is that gonna ban me from baseballz?

 

:bye:

 

Not sure if you're serious or not, but I'll answer since nobody else did. Prednisone is an anti-inflammatory steroid that slightly suppresses your immune system and cortisone works in a similar manner and neither jacks up your testosterone level. The crap Braun is accused of taking is an anabolic steroid, which does jack up the testosterone level, either directly by what's taken or by taking a precursor that turns into testosterone.

[Magnetic Curses]

Just curious about something that's only loosely related. These guys can get cortisone shots from their doctor, or no? Or is even local injections for injuries banned?

 

I'm suffering from tendonitis of the right shoulder and I am on a 10 day prednisone treatment. Am I out of luck? I mean is that gonna ban me from baseballz?

 

:bye:

 

Not sure if you're serious or not, but I'll answer since nobody else did. Prednisone is an anti-inflammatory steroid that slightly suppresses your immune system and cortisone works in a similar manner and neither jacks up your testosterone level. The crap Braun is accused of taking is an anabolic steroid, which does jack up the testosterone level, either directly by what's taken or by taking a precursor that turns into testosterone.

 

correct, prednisone is not an anabolic steroid. you will not get stronger from taking it, though your bones may turn to dust and you may swell up like a balloon.