Re: bears game 11, @ oakland at 3:05

[SpongeWorthy]

Hanie will be productive.

 

3 INTs is productive

 

i think he freaks everybody out and we win the game. when i say freak out, i mean throws for 250 yards, 3 tds 1 int, and makes a couple of plays that get the meatballs all hot and bothered and talking about how he should have been starting all along.

 

He'll also take a big hit and stay in the game, and everyone will pretend like Cutler wouldn't have.

 

He's like a kid out there!

[Magnetic Curses]

HE REMINDS ME OF FRAN TARKENTON!

[SouthSideRyan]

Hanie will be productive.

 

3 INTs is productive

 

i think he freaks everybody out and we win the game. when i say freak out, i mean throws for 250 yards, 3 tds 1 int, and makes a couple of plays that get the meatballs all hot and bothered and talking about how he should have been starting all along.

 

He'll also take a big hit and stay in the game, and everyone will pretend like Cutler wouldn't have.

 

He's like a kid out there!

 

It's a CHANGE OF CULTURE with Caleb out there.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I hope you're right guys. I see him throwing 3 ints and fumbling twice. Forte tears his acl and never gets paid for what he has done.

[Magnetic Curses]

It's a CHANGE OF CULTURE with Caleb out there.

 

and he didn't yell at dan sanzenbacher for dropping 3 passes on 3rd down! born leader!

[minnesotacubsfan]

It's a CHANGE OF CULTURE with Caleb out there.

 

and he didn't yell at dan sanzenbacher for dropping 3 passes on 3rd down! born leader!

 

no no no no:

 

he yelled at sazenbacher the RIGHT way, off camera followed by going over the in-game film to show him where he did wrong. such a great guy.

[UMFan83]

It's a CHANGE OF CULTURE with Caleb out there.

 

and he didn't yell at dan sanzenbacher for dropping 3 passes on 3rd down! born leader!

 

no no no no:

 

he yelled at sazenbacher the RIGHT way, off camera followed by going over the in-game film to show him where he did wrong. such a great guy.

 

He also visited a sick kid in the hospital and promised him that he would throw 3 touchdown passes this week.

[Soul]

I hope you're right guys. I see him throwing 3 ints and fumbling twice. Forte tears his acl and never gets paid for what he has done.

 

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa250/soulschizm/HanieINT.jpg

 

Dammit.

[SouthSideRyan]

It's a CHANGE OF CULTURE with Caleb out there.

 

and he didn't yell at dan sanzenbacher for dropping 3 passes on 3rd down! born leader!

 

no no no no:

 

he yelled at sazenbacher the RIGHT way, off camera followed by going over the in-game film to show him where he did wrong. such a great guy.

 

He also visited a sick kid in the hospital and promised him that he would throw 3 touchdown passes this week.

 

But Earl Bennett has to catch one of them in his helmet.

[rawaction]

I don't the believe the defense is good enough to win with a game manager as QB. One way or the other the offense must make some plays, probably with the passing game. How many is Oakland to commit to the run defense 8 or 9? Will they even consider the passing game?

 

Why would you say this when you just witnessed our defense win a game vs. Detroit in exactly this fashion?

 

Counting on the defense to score doesn't seem like a solid game plan, I hope I'm wrong.

 

It's a bad plan to build a franchise around for the long haul, but it's not an absurd concept to rely on for a game or two, especially with this defense and special teams. They are designed to score.

 

Exactly. If the Bears D and special teams aren't taking the ball away for scores or setting up the offense on a short field....then they aren't executing the way the coaching staff wants them to. Not that a defensive and/or special teams TD every week has to happen for them to win, but the Bears can and should count on getting points this way if they have to. That's how they are taught and coached. If not, they probably won't win most games regardless of QB.

[UMFan83]

ESPN bumps the Bears from 5th to 7th in their power rankings, no doubt because of Cutler's injury. Would have really liked to see where they put the Bears after last weeks game and a healthy Cutler.

[BleacherBadger]

ESPN bumps the Bears from 5th to 7th in their power rankings, no doubt because of Cutler's injury. Would have really liked to see where they put the Bears after last weeks game and a healthy Cutler.

 

Probably keep them at 5th, behind the Pack, 49ers, Saints, and Pitt, but ahead of Balt and NE.

[Banedon]

ESPN bumps the Bears from 5th to 7th in their power rankings, no doubt because of Cutler's injury. Would have really liked to see where they put the Bears after last weeks game and a healthy Cutler.

 

James Walker had the Bears 4th last week. Put them 11th this week. Everyone else had the Bears within one spot of last week.

[Banedon]

Also:

 

The Texans generated the largest gap between high and low votes among panelists. Quarterback injuries played a role in disparities for Houston and Chicago. Kuharsky gave both teams the benefit of the doubt pending additional evidence, but he views the teams differently.

 

"I have a lot more faith in Matt Leinart and what's around him than I do in Caleb Hanie and what's around him," Kuharsky said. "In both instances, I didn't want to score the teams down ahead of time. I put them where they are now, not where I think they'll be. My forecast would be that the Texans still win their division while the Bears lose out in a wild-card bid."

[bukie]

This week, FO ran two sets of playoff odds, one assuming the teams would all continue as they have played, and one with the QB play of Houston, Chicago and Kansas City replaced by a replacement-level player (which actually not affect KC's rating much).

 

Playoff projections odds with current play:

 

AFC:

1. Houston 11-5 (11.2 wins)

2. Pittsburgh 11-5 (11.1 wins)

3. New England 11-5 (11.1 wins)

4. Oakland 9-7 (8.7 wins)

5. Baltimore 11-5 (10.9 wins)

6. Cincinnati 9-7 (9.4 wins)

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7. NY Jets 9-7 (8.9 wins)

8. Tennessee 8-8 (8.3 wins)

9. Denver 8-8 (7.9 wins)

10. Buffalo 7-9 (7.4 wins)

11. San Diego 7-9 (6.6 wins)

12. Cleveland 6-10 (5.9 wins)

13. Miami 6-10 (5.7 wins)

14. Jacksonville 6-10 (5.7 wins)

15. Kansas City 6-10 (5.7 wins)

16. Indianapolis 2-14 (1.7 wins)

 

NFC:

1. Green Bay 14-2 (13.6 wins)

2. San Francisco 13-3 (13.0 wins)

3. New Orleans 11-5 (10.6 wins)

4. Dallas 9-7 (9.4 wins)

5. Chicago 11-5 (10.9 wins)

6. Detroit 10-6 (10.3 wins)

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7. Atlanta 10-6 (9.8 wins)

8. NY Giants 9-7 (9.2 wins)

9. Philadelphia 7-9 (7.3 wins)

10. Seattle 7-9 (6.8 wins)

11. Tampa Bay 7-9 (6.5 wins)

12. Arizona 5-11 (5.4 wins)

13. Washington 5-11 (5.2 wins)

14. Carolina 4-12 (4.0 wins)

15. Minnesota 4-12 (4.0 wins)

16. St. Louis 4-12 (3.7 wins)

 

 

Playoff projections with Chicago, Houston and KC using replacement-level QBs:

 

AFC:

1. Pittsburgh 11-5 (11.2 wins)

2. New England 11-5 (11.2 wins)

3. Houston 11-5 (10.9 wins)

4. Oakland 9-7 (8.8 wins)

5. Baltimore 11-5 (10.9 wins)

6. Cincinnati 10-6 (9.5 wins)

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7. NY Jets 9-7 (9.0 wins)

8. Tennessee 8-8 (8.3 wins)

9. Denver 8-8 (8.1 wins)

10. Buffalo 7-9 (7.4 wins)

11. San Diego 7-9 (6.6 wins)

12. Cleveland 6-10 (5.9 wins)

13. Jacksonville 6-10 (5.8 wins)

14. Miami 6-10 (5.7 wins)

15. Kansas City 6-10 (5.5 wins)

16. Indianapolis 2-14 (1.8 wins)

 

NFC:

1. Green Bay 14-2 (13.7 wins)

2. San Francisco 13-3 (13.0 wins)

3. New Orleans 11-5 (10.6 wins)

4. Dallas 9-7 (9.4 wins)

5. Chicago 11-5 (10.5 wins)

6. Detroit 10-6 (10.3 wins)

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7. Atlanta 10-6 (9.8 wins)

8. NY Giants 9-7 (9.2 wins)

9. Philadelphia 7-9 (7.3 wins)

10. Seattle 7-9 (6.9 wins)

11. Tampa Bay 7-9 (6.5 wins)

12. Arizona 5-11 (5.4 wins)

13. Washington 5-11 (5.1 wins)

14. Minnesota 4-12 (4.1 wins)

15. Carolina 4-12 (4.0 wins)

16. St. Louis 4-12 (3.7 wins)

 

Yes, the Texans' playoff odds decreased from 97% to 96%, and the Bears' playoff odds decreased from 85% to 77%...

 

[jersey cubs fan]

bears are now 5 point underdogs

[rawaction]

bears are now 5 point underdogs

 

That seems a little absurd. The Raiders aren't a great team. They're borderline even to be considered "good". And you're still talking about a Bears team that has shown it can take the ball away on defense and coming off of holding 3 of the 10 team offensive teams in the league to an average under 17 points with 10 forced turnovers (not counting the Jackson fumble vs. Philly) in the last 3 games. And the Bears have shown they can run the football when they have to.

[Theo]

There's some money to be made there. This is the same Oakland team that lost it's last two home games to KC and Denver. Even with Cutler out, I don't see the Raider love.

[jersey cubs fan]

There's some money to be made there. This is the same Oakland team that lost it's last two home games to KC and Denver. Even with Cutler out, I don't see the Raider love.

 

It's not Raiders love as much as Hanie uncertainty. Nobody wants to put money on an unknown QB on the road against a division leader.

[NewUserName]

Is McFadden playing?

[Guest]

There's some money to be made there. This is the same Oakland team that lost it's last two home games to KC and Denver. Even with Cutler out, I don't see the Raider love.

 

The Raiders aren't good (they're the best team in the worst division in football) but those were Palmer's first two games with the team. The KC game they started Boller and Palmer played the second half on only a few days of practice. He's been much better the last two weeks, which were on the road (31-43, 465 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 120 QBrating).

 

I think McFadden is expected to miss the game, though that could obviously change over the next few days.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Raiders aren't good (they're the best team in the worst division in football)

 

Misspelled Broncos.

[UMFan83]

The Raiders aren't good (they're the best team in the worst division in football)

 

Misspelled Tebows.

 

ftfy

[JockJones]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInB9RmZ_kE

 

I had to go back and watch this. Hanie comes in to the game at around the 5 minute mark. He actually made a number of good throws, showed a decent arm, and shows good pocket presence. I feel like he can be productive, as long as he isn't being asked to throw the ball 30-35 times.

[UMFan83]

I'm not particularly worried about his arm and ability to make throws or even throw on the run. Just worried about his decision making, as both of his INTs in that game were head scratchers.