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it's too easy, he's got one thing and the rest of it is whiny incoherent rambling, trying to discover some [expletive]-ass thesis. it's just not fair to him.

 

Sorry to the mods for responding negatively. You can only bite your tongue for so long. I'm over it now. Still don't know how the heck that post was confusing but ok.

 

Anyways, Hester missed practice yesterday. Let's hope he can be healthy enough to contribute on Sunday.

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You know how awesome it is to read a game thread when half the posts are sulley trying to emotionally talk himself through the drama of a sporting event?

 

agreed

 

His ranting about the Packers is awesome. Come to think of it, UMFan's are pretty exciting too.

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hahahaha do you have pictures of me saved?

 

i made that picture at your request several years ago and it has been sitting on my photobucket ever since.

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hahahaha do you have pictures of me saved?

 

i made that picture at your request several years ago and it has been sitting on my photobucket ever since.

 

hahahaha oh man my memory is worse than I thought. Why in the hell did I have that made?

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Wow, I'm liking this game more for the Bears than I thought I would. I had this chalked up as a loss, even with Cutler playing. That was based on the west coast trip, playing a team that gets after the QB pretty well, and playing a Raiders team that likes to run the ball. But the Raiders are more beat-up than the Bears coming into this one. Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford, and Jarvis Moss are already ruled out. I'm guessing Heyward Bey misses this game, and Denarius Moore is also very much in doubt. A total of 9 players are questionable for the Raiders (6 of them starters), in addition to the 3 ruled out already. They could be without as many as 9 starters. McFadden's injury is huge, because the Bears don't do as well vs RBs who test their gap control defense. Michael Bush is a good RB, but he's not a threat to go the distance if the Bears lose gap control the way Jahvid Best did in Detroit. The Bears really like to hit bigger RBs. With Taiwan Jones also in question for this game, the Raiders don't even have a change of pace on the bench. I expect the Raiders to go to the run a lot (probably 25-30 times), but I'd be surprised if the Bears allow more than 3.5 per carry. Oakland reminds me a lot of the Tampa offense. They are going to pound the ball on the ground with Bush (like TB would have done if they had Blount against us) and they are going to throw a lot of options out in the passing game. Can't focus on 1 player on defense. They are going to try to get their WRs the ball in space and occassionally take a shot deep.

 

As for the Bears on offense, the Bears think the Raiders are going to blitz the inexperienced Hanie the way they did Christian Ponder last week. I think if I'm the Bears I welcome that. Hanie is a pretty mobile guy, and he's more apt to leave the pocket than Cutler would be. The Raiders have had a few games where they've allowed QBs to scramble for decent yardage, including Ponder last week. Also, the blitz really opens up the screen game. This is a Raiders team that has allowed 100 yard receiving games to Arian Foster and Tomlinson this year, and 8 catches to SD runningbacks. Forte could have a huge game receiving. This is also a Raiders team that allowed 300 yards rushing to a Broncos team that was completely incapable of throwing the ball.

 

The Bears have shown when they focus on running the ball, they can run it. They've also shown that when Cutler is out, the defense plays with an extra sense of urgency. They did allow an 85-yard TD drive to the Giants after Cutler left that game, but after that only allowed a TD on a 2-play 32 yard drive in the 4th quarter of that game. Allowed less than 150 yards and 0 TDs vs. Carolina without Cutler. Allowed NO points to Green Bay in the playoff game, and only 125 yards to GB after halftime, the longest of those drives ending in an Urlacher INT. I think if the Bears can hold Oakland to under 17 points and don't allow defensive/ST TDs, they should be able to win this game.

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Wow, I'm liking this game more for the Bears than I thought I would. I had this chalked up as a loss, even with Cutler playing. That was based on the west coast trip, playing a team that gets after the QB pretty well, and playing a Raiders team that likes to run the ball. But the Raiders are more beat-up than the Bears coming into this one. Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford, and Jarvis Moss are already ruled out. I'm guessing Heyward Bey misses this game, and Denarius Moore is also very much in doubt. A total of 9 players are questionable for the Raiders (6 of them starters), in addition to the 3 ruled out already. They could be without as many as 9 starters. McFadden's injury is huge, because the Bears don't do as well vs RBs who test their gap control defense. Michael Bush is a good RB, but he's not a threat to go the distance if the Bears lose gap control the way Jahvid Best did in Detroit. The Bears really like to hit bigger RBs. With Taiwan Jones also in question for this game, the Raiders don't even have a change of pace on the bench. I expect the Raiders to go to the run a lot (probably 25-30 times), but I'd be surprised if the Bears allow more than 3.5 per carry. Oakland reminds me a lot of the Tampa offense. They are going to pound the ball on the ground with Bush (like TB would have done if they had Blount against us) and they are going to throw a lot of options out in the passing game. Can't focus on 1 player on defense. They are going to try to get their WRs the ball in space and occassionally take a shot deep.

 

As for the Bears on offense, the Bears think the Raiders are going to blitz the inexperienced Hanie the way they did Christian Ponder last week. I think if I'm the Bears I welcome that. Hanie is a pretty mobile guy, and he's more apt to leave the pocket than Cutler would be. The Raiders have had a few games where they've allowed QBs to scramble for decent yardage, including Ponder last week. Also, the blitz really opens up the screen game. This is a Raiders team that has allowed 100 yard receiving games to Arian Foster and Tomlinson this year, and 8 catches to SD runningbacks. Forte could have a huge game receiving. This is also a Raiders team that allowed 300 yards rushing to a Broncos team that was completely incapable of throwing the ball.

 

The Bears have shown when they focus on running the ball, they can run it. They've also shown that when Cutler is out, the defense plays with an extra sense of urgency. They did allow an 85-yard TD drive to the Giants after Cutler left that game, but after that only allowed a TD on a 2-play 32 yard drive in the 4th quarter of that game. Allowed less than 150 yards and 0 TDs vs. Carolina without Cutler. Allowed NO points to Green Bay in the playoff game, and only 125 yards to GB after halftime, the longest of those drives ending in an Urlacher INT. I think if the Bears can hold Oakland to under 17 points and don't allow defensive/ST TDs, they should be able to win this game.

 

Nice post. Palmer isn't that good to begin with, let alone working with a severely depleted WR corps. Really their offense shouldn't perform any better than ours, and if it comes down to defense and special teams, the Bears have the advantage.

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That's actually a really go comparison. I wish I thought of that. Obviously Hanie has more experience being on an NFL roster for the last few years.
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More hope? Some interesting stuff I read on another board.

 

- Forte is tied for league lead with 11 runs of 20 yds or more.........Raiders have allowed a league worst 15 such runs.

- Raiders are one of three teams to allow at least 2 punt returns for scores this season......And supposedly, they want to kick to Hester

- Raiders are on a record setting penalty pace, 103 for 892 yds.

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37-17 Bears

 

we get 2 INT's, including a pick-6, we force a fumble or 2. hanie throws for 250 3tds and a pick.

 

Man you are sky-high on Hanie aren't you?

 

I'm going to go with:

Bears 17

Raiders 13

 

Hanie 165 yards, 1 TD 1 INT. 35 yards rushing.

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I do wonder if the Bears would consider surprising everyone and come out throwing the ball heavily. I'm sure the Raiders are game planning expecting to have a very conservative offense relying on Forte to make plays. We've seen Hanie has the arm strength to make plays. If Oakland starts putting 7+ in the box to stop the run, we could really throw them for a loop by passing it down the field.

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