Re: New GM/Cubs Future News Articles

[Andy]

This is only vaguely relevant, but I recall Hendry "sneaking" Murton into the trade and Theo not being aware of Murton being traded until after it was all said and done. I wouldn't have thought that could happen. Anyone else remember this or should I just file it into crazy made up [expletive] I now pass off as real life memories?

Hendry asked for Murton very late in the negotiations and made it something of a deal-breaker if what I remember reading is correct. Theo wasn't crazy about giving up Murton but they were so close to getting the deal done that he decided to do it anyway, I believe.

[jiml60]

This fiasco might actually have me rooting for the Yankees when they play the Sox.

 

This fiasco will have me rooting for the White Sox when they play the Red Sox.

[Sammy Sofa]

This is all anyone needs to know about Murton at this point:

 

Entrance music: "Strong Tower" by Kutless

 

Ye gads.

[jersey cubs fan]

I keep hearing Boston people talk about how the Cubs have been after Theo for a very long time. It didn't sound like it was referring to just this specific process, but insinuation that Ricketts targetted Theo from day one and was going to get him. My impression is that while Ricketts obviously likes Boston people, he plan was to go after underlings, and it wasn't until Boston's collapse and the carpet bombing by their ownership that Tom decided to pounce on the big prize himself.

[Banedon]

i finally gave in and joined twitter because it seems easier than refreshing nsbb 10,000 times per day at work. i keep waiting for the IT guys to come yell at me.

 

 

Yeah, the search is the key to twitter. Is your company that lacked down that you can't use twitter?

 

Mine is. No twitter, youtube or facebook here.

 

That sucks. Don't you work in IT?

 

Yep. But none of those are considered necessary for the job. Exceptions can be made based on a providing a business case documented need. No real way for me to make that case.

[WilcoFan]

From Theo's perspective, if the Red Sox want to pull this BS and keep him there an extra year, he might as well call their bluff. Why the hell not?

 

He could sit back, make $7 mil for next year doing nothing, and watch as the Cubs set up the infrastructure for him to come in and take over. Then, after next season, he goes to a Cubs team that has:

 

1. Soriano's contract 1 season closer to expiration

2. No more Zambrano contract

3. Minor league players from the '11 draft one step closer to the majors

 

The Cubs' situation only gets better in a year; seems to me like the only negative for either the Cubs or Theo is the meathead PR hit they'll take, which both have demonstrated they don't care about.

 

 

Once again--NOT THAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN. Its just pretty simple leverage from the Cubs/Theo's side.

[SouthSideRyan]

I keep hearing Boston people talk about how the Cubs have been after Theo for a very long time. It didn't sound like it was referring to just this specific process, but insinuation that Ricketts targetted Theo from day one and was going to get him. My impression is that while Ricketts obviously likes Boston people, he plan was to go after underlings, and it wasn't until Boston's collapse and the carpet bombing by their ownership that Tom decided to pounce on the big prize himself.

 

I can't think off the top of my head what I read to make me believe it, but it sounded to me like he was had the idea to chase Epstein since Hendry was canned.

[jersey cubs fan]

I keep hearing Boston people talk about how the Cubs have been after Theo for a very long time. It didn't sound like it was referring to just this specific process, but insinuation that Ricketts targetted Theo from day one and was going to get him. My impression is that while Ricketts obviously likes Boston people, he plan was to go after underlings, and it wasn't until Boston's collapse and the carpet bombing by their ownership that Tom decided to pounce on the big prize himself.

 

I can't think off the top of my head what I read to make me believe it, but it sounded to me like he was had the idea to chase Epstein since Hendry was canned.

 

I realize the name was bandied about at the time, but Epstein was a huge longshot. I thought he didn't move to the front of the list until Boston collapsed.

[Guest]

Chances of Theo working for the Cubs: 75%

Chances of Theo working for the Red Sox: 12%

 

This is all a PR stunt to keep the meatheads and media at bay. Henry wants to come away looking like he fought until the end.

[jersey cubs fan]

From Theo's perspective, if the Red Sox want to pull this BS and keep him there an extra year, he might as well call their bluff. Why the hell not?

 

He could sit back, make $7 mil for next year doing nothing, and watch as the Cubs set up the infrastructure for him to come in and take over. Then, after next season, he goes to a Cubs team that has:

 

1. Soriano's contract 1 season closer to expiration

2. No more Zambrano contract

3. Minor league players from the '11 draft one step closer to the majors

 

The Cubs' situation only gets better in a year; seems to me like the only negative for either the Cubs or Theo is the meathead PR hit they'll take, which both have demonstrated they don't care about.

 

 

Once again--NOT THAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN. Its just pretty simple leverage from the Cubs/Theo's side.

 

Of course the Cubs could look to be in fantastic shape by next season and not needing to pay huge money for a president to install between Ricketts and his baseball men.

[Tracer Bullet]

Chances of Theo working for the Cubs: 75%

Chances of Theo working for the Red Sox: 12%

 

This is all a PR stunt to keep the meatheads and media at bay. Henry wants to come away looking like he fought until the end.

Um, what's the other 13%?

[bukie]

Chances of Theo working for the Cubs: 75%

Chances of Theo working for the Red Sox: 12%

 

This is all a PR stunt to keep the meatheads and media at bay. Henry wants to come away looking like he fought until the end.

Um, what's the other 13%?

Margin of error.

[Laura]

I keep hearing Boston people talk about how the Cubs have been after Theo for a very long time. It didn't sound like it was referring to just this specific process, but insinuation that Ricketts targetted Theo from day one and was going to get him. My impression is that while Ricketts obviously likes Boston people, he plan was to go after underlings, and it wasn't until Boston's collapse and the carpet bombing by their ownership that Tom decided to pounce on the big prize himself.

 

I can't think off the top of my head what I read to make me believe it, but it sounded to me like he was had the idea to chase Epstein since Hendry was canned.

 

I realize the name was bandied about at the time, but Epstein was a huge longshot. I thought he didn't move to the front of the list until Boston collapsed.

 

I recall that there was speculation that the collapse actually lessened the chances of Theo joining Chicago because he and ownership would be less likely to walk / allow him to walk early after such a historic choke. There was a headline along the lines of "Boston loses Wild Card, but real losers are Cubs" with that sort of reasoning.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Chances of Theo working for the Cubs: 75%

Chances of Theo working for the Red Sox: 12%

 

This is all a PR stunt to keep the meatheads and media at bay. Henry wants to come away looking like he fought until the end.

Um, what's the other 13%?

 

Theo dies of a brain aneurysm. It seems high, but actuarial science is still in its infancy, and you have to account for the genetic background of his father, Peter Gammons.

[C.C.]

i finally gave in and joined twitter because it seems easier than refreshing nsbb 10,000 times per day at work. i keep waiting for the IT guys to come yell at me.

 

 

Yeah, the search is the key to twitter. Is your company that lacked down that you can't use twitter?

 

Mine is. No twitter, youtube or facebook here.

 

That sucks. Don't you work in IT?

 

Yep. But none of those are considered necessary for the job. Exceptions can be made based on a providing a business case documented need. No real way for me to make that case.

 

That's fucked up. I never heard of IT not having full rights to everything.

[Guest]

Chances of Theo working for the Cubs: 75%

Chances of Theo working for the Red Sox: 12%

 

This is all a PR stunt to keep the meatheads and media at bay. Henry wants to come away looking like he fought until the end.

Um, what's the other 13%?

Margin of error in my mind. There's also a chance he gets bought out and signs a non-compete rider.

[Tracer Bullet]

Chances of Theo working for the Cubs: 75%

Chances of Theo working for the Red Sox: 12%

 

This is all a PR stunt to keep the meatheads and media at bay. Henry wants to come away looking like he fought until the end.

Um, what's the other 13%?

Margin of error in my mind. There's also a chance he gets bought out and signs a non-compete rider.

 

You think he'd sign a noncompete? For what stupid reason would he do that?

[SouthSideRyan]

Chances of Theo working for the Cubs: 75%

Chances of Theo working for the Red Sox: 12%

 

This is all a PR stunt to keep the meatheads and media at bay. Henry wants to come away looking like he fought until the end.

Um, what's the other 13%?

 

Theo dies of a brain aneurysm. It seems high, but actuarial science is still in its infancy, and you have to account for the genetic background of his father, Peter Gammons.

 

Great-Grandfather

[C.C.]

Chances of Theo working for the Cubs: 75%

Chances of Theo working for the Red Sox: 12%

 

This is all a PR stunt to keep the meatheads and media at bay. Henry wants to come away looking like he fought until the end.

Um, what's the other 13%?

Margin of error in my mind. There's also a chance he gets bought out and signs a non-compete rider.

 

Or you just fucked up on the addition.

[jersey cubs fan]

I recall that there was speculation that the collapse actually lessened the chances of Theo joining Chicago because he and ownership would be less likely to walk / allow him to walk early after such a historic choke. There was a headline along the lines of "Boston loses Wild Card, but real losers are Cubs" with that sort of reasoning.

 

Yeah, that made no sense then and makes no sense now. There were a couple people who theorized that he'd feel obligated to fix the mess he created, but I think they were just Boston-centric morons without much reason behind them. Boston was ripping apart at the seams and ownership was all about placing blame, it seemed obvious that Theo was sick of their shenanigans.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Just completely and wildly reading between the lines, I think Crane Kenney was both Levine and Kaplan's source yesterday and they got burned.

 

The way the media is about to turn on him, Kenney will be lucky to survive the year. And I'm not sure if I mean that literally or figuratively.

[treebird]

Just completely and wildly reading between the lines, I think Crane Kenney was both Levine and Kaplan's source yesterday and they got burned.

 

The way the media is about to turn on him, Kenney will be lucky to survive the year. And I'm not sure if I mean that literally or figuratively.

 

hahaha, i just asked kaplan on twitter if he was mad at crane kenney for making him look like an incompetent ass

 

EAGERLY AWAITING HIS REPLY

[jersey cubs fan]

Just completely and wildly reading between the lines, I think Crane Kenney was both Levine and Kaplan's source yesterday and they got burned.

 

While that's possible, hasn't Kaplan been part of the Crane bashing during the past 2 years? I vaguely remember him talking about Kenney as part of the problem (moreso than Hendry) and I'd wonder about him talking about a source that way.

[Guest]

Chances of Theo working for the Cubs: 75%

Chances of Theo working for the Red Sox: 12%

 

This is all a PR stunt to keep the meatheads and media at bay. Henry wants to come away looking like he fought until the end.

Um, what's the other 13%?

Margin of error in my mind. There's also a chance he gets bought out and signs a non-compete rider.

 

You think he'd sign a noncompete? For what stupid reason would he do that?

So he could cash in a large% of the six or seven mill they owe him and not work 100 hours/week for the next year.

 

It was not meant to be taken seriously, mostly. And I didn't mess up the math.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Chances of Theo working for the Cubs: 75%

Chances of Theo working for the Red Sox: 12%

 

This is all a PR stunt to keep the meatheads and media at bay. Henry wants to come away looking like he fought until the end.

Um, what's the other 13%?

Margin of error in my mind. There's also a chance he gets bought out and signs a non-compete rider.

 

You think he'd sign a noncompete? For what stupid reason would he do that?

So he could cash in a large% of the six or seven mill they owe him and not work 100 hours/week for the next year.

 

It was not meant to be taken seriously, mostly. And I didn't mess up the math.

 

WTF not? If they give him that much of a buyout, he can just relax with his family for a year. He could also study up on the entire Cubs organization. I'm not saying do any under the table work, just check up on how everyones doing in the various levels of the farm system as well as the big leagues and the needs for the near future. As soon as the no compete time frame is up, he signs the contract and gets to work. As long as we have Hoyer and McCleod already in the fold, I don't see the harm in this scenerio. Surely Hoyer can do some level of simple correspondance on how to conduct this offseason as far as trades, free agent signings, and budget.