If/When Quade is canned, who gets hired?

[dew1679666265]

There is a benefit to firing him immediately. You let it be known very clearly that the manager's spot is open for the Cubs next year, to lessen the risk of letting the right guy go someplace else. There is nothing to be gained by keeping him, because he is a completely incompetent moron with absolutely no clue. You can let the new GM be the guy who fires him, but that's just a disingenuous gesture. Not to mention it burdens the new GM with an unnecessary deed. Just clean house and let him work on hiring people from day 1 instead of having some false "evaluation period".

 

I don't care either way whether they fire him now or after the new GM is hired so long as he isn't around next season. If it's a month from now that Ricketts settles on a GM (very realistic), no GM who has a job offer now or within the next few days is going to wait around to see who the Cubs hire as GM and then wait around some more to see if that new GM settles on him. In the meantime, the job offer he's received is filled and possibly numerous more. Then if the manager doesn't get the Cubs job, he's potentially out of luck, or at least certainly has his options narrowed significantly.

 

It's a completely neutral situation with Quade right now - there's no benefit/negative to keeping him, there's no benefit/negative to firing him. Because of that, I have no problem with Ricketts canning him now or waiting to let the new GM do it.

[jersey cubs fan]

Just because you are putting arbitrary time delays into your scenario doesn't defend your absolutely incorrect assertion that there is no benefit to doing it now or potential risk for waiting. There is an obvious risk and absolutely no benefit to wait. So quit pretending otherwise.

[Guest]

It's also a pretty crappy way to treat Quade. He could start looking for other work.

[dew1679666265]

Just because you are putting arbitrary time delays into your scenario doesn't defend your absolutely incorrect assertion that there is no benefit to doing it now or potential risk for waiting. There is an obvious risk and absolutely no benefit to wait. So quit pretending otherwise.

 

And that risk is that a manager will pass up a certain job opportunity for the possibility that maybe sometime this offseason a new Cubs GM might possibly show enough interest in him to interview him and then maybe he might get a job offer from the Cubs. If the other job offer is the Royals the manager might consider passing it up in the hopes that the new Cubs GM will hire him, but otherwise I see no way that scenario plays out. And if it does that manager made a really dumb decision.

 

Let me rephrase what I said earlier - there's no realistic risk to keeping Quade until the new GM is brought in and there's no realistic benefit to it.

[dew1679666265]

It's also a pretty crappy way to treat Quade. He could start looking for other work.

 

This is a good point. If Ricketts doesn't expect the new GM to have much interest in Quade then I'll buy into it that Ricketts should go ahead and let Quade go to pursue other opportunities.

[El Duderino]

Can't see why Ricketts would have a problem firing Quade before hiring the GM when he felt it was OK to extend Fleita.

[davearm2]

Can't see why Ricketts would have a problem firing Quade before hiring the GM when he felt it was OK to extend Fleita.

Fleita was extended so he wouldn't leave for Detroit (allegedly). Totally different situation.

[Guest]

I don't really know much about Francona, outside of the obvious history of success in Boston. Can somebody sell me on him (not that I think Theo and him would reunite)? I'm just wondering what gets people so excited about him. Are there quotes/stories out there that indicate what his philosophies are?

 

Have the Red Sox done anything innovative or outside the box (and smart, of course) re: pitcher use, batting order importance (or lack thereof), or other non-conventional baseball wisdom type of things in terms of in game strategy?

 

 

I haven't watched them near enough to know such things.

[dfnowak]

Per Boers and Bernstein on WSCR, the White Sox will name Robin Ventura as the new manager.

[Sammy Sofa]

ROBIN VENTU-

 

Oh, wait...nevermind.

[Soul]

Surely it's "when" and not "if."

[hardcorecubfan]

With the Sandberg stuff that just came out, another question occurred to me.

 

It seems fairly inevitable that Quade is going to get canned. If we actually manage to hire a smart GM (which I'm pretty optimistic about) and he's actually allowed to make his own managerial hire instead of having Ryno thrust upon him, who are some promising candidates, be it guys who haven't done it before but are known to have sound philosophies (or at least have come up around guys who are) or experienced guys who aren't going to be under contract?

 

if beane gets the job he'll likely hire a broken down, old failure. someone who's got no dignity left, a broken man with no dreams or illusions of being even a respected name. someone who will do whatever he's told so that he can eat that day.

 

and that's who i want.

 

That "Want AD" would be depressing to read, and the response from the candidate to the advertisement to his wife.....

Hey Dear, my life really sucks. You are screwing around with my best friend, my dog ran away and my pickup truck's transmission is not shifting. Life sucks, so I am going down and applying for the Cubs jobs

[javy knows my name]

Perhaps you should stick to unintentional comedy.

[Magnetic Curses]

i bet he's got a couple quarts of onion soup in the back of that pickup truck, though.

[Old Style]

So now that Theo is taking over, what are the odds he hires Sandberg to replace Mr. No Hair?

[bukie]

So now that Theo is taking over, what are the odds he hires Sandberg to replace Mr. No Hair?

Better than zero, less than 100%.

[El Duderino]

So now that Theo is taking over, what are the odds he hires Sandberg to replace Mr. No Hair?

Better than zero, less than 100%.

 

jon heyman everyone.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

I'm still heavily rooting for Randolph no matter who the GM is. I really like him with an Epstein/Beane/Cashman...basically a big name GM.

 

Necessary post is necessary.

[Vinestal]

George Ofman citing sources close to the situation says that Sandberg os not on Theo's short list of candidates. Not that this is surprising to me.

[Hollandsworths mug]

Levine was on Waddle and Silvy about half hour ago and he said that Sandberg is not in the mix from what he is being told from several sources. In fact, he is not even in the top four choices. Again, who the heck knows.

[Guest]

Levine was on Waddle and Silvy about half hour ago and he said that Sandberg is not in the mix from what he is being told from several sources. In fact, he is not even in the top four choices. Again, who the heck knows.

 

That's not quite what he said. According to his source, Ricketts asked each of the top 3 or 4 GM candidates they interviewed who their manager might be, and none of them mentioned Sandberg.

[Hollandsworths mug]

Levine was on Waddle and Silvy about half hour ago and he said that Sandberg is not in the mix from what he is being told from several sources. In fact, he is not even in the top four choices. Again, who the heck knows.

 

That's not quite what he said. According to his source, Ricketts asked each of the top 3 or 4 GM candidates they interviewed who their manager might be, and none of them mentioned Sandberg.

 

Thanks for the clarification. I picked it up mid stream and heard something that Ryno was not in the mix according to Levine and heard not even the top four.

 

However, obviously Theo was part of this group and not a mention of Ryno.

[Banedon]

Ricketts should've just gone ahead and fired Quade already.

[SouthSideRyan]

Ricketts should've just gone ahead and fired Quade already.

 

Why? We certainly haven't missed out on anyone by waiting, and to the best of my knowledge Quade hasn't either.

[Banedon]

Ricketts should've just gone ahead and fired Quade already.

 

Why? We certainly haven't missed out on anyone by waiting, and to the best of my knowledge Quade hasn't either.

 

Just feels like we're letting him twist in the wind a bit. But I guess if Offman is right, there might be a reason for Quade still being around.