If/When Quade is canned, who gets hired?

[El Duderino]

No we still hate Sosa and Prior.

 

We're supposed to hate Prior? I still have undying love for him.

 

*swoons over 2003 stats*

[SouthSideRyan]

No we still hate Sosa and Prior.

 

We're supposed to hate Prior? I still have undying love for him.

 

*swoons over 2003 stats*

 

You of all people should know it's the royal we.

[javy knows my name]

No we still hate Sosa and Prior.

 

We're supposed to hate Prior? I still have undying love for him.

 

*swoons over 2003 stats*

 

You of all people should know it's the royal we.

 

hahaha

[El Duderino]

No we still hate Sosa and Prior.

 

We're supposed to hate Prior? I still have undying love for him.

 

*swoons over 2003 stats*

 

You of all people should know it's the royal we.

 

The editorial?

[biittner77]

It's funny how things change. 10 years ago, people would have sympathy for the Red Sox after their collapse. Now I'd say most people are pretty happy to see their misery. If they were to fire Francona over this, that would really show how much things have changed.

[Rob]

If Boston actually coughs up their playoff spot and they're stupid enough to fire Terry Francona, we should be all over that.

 

Absolutely.

 

But I can't see Epstein making a panic move like that purely for PR purposes.

 

Apparently I was wrong. NBC is reporting Red Sox will decline the options on his contract.

 

Please oh please. Quade has been awful.

[manbearcub]

Yes, please god.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

So now I know I wouldn't mind three guys for sure as the next manager...Willie Randolph, Bobbie Valentine, and Terry Francona. I think Francona might be best off with a little time in between his next big managerial job, but if he wanted to jump right right into the fire and the new GM endorsed it...

[dfnowak]

Does anyone wonder why Quade hasn't been fired yet? If Ricketts can fire Hendry mid season, why isn't Quade gone yet? Is it conceivable that Quade might be sticking around another year? I thought it was obvious to everyone that Quade was clearly in over his head when it came to managing.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Does anyone wonder why Quade hasn't been fired yet? If Ricketts can fire Hendry mid season, why isn't Quade gone yet? Is it conceivable that Quade might be sticking around another year? I thought it was obvious to everyone that Quade was clearly in over his head when it came to managing.

 

Much like all other offseason decisions, it will come down to the new GM.

[CubColtPacer]

Does anyone wonder why Quade hasn't been fired yet? If Ricketts can fire Hendry mid season, why isn't Quade gone yet? Is it conceivable that Quade might be sticking around another year? I thought it was obvious to everyone that Quade was clearly in over his head when it came to managing.

 

Ricketts of course has the authority to fire Quade, but he's not the manager's direct boss like he is for the GM. I don't think Ricketts wants the image of being meddling unless he has a very good reason to do so.

[dfnowak]

Does anyone wonder why Quade hasn't been fired yet? If Ricketts can fire Hendry mid season, why isn't Quade gone yet? Is it conceivable that Quade might be sticking around another year? I thought it was obvious to everyone that Quade was clearly in over his head when it came to managing.

 

Much like all other offseason decisions, it will come down to the new GM.

But what GM would keep him as manager? If you know he's not coming back next year and you know no GM would want him as manager, why delay the inevitable? Unless, Ricketts plans to let him finish out his contract. Im not saying that will happen, just speculation on my part.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Does anyone wonder why Quade hasn't been fired yet? If Ricketts can fire Hendry mid season, why isn't Quade gone yet? Is it conceivable that Quade might be sticking around another year? I thought it was obvious to everyone that Quade was clearly in over his head when it came to managing.

 

Much like all other offseason decisions, it will come down to the new GM.

But what GM would keep him as manager? If you know he's not coming back next year and you know no GM would want him as manager, why delay the inevitable? Unless, Ricketts plans to let him finish out his contract. Im not saying that will happen, just speculation on my part.

 

He doesn't know. Besides, I think that if, or hopefully when they relieve him of his managerial duties he'll be offered another position within the organization. Maybe even his old 3B coaching job or bench coach.

[dfnowak]

Does anyone wonder why Quade hasn't been fired yet? If Ricketts can fire Hendry mid season, why isn't Quade gone yet? Is it conceivable that Quade might be sticking around another year? I thought it was obvious to everyone that Quade was clearly in over his head when it came to managing.

 

Ricketts of course has the authority to fire Quade, but he's not the manager's direct boss like he is for the GM. I don't think Ricketts wants the image of being meddling unless he has a very good reason to do so.

I wouldn't consider firing Quade as meddling...its the obvious thing to do.

 

Ricketts already has the image of meddling w/ the extension of Fleita, but that's a different discussion for a differnt time.

[toonsterwu]

I think the thing to take away from Ricketts first year is that he tries to be good to people that he likes, even if he ends up firing them (by most accounts, he had a good relationship with Hendry). Thus, I wouldn't rule it out that he's already quietly told Quade he won't be back. I doubt it, but considering how he fired Hendry long before anyone knew, it can't be ruled out.

 

More than likely, he simply wants to give a new GM the right to make these decisions.

[manbearcub]

I don't think Ricketts wants the image of being meddling unless he has a very good reason to do so.

Too late.

[dew1679666265]

But what GM would keep him as manager? If you know he's not coming back next year and you know no GM would want him as manager, why delay the inevitable? Unless, Ricketts plans to let him finish out his contract. Im not saying that will happen, just speculation on my part.

 

There's really no benefit to firing him immediately either. He's not hurting the team by remaining as manager right now since the season is over and there's not going to be a managerial search until the new GM is hired so his being around isn't impeding that. I agree with CCP that Ricketts is probably waiting for the new GM to fire Quade and hire someone else to give that new GM a chance to evaluate Quade along with other candidates.

[jersey cubs fan]

But what GM would keep him as manager? If you know he's not coming back next year and you know no GM would want him as manager, why delay the inevitable? Unless, Ricketts plans to let him finish out his contract. Im not saying that will happen, just speculation on my part.

 

There's really no benefit to firing him immediately either. He's not hurting the team by remaining as manager right now since the season is over and there's not going to be a managerial search until the new GM is hired so his being around isn't impeding that. I agree with CCP that Ricketts is probably waiting for the new GM to fire Quade and hire someone else to give that new GM a chance to evaluate Quade along with other candidates.

 

There is a benefit to firing him immediately. You let it be known very clearly that the manager's spot is open for the Cubs next year, to lessen the risk of letting the right guy go someplace else. There is nothing to be gained by keeping him, because he is a completely incompetent moron with absolutely no clue. You can let the new GM be the guy who fires him, but that's just a disingenuous gesture. Not to mention it burdens the new GM with an unnecessary deed. Just clean house and let him work on hiring people from day 1 instead of having some false "evaluation period".

[SouthSideRyan]

But what GM would keep him as manager? If you know he's not coming back next year and you know no GM would want him as manager, why delay the inevitable? Unless, Ricketts plans to let him finish out his contract. Im not saying that will happen, just speculation on my part.

 

There's really no benefit to firing him immediately either. He's not hurting the team by remaining as manager right now since the season is over and there's not going to be a managerial search until the new GM is hired so his being around isn't impeding that. I agree with CCP that Ricketts is probably waiting for the new GM to fire Quade and hire someone else to give that new GM a chance to evaluate Quade along with other candidates.

 

There is a benefit to firing him immediately. You let it be known very clearly that the manager's spot is open for the Cubs next year, to lessen the risk of letting the right guy go someplace else. There is nothing to be gained by keeping him, because he is a completely incompetent moron with absolutely no clue. You can let the new GM be the guy who fires him, but that's just a disingenuous gesture. Not to mention it burdens the new GM with an unnecessary deed. Just clean house and let him work on hiring people from day 1 instead of having some false "evaluation period".

 

You don't think the manager position would come up in any talks with a potential GM?

[jersey cubs fan]

But what GM would keep him as manager? If you know he's not coming back next year and you know no GM would want him as manager, why delay the inevitable? Unless, Ricketts plans to let him finish out his contract. Im not saying that will happen, just speculation on my part.

 

There's really no benefit to firing him immediately either. He's not hurting the team by remaining as manager right now since the season is over and there's not going to be a managerial search until the new GM is hired so his being around isn't impeding that. I agree with CCP that Ricketts is probably waiting for the new GM to fire Quade and hire someone else to give that new GM a chance to evaluate Quade along with other candidates.

 

There is a benefit to firing him immediately. You let it be known very clearly that the manager's spot is open for the Cubs next year, to lessen the risk of letting the right guy go someplace else. There is nothing to be gained by keeping him, because he is a completely incompetent moron with absolutely no clue. You can let the new GM be the guy who fires him, but that's just a disingenuous gesture. Not to mention it burdens the new GM with an unnecessary deed. Just clean house and let him work on hiring people from day 1 instead of having some false "evaluation period".

 

You don't think the manager position would come up in any talks with a potential GM?

 

Yeah, it would come up, but ceremoniously keeping Quade around for the GM to officially axe after he is hired is just foolish and pointless. There's nothing to be gained by keeping him, and there is risk to holding on throughout the GM search.

[SouthSideRyan]

Pointless, yeah, because no GM in their right mind would keep him on. I don't understand how this is supposed to be a hindrance to the GM search.

 

I view it the same way I view holding on to tradeable commodities at the deadlines, just in case the new GM wanted to bring back a Jeff Baker or Carlos Pena, or whoever.

[dfnowak]

But what GM would keep him as manager? If you know he's not coming back next year and you know no GM would want him as manager, why delay the inevitable? Unless, Ricketts plans to let him finish out his contract. Im not saying that will happen, just speculation on my part.

 

There's really no benefit to firing him immediately either. He's not hurting the team by remaining as manager right now since the season is over and there's not going to be a managerial search until the new GM is hired so his being around isn't impeding that. I agree with CCP that Ricketts is probably waiting for the new GM to fire Quade and hire someone else to give that new GM a chance to evaluate Quade along with other candidates.

 

There is a benefit to firing him immediately. You let it be known very clearly that the manager's spot is open for the Cubs next year, to lessen the risk of letting the right guy go someplace else. There is nothing to be gained by keeping him, because he is a completely incompetent moron with absolutely no clue. You can let the new GM be the guy who fires him, but that's just a disingenuous gesture. Not to mention it burdens the new GM with an unnecessary deed. Just clean house and let him work on hiring people from day 1 instead of having some false "evaluation period".

I agree with this completely

[jersey cubs fan]

Pointless, yeah, because no GM in their right mind would keep him on. I don't understand how this is supposed to be a hindrance to the GM search.

 

I view it the same way I view holding on to tradeable commodities at the deadlines, just in case the new GM wanted to bring back a Jeff Baker or Carlos Pena, or whoever.

 

I'm not calling it a hindrance to the GM search, but rather a potential hindrance to the new manager search if a potential manager takes a job elsewhere while you are pretending Quade is still your manager in the meantime.

 

Quade is not a tradable commodity nor a potential asset in 2012, so there is no comparison there. He's a worthless sack of hairless skin who cannot be a part of this coaching staff next year if they have any interest in winning, so why go through the charade of waiting for the new GM to fire him. There is no benefit to waiting, there is potential harm.

[SouthSideRyan]

I don't think it makes a difference whether Quade is there or the position is vacant as long as there isn't a GM. Say the new GM doesn't take over til November 10th. You think with Quade, a potential manager would jump on the Nats job, but if Quade was gone, they'd wait around to see who the Cub GM is and whether they can get an interview?

[PackLandVA]

According to this Link , Francona is OUT!!

 

“The Daily News has been told by sources that Francona is out as Red Sox manager in a meeting this morning with team owner John Henry. The sources said that the decision to end the Sox’ relationship with Francona was Henry’s call, not general manager Theo Epstein’s”