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it doesn't seem like people are as high as they should be on jackson. i mean, the guy has had success at every level he's played at and will most likely be the starter in center next season. why the lack of excitement?

 

Not to mention the approach at the plate which should translate very well.

 

Guy has an isoD of 100 after around 1300 PA.

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it doesn't seem like people are as high as they should be on jackson. i mean, the guy has had success at every level he's played at and will most likely be the starter in center next season. why the lack of excitement?

 

The consensus is pretty much that he'll be a quality everyday player at a premium position but not a superstar. Sounds about right. Seems to be like he could end up Chris Young, hopefully with a better average.

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Quality everyday player at a premium position is pretty awesome.
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Quality everyday player at a premium position is pretty awesome.

 

I agree. L_P_F said that people weren't as high on him as they should be, but the general consensus is pretty much where it should be. Nobodies ever going to confuse him with Bryce Harper or Mike Trout, but he's sill a very good building block to have in an organization without a lot to get excited about at the upper levels.

 

CF, SS, and C are probably the toughest positions to fill offense wise, and we should be set on all 3 of them for the next several years. Now we just ned to fill the other positions with competent hitters.

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Quality everyday player at a premium position is pretty awesome.

 

yeah, i think he'll be one of those guys you stick in center and forget about that position for 10 years. his isod is ridiculous. wsr said chris young with a better average? chris young with a .275-.300 average is a pretty damn great player, i'll take that and he'll be an all-star every year.

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I don't know what to think about Soto anymore. I hope he's not Steve Trachsel.

 

Oh, well. I guess he's not all that young anymore, anyway. But it'd be nice to see a few years in a row of sustained success.

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Quality everyday player at a premium position is pretty awesome.

 

yeah, i think he'll be one of those guys you stick in center and forget about that position for 10 years. his isod is ridiculous. wsr said chris young with a better average? chris young with a .300 average is a pretty damn great player, i'll take that and he'll be an all-star every year.

 

Chris Young is a .230-.240 hitter. I'd expect something like a .270 from Jackson, but again, that's still damn good if he can take his walks and hit for power which he's done at every level.

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I don't know what to think about Soto anymore. I hope he's not Steve Trachsel.

 

Oh, well. I guess he's not all that young anymore, anyway. But it'd be nice to see a few years in a row of sustained success.

 

last year was a real bad year for him and he was still at what, 2.1 WAR? i'll take that too, just hope has a good year for him.

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Quality everyday player at a premium position is pretty awesome.

 

yeah, i think he'll be one of those guys you stick in center and forget about that position for 10 years. his isod is ridiculous. wsr said chris young with a better average? chris young with a .300 average is a pretty damn great player, i'll take that and he'll be an all-star every year.

 

Chris Young is a .230-.240 hitter. I'd expect something like a .270 from Jackson, but again, that's still damn good if he can take his walks and hit for power which he's done at every level.

 

Chris Young as a .270 hitter would still be a pretty damn great player.

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The only big red for Jackson is his strikeout %. That's a big one. I wouldn't pencil him in CF for the next 10 years just yet.
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The only big red for Jackson is his strikeout %. That's a big one. I wouldn't pencil him in CF for the next 10 years just yet.

 

Seems like a natural byproduct of a guy with a patient approach and a 100 isoD. But maybe it's a bit high.

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Quality everyday player at a premium position is pretty awesome.

 

yeah, i think he'll be one of those guys you stick in center and forget about that position for 10 years. his isod is ridiculous. wsr said chris young with a better average? chris young with a .300 average is a pretty damn great player, i'll take that and he'll be an all-star every year.

 

Chris Young is a .230-.240 hitter. I'd expect something like a .270 from Jackson, but again, that's still damn good if he can take his walks and hit for power which he's done at every level.

 

Chris Young as a .270 hitter would still be a pretty damn great player.

 

I just said that. I'll tell you one thing, I would not be at all happy if he were sent to Boston for Epstein. Unless of course they care to send us their center fielder.

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it doesn't seem like people are as high as they should be on jackson. i mean, the guy has had success at every level he's played at and will most likely be the starter in center next season. why the lack of excitement?

 

BA/contact concerns are still out there, but I don't get it either. I think he'll end up being a similar hitter to what BJ Upton's thrown up for his career line...257/.343/.416. I do think he's capable of throwing up a really high end season or two or three...People in general are just sleeping on the Cubs' young guys because the ML team has been so embarrassingly bad. Soto was well liked enough as a prospect and no one saw him putting up his '08 and/or '10 seasons anyway.

 

Speaking of Soto...I hope his every other year thing is just Josh Beckett syndrome.

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it doesn't seem like people are as high as they should be on jackson. i mean, the guy has had success at every level he's played at and will most likely be the starter in center next season. why the lack of excitement?

 

I stopped caring about Red Sox fans' opinions when one of them posted that if he were in charge of the Cubs, he'd throw Vitters into the fire next year but make Jackson prove himself at AAA.

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Not really news but some relevant tweets from Kevin Goldstein of BP

 

Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein

While we all wait for news on Theo and others, I will say that this Cubs GM search has been the stealthiest I've ever seen.

 

Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein

BOS if Theo leaves for sure, but not CHC. RT @Carl9730: @Kevin_Goldstein Do you get the impression Cherington will be GM of CHC or BOS?

 

Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein

0%. RT @CubsSD @Kevin_Goldstein what do you think chance the CHC with get Friedman if Theo turns them down?

 

Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein

Hahn's a candidate, Beane is not interested. RT @mattdennewitz: @Kevin_Goldstein beane? Hahn?

 

Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein

I believe he is one as well. RT @CubsDen: @Kevin_Goldstein How about Coppolella as a #Cubs candidate?

 

Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein

I'd lean towards yes. RT @Drewboke: @Kevin_Goldstein think we will have a new cubs GM before the world series starts?

 

Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein

B. RT @johnmac161: @Kevin_Goldstein do you think Theo is using Cubs for a power play or really is thinking of new challenge?

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Arghhh this is so frustrating...It's like, just give us a yes or no already, so if it's no, we can move on to the next candidates.

It's probably maybe and they are working on yes. Tbs fact that he wasn't at the radio talk is very telling to me.

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Looks like the answer is no so far:

 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Joe-Amorosino/132253236838991

 

Theo Epstein Locked in Boston for Now

 

As of 1pm today (Saturday 10-8-11) the Red Sox have not granted the Cubs permission to interview Theo Epstein; this according to a MLB source who confirmed the Cubs did ask for permission.

 

While the Red Sox owners are considering whether or not to let the Cubs speak with their General Manager, Epstein himself isn't sure what he wants to do. According to the same MLB source, Epstein is torn between taking over another storied and championship starved franchise in the Cubs and remaining loyal to the Red Sox and his extended family here in the Boston area.

 

Epstein's uncertain future in Boston is also holding up the Red Sox search for a new manager. As this point, the owners and front office are doing backround checks on possible cadidates but not ready to interview. If you're trying to figure out who's on the Red Sox short list, think "Terry Francona in November of 2003" and not any of the "Anti-Tito" guys who've been rumored as candidates.

 

So for all the people who think all this stuff is going on behind the scenes and they are just finalizing things, according to that, this is not the case and nothing has been going on behind the scenes.

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Looks like the answer is no so far:

 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Joe-Amorosino/132253236838991

 

Theo Epstein Locked in Boston for Now

 

As of 1pm today (Saturday 10-8-11) the Red Sox have not granted the Cubs permission to interview Theo Epstein; this according to a MLB source who confirmed the Cubs did ask for permission.

 

While the Red Sox owners are considering whether or not to let the Cubs speak with their General Manager, Epstein himself isn't sure what he wants to do. According to the same MLB source, Epstein is torn between taking over another storied and championship starved franchise in the Cubs and remaining loyal to the Red Sox and his extended family here in the Boston area.

Epstein's uncertain future in Boston is also holding up the Red Sox search for a new manager. As this point, the owners and front office are doing backround checks on possible cadidates but not ready to interview. If you're trying to figure out who's on the Red Sox short list, think "Terry Francona in November of 2003" and not any of the "Anti-Tito" guys who've been rumored as candidates.

 

So for all the people who think all this stuff is going on behind the scenes and they are just finalizing things, according to that, this is not the case and nothing has been going on

behind the scenes.

 

Basically this means that we are back to square 1. Sounds like they haven't granted permission because Theo hasn't made up his mind if he's interested or not. I hope Ricketts has been busy with other canidates and isn't just waiting on Theo, who may not even be interested. This is pretty bleak news. oh well time to stop paying attention to the

Theo/Boston rumors for now until some new word comes out that he's interested or they have given permission to speak with him. What a waste of time all this speculation has been.

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Rick Hahn would be a real yawner of a choice of you ask me, the Whitesox don't have a great track record of player development. It just seems like he really hasn't done much of anything to warrant consideration. I guess if Freidman is not a possibility my next favorite would be the Braves guy who's name I would surely butcher if I tried to spell it off the top of my head. - Copolella ?
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I still think Ricketts is going to get his man. Here is the latest from the Globe.

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/uncertainty_rul.html

 

Obviously there is something to the idea of Theo Epstein going to the Cubs. Otherwise the Cubs, the Red Sox and/or Theo himself would have issued explicit denials. Instead there has been a lot of non-answer answers.

 

 

 

The longer the Cubs wait, the longer their reconstruction takes. Meanwhile, the Red Sox are apparently in the awkward situation of having the man in charge with his body at Fenway Park and his heart at Wrigley Field

 

In recent years, there was a definite sense that he was being groomed for the job. Cherington was clearly involved in every discussion, negotiated some deals on his own and even spoke to the media more often.

 

 

 

Scenario No. 1: Epstein wants to stay in Boston and help clean up the mess he helped create in his hometown. But he wants a contract extension and perhaps more power and is using the interest of the Cubs as leverage to make that happen.

 

 

Scenario No. 2: Epstein wants to leave because the job has worn him out. The holdup is negotiating what compensation (if any) the Sox will receive for him from the Cubs and deciding which staff people he can take with him to Chicago. Because they have Cherington in place, the Red Sox are taking a hard line with this and it's taking time.

 

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I don't believe the Facebook story. It doesn't take that long to decide. If Theo's not sure he wants to interview at this point, the answer is probably no. What does he have to lose by just listening to the Cubs offer?

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I think the sticking point is compensation for Boston. They're probably trying find some combination of prospects that will work.

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I don't believe the Facebook story. It doesn't take that long to decide. If Theo's not sure he wants to interview at this point, the answer is probably no. What does he have to lose by just listening to the Cubs offer?

 

I agree. If they haven't granted permission though that's pretty bad news, if you want Theo that is. They have all but said they won't stand in his way if he wants to leave so if permission was denied it was because of Theo's decision not the RedSox.

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