College Basketball 2011-2012

[UMFan83]

8-10 will still put Indiana in the tournament unfortunately. 7-11 would be a realllly interesting case. Say they lose in the 1st round of the BTT, they're still sitting at 20-12 with wins over 2 top 5 teams while playing in the best conference in the country, but...

 

That's incredibly unlikely of course, but it's fun to dream.

 

I was gonna say that it would take an incredible collapse to miss the tourney, but then I realized that they are 5-6 in the Big 10. Their schedule is fairly favorable the rest of the year. 5 home games vs. 3 road games, plus only 1 game left against a currently ranked team (home vs. MSU).

[UMFan83]

The new Sportsline bracket has Illinois vs Iowa State in the first round with Murray State as the 3 seed, I'd take that draw in a heartbeat.

 

Illinois a 6, wow.

 

Don't get too excited...they still have Northwestern in their bracket.

[abuck1220]

good job, iowa. push minnesota off that bubble.

 

wow, a&m giving baylor a run.

[Guest]

How does the entire state of Texas have no one capable of coaching a basketball game?

[gocubs2118]

The last 30 seconds of that game was basketball torture.

[SouthSideRyan]

The new Sportsline bracket has Illinois vs Iowa State in the first round with Murray State as the 3 seed, I'd take that draw in a heartbeat.

 

Illinois a 6, wow.

 

Don't get too excited...they still have Northwestern in their bracket.

 

When you consider the other 4 last four in are Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and Colorado State, it doesn't seem that outrageous.

[SouthSideRyan]

Bracket Board has Illinois vs Iowa State on the 6-11 as well.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah5m9VzdXGLjdHRvaC1HUFZOZk5LSktzcDhjUHh0NHc&hl=en_US#gid=0

[bcl412]

I have no idea who I'd root for if Illinois played Iowa State. What an awful game to have exist.

[Old Style]

How does the entire state of Texas have no one capable of coaching a basketball game?

Billy Kennedy?

 

I have no idea what Elston Turner was doing on that last shot. It certainly wasn't what Kennedy called for. Missing 3 starters and we still should have beaten the grossly overrated Baylor Bears. I'm still pissed over that loss.

[hawkeyecub]

That was fun. Get out to a 15-3 lead with 11 minutes left in the first half then fall apart and let them go 40-20 to take a 10 point lead at 45-35. Then go on a 9-0 run, then back and forth, then they get up 5 with 2:30 to go and Iowa ends on a 9-0 run. They really needed that one.

 

Now get PSU at home Saturday and you have winnable road games with Northwestern and PSU next week.

[Smack]

Tom Crean has the quickest first step in the country.... in the handshake line after a loss...

 

Also, fun fact. If Crean starts averaging 5 road wins a year going forward (no easy task in the B1G) it will take him about 30 years to get back to .500 on the road.

[Guest]

How does the entire state of Texas have no one capable of coaching a basketball game?

Billy Kennedy?

 

I have no idea what Elston Turner was doing on that last shot. It certainly wasn't what Kennedy called for. Missing 3 starters and we still should have beaten the grossly overrated Baylor Bears. I'm still pissed over that loss.

 

I would think that "don't take a turnaround 3 with 9 seconds left when you're down 1" would be something that you can successfully communicate during a timeout, or at the very least heavily imply. On top of that, their last gasp(down 3 with < 2 secs) was to let a guy catch the ball moving away from the basket 75 feet away. They took a shotgun to their own foot in that last minute.

[Old Style]

So a player always does what the coaches tell them to do? Remember that we didn't have any timeouts left, either. We were missing three starters, including the only scholarship PG left on this team, and had a chance to beat a top 10 team with 9 seconds left. What a horrible coach we have.

[Guest]

Yes, when a player does something incredibly stupid as soon as the ball is inbounded right after a timeout, it reflects poorly on the coach.

[Old Style]

So ignore everything else the coach has done and focus on that one play? Kennedy did not call for Turner to go to the corner or to throw up a stupid shot like that. He was supposed to get the ball at the top of the key. Why/how did that breakdown I cannot tell you, but it did. I guess I should call our AD and demand that he fire our coach immediately. It's the only thing to do.

[Exile on Waveland]

8-10 will still put Indiana in the tournament unfortunately. 7-11 would be a realllly interesting case. Say they lose in the 1st round of the BTT, they're still sitting at 20-12 with wins over 2 top 5 teams while playing in the best conference in the country, but...

 

That's incredibly unlikely of course, but it's fun to dream.

 

That would be a very interesting quandry. Overall, IU would still have a tournament-caliber resume, but they would have finished 4-10 their last fourteen Big Ten games. That would be pretty ugly. It might come down to who those last two wins were against. If those two wins are Northwestern and Iowa, it might be pretty difficult to rationalize including a team that has only beaten Iowa, Northwestern, Penn State, and North Carolina Central since January 5. However, if those two wins are Michigan State and Illinois/Purdue, well, then I'd think IU would be pretty worthy.

[Guest]

So ignore everything else the coach has done and focus on that one play? Kennedy did not call for Turner to go to the corner or to throw up a stupid shot like that. He was supposed to get the ball at the top of the key. Why/how did that breakdown I cannot tell you, but it did. I guess I should call our AD and demand that he fire our coach immediately. It's the only thing to do.

 

Yes, the clear implication being made is that Kennedy should have been fired before he left the floor last night, preferably with some sort of public flogging.

[SouthSideRyan]

8-10 will still put Indiana in the tournament unfortunately. 7-11 would be a realllly interesting case. Say they lose in the 1st round of the BTT, they're still sitting at 20-12 with wins over 2 top 5 teams while playing in the best conference in the country, but...

 

That's incredibly unlikely of course, but it's fun to dream.

 

That would be a very interesting quandry. Overall, IU would still have a tournament-caliber resume, but they would have finished 4-10 their last fourteen Big Ten games. That would be pretty ugly. It might come down to who those last two wins were against. If those two wins are Northwestern and Iowa, it might be pretty difficult to rationalize including a team that has only beaten Iowa, Northwestern, Penn State, and North Carolina Central since January 5. However, if those two wins are Michigan State and Illinois/Purdue, well, then I'd think IU would be pretty worthy.

 

I agree, please join with me in rooting for this outcome so we can view history.

[Old Style]

Well if he's not capable of coaching a basketball game, what other option is there?

[SouthSideRyan]

Luckily, Texas State is going to the SEC next year and won't have to deal with actual opponents in basketball.

[Smack]

8-10 will still put Indiana in the tournament unfortunately. 7-11 would be a realllly interesting case. Say they lose in the 1st round of the BTT, they're still sitting at 20-12 with wins over 2 top 5 teams while playing in the best conference in the country, but...

 

That's incredibly unlikely of course, but it's fun to dream.

 

That would be a very interesting quandry. Overall, IU would still have a tournament-caliber resume, but they would have finished 4-10 their last fourteen Big Ten games. That would be pretty ugly. It might come down to who those last two wins were against. If those two wins are Northwestern and Iowa, it might be pretty difficult to rationalize including a team that has only beaten Iowa, Northwestern, Penn State, and North Carolina Central since January 5. However, if those two wins are Michigan State and Illinois/Purdue, well, then I'd think IU would be pretty worthy.

 

I agree, please join with me in rooting for this outcome so we can view history.

 

They will also make history by going 4-10 down the stretch while still being ranked by the media poll.

[Exile on Waveland]

8-10 will still put Indiana in the tournament unfortunately. 7-11 would be a realllly interesting case. Say they lose in the 1st round of the BTT, they're still sitting at 20-12 with wins over 2 top 5 teams while playing in the best conference in the country, but...

 

That's incredibly unlikely of course, but it's fun to dream.

 

I was gonna say that it would take an incredible collapse to miss the tourney, but then I realized that they are 5-6 in the Big 10. Their schedule is fairly favorable the rest of the year. 5 home games vs. 3 road games, plus only 1 game left against a currently ranked team (home vs. MSU).

 

IU's Big Ten schedule has been brutal so far. Ohio State-Michigan State-Michigan-Wisconsin seem to be the best four teams, and IU has played six games against that group, with four on the road. Meaning, over half of IU's games have been against top-4 conference teams and over one-third of IU's games have been on the road against top-4 conference teams. For comparison, among the other middle-of-the-pack Big Ten teams, Pudue has played three games agains the top-4 (two at home); Illinois has played three (all at home); Minnesota has played two (both on the road); and Iowa has played four (two at home). IU is 2-0 at home against top-4 conference teams, but an unsurprising 0-4 on the road (Ohio State, Michigan State, and Michigan are all undefeated at home). Nor do things get easier Saturday when IU visits Purdue -- no easy place to play, much less for IU.

 

The rest of the Big Ten schedule, however, offers much more winnable games (obviously not to say IU will win all these games, or even necessarily should). Four of IU's last six games are at home. Only one of the last six games is against a top-4 conference opponent (at home to Michigan State). The two road games are Iowa and Minnesota (hey, I'd still bet on Iowa and Minnesota, but those aren't akin to trips to Columbus or East Lansing). I was hoping for 6-5 at this point and, if not for the awful Nebraska loss which IU just gave away, they'd be right there.

[gocubs2118]

Bracket Board has Illinois vs Iowa State on the 6-11 as well.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah5m9VzdXGLjdHRvaC1HUFZOZk5LSktzcDhjUHh0NHc&hl=en_US#gid=0

 

And then Creighton, it would be great to beat McDermott. He put us in basketball hell.

[abuck1220]

except then you'd have to watch doug mcdermott, a national player of the year candidate, who didn't even get recruited by HIS OWN FATHER to play at iowa state where he was the coach.

[abuck1220]

Well if he's not capable of coaching a basketball game, what other option is there?

 

run off to the SEC where you might be able to be respectable.