Cashner grabs last rotation spot (Confirmed 3/26, Silva out)

[Rob]

Carlos Silva is likely to be released to free up roster space.

 

This is the best part of all. Now release Koyie Hill and let's start the damn season.

 

Well, the BEST part of all would be getting something for the sack of crap, but I can live with a release.

 

Carlos Silva is probably not the best option for our 5th starter. As a team needing to make up some degree of ground for any hope at the playoffs, we need the upside play at #5. But let's not get out of hand here. Carlos Silva pitched well for us last year, to the tune of of 3.75 FIP and 3.90 xFIP. That's not to say he's particularly likely to repeat that, but he's certainly not without the potential to give us a decent number of league average innings. If there's a way to keep him around in the bullpen as a swingman without him being a negative clubhouse presence or the Cubs FO yanking one of our more deserving starters out of their spots to make room for him, I'd certainly like to see him stick around.

 

If those criteria cannot be met, I'll be sad we had to cut a valuable asset... not relieved to be rid of that "sack of crap."

[Rob]

I hope this is true and I also hope the Cubs show patience with him this season.

 

releasing silva would help here. it'd be great if there wasn't the risk that silva pitched well in a couple long relief outings and boom, cashner gets yanked out of the rotation.

 

but i have faith that quade is going to show patience. he seems to make solid decisions and not give a [expletive] if morons like kapman don't agree with him.

Even if Cashner crashes and burns, Coleman, Jackson, and Carpenter should all be ahead of Silva. Even if Silva could be an OK 5th starter, we have younger and better. It isn't too far down the road that Z and Demp leave town, and we shoulld be auditioning our guys for the future.

 

I'll probably agree on Carpenter, but Coleman is god awful and absolutely should not be in front of Silva. And reports have Jackson's velocity around 87 this spring and speculation is that he's injured.

[CubColtPacer]

Carlos Silva is likely to be released to free up roster space.

 

This is the best part of all. Now release Koyie Hill and let's start the damn season.

 

Well, the BEST part of all would be getting something for the sack of crap, but I can live with a release.

 

Carlos Silva is probably not the best option for our 5th starter. As a team needing to make up some degree of ground for any hope at the playoffs, we need the upside play at #5. But let's not get out of hand here. Carlos Silva pitched well for us last year, to the tune of of 3.75 FIP and 3.90 xFIP. That's not to say he's particularly likely to repeat that, but he's certainly not without the potential to give us a decent number of league average innings. If there's a way to keep him around in the bullpen as a swingman without him being a negative clubhouse presence or the Cubs FO yanking one of our more deserving starters out of their spots to make room for him, I'd certainly like to see him stick around.

 

If those criteria cannot be met, I'll be sad we had to cut a valuable asset... not relieved to be rid of that "sack of crap."

 

Silva actually said all the right things about potentially going to the bullpen. He seems to realize that his performance this spring left himself vulnerable to this.

 

I do think Hendry will not release Silva just yet for the reason he said on the broadcast yesterday. If you send somebody down to Iowa and decide to change your mind in 10-15 days then you can bring them back up. If you release somebody it's often not easy to get them back if you change your mind.

[haubrich91]

CarrieMuskat

#Cubs name Andrew Cashner 5th starter, Marcos Mateo to bullpen.

 

CarrieMuskat

#Cubs tell Carlos Silva they'll try to trade him, but if not, would like him to consider Minor Leagues so he can be insurance for team

 

Thank you, Mike Quade!

[davell]

Mike Quade is my favorite person of the day.

[davell]

Sullivan still tweeting Cubs responsible for all of Silva's salary, despite reports to the contrary. Of course they're the ones making payments to him, what they do with and how they account for the money the Mariners have or are sending is totally up to the Cubs.

[Banedon]

"I told Carlos Silva there was not a spot for him unless there's an injury between now and Opening Day," general manager Jim Hendry said. "We will explore trade opportunities with other clubs."

 

"We want Cashner to get the starts," Hendry said. "We feel good about his future."

[Cubs Fan Dan]

Wow this is a great day and makes me feel a hell of a lot better about who is running this team. We wont know if this is all Quades decision but kudos to whoever finally is trying to put the best pitching staff together. I realize Shark is still here but he probably wont kill us as a mop up. Edited March 26, 2011 by Cubs Fan Dan

[Little Slide Rooter]

I think that some pitching desperate team will take a chance on Silva assuming that they don't have to give up anything. Maybe a fringe prospect.

[Hall7810]

Sullivan still tweeting Cubs responsible for all of Silva's salary, despite reports to the contrary. Of course they're the ones making payments to him, what they do with and how they account for the money the Mariners have or are sending is totally up to the Cubs.

 

The Cubs would then release him and be responsible for the entire $11.5 million salary. Seattle, which traded Silva to the Cubs for Milton Bradley, would be responsible for the $2 million buyout on Silva's 2012 option. The Cubs used the $6 million surplus they received from Seattle in the trade to sign Marlon Byrd last year.

[Old Style]

PRAISE JEEBUS!!!!!

[PrimeTime]

Wow..They actually made a move that made the most logical sense and what we all hoped for..I am in disbelief.

[Cubs Fan Dan]

Had to know this was coming.

 

Per MLBTR

 

Cubs Will Try To Trade Carlos Silva

By Mike Axisa [March 26 at 1:28pm CST]

1:28pm: Silva says that there is "no chance" of him reporting to Iowa, tweets Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune. The soon-to-be 32-year-old added that he felt pitching coach Mark Riggins wasn't up front with him about how they planned to use him, Sullivan tweets.

 

Bye Bye Silva

[erik316wttn]

"I told Carlos Silva there was not a spot for him unless there's an injury between now and Opening Day," general manager Jim Hendry said. "We will explore trade opportunities with other clubs."

 

"We want Cashner to get the starts," Hendry said. "We feel good about his future."

 

Great, now Silva's probably going to kneecap him.

 

Seriously, though, I'm liking Quade more and more each day.

[Irrelevant Dude]

I am very pleasantly surprised. Someone in the organization actually has the foresight to look beyond the first month of the season. I didn't think it was possible.

[MWV]

"I told Carlos Silva there was not a spot for him unless there's an injury between now and Opening Day," general manager Jim Hendry said. "We will explore trade opportunities with other clubs."

 

"We want Cashner to get the starts," Hendry said. "We feel good about his future."

 

Great, now Silva's probably going to kneecap him.

 

Seriously, though, I'm liking Quade more and more each day.

 

Or just kill him:

 

"When you say something to me like: ‘You’re in the competition for the fifth-starter (spot)’ – I’m going to kill people for (it).”

[davell]

Sullivan still tweeting Cubs responsible for all of Silva's salary, despite reports to the contrary. Of course they're the ones making payments to him, what they do with and how they account for the money the Mariners have or are sending is totally up to the Cubs.

 

The Cubs would then release him and be responsible for the entire $11.5 million salary. Seattle, which traded Silva to the Cubs for Milton Bradley, would be responsible for the $2 million buyout on Silva's 2012 option. The Cubs used the $6 million surplus they received from Seattle in the trade to sign Marlon Byrd last year.

 

 

Where did that come from? The M's also sent 3.5 mill LAST year from the M's and Byrd's salary last year was 3 mill. I understand that it's all just a matter of accounting, maybe they're saying it like this to make it appear as if the current payroll is higher than it actually is?

[Illini Iceman]

Sullivan still tweeting Cubs responsible for all of Silva's salary, despite reports to the contrary. Of course they're the ones making payments to him, what they do with and how they account for the money the Mariners have or are sending is totally up to the Cubs.

 

The Cubs would then release him and be responsible for the entire $11.5 million salary. Seattle, which traded Silva to the Cubs for Milton Bradley, would be responsible for the $2 million buyout on Silva's 2012 option. The Cubs used the $6 million surplus they received from Seattle in the trade to sign Marlon Byrd last year.

 

 

Where did that come from? The M's also sent 3.5 mill LAST year from the M's and Byrd's salary last year was 3 mill. I understand that it's all just a matter of accounting, maybe they're saying it like this to make it appear as if the current payroll is higher than it actually is?

 

The quote makes no sense. If the Mariners paid $6M of Silva's salary this year and the Cubs spent it on Byrd they are still not paying $6M of Silva's salary. It's not like it only counts as salary relief if the owners take the money and put it in their pocket.

 

Also, the comments Silva made are exactly why it is best to do what they are doing and just cut him loose. He would be a cancer in the bulllpen and probably suck anyway. It will be interesting who will be the first guy that gets a shot if the Cubs have an injury and need a temporary starter. The way Quade is talking it sounds like he is high on Coleman.

[mookie]

Considering the attitude Silva is displaying, I am stoked him is about to be off of this team.

 

Once again, GO CASHNER!!!!

 

:yahoo:

[Bote McBoteface]

I admit I was busy and didn't watch much last year, but doesn't Coleman specialize in straight fastballs right down the middle?

[davell]

AZPhil shed some light on the Silva contract situation. The Mariners send 5.5 mill to the Cubs. Don't know when or if this has already happened or not.

 

But, the big caveat here is IF Silva is released, then the Cubs have to pay him his entire year's salary within 30 days from date of release. So, ponying up 11.5 mill at once is probably not exactly what they're hoping to have to do here.

[Butterscup1679666578]

This is actually the most excited I've been about anything the Cubs have done in a long time.

[Banedon]

Silva was surprised by the decision, saying he felt better in the bullpen of late. He was also critical of new Cubs pitching coach Mark Riggins, saying Riggins was "not straight" with him about plans.

 

"I was throwing my pen and feeling really good," he said. "And Riggins came to me and said 'What a day. That's a good day. Now go out there and do your workout and continue pitching like you are now.' And half an hour later, he calls me into the hall and starts talking to me. I like if you've got to say something, be straight. He has to learn he's in the big leagues now. There's no kids around here anymore... The way he laid it out, it was like, I don't know what he was trying to do.

 

"He was like 'Man, you've been throwing the ball good, you can pitch, all of that, blah, blah, blah. If you go out there to Triple-A and throw some games to continue building, to continue getting better... I was like, 'I don't need to go there. I'm ready to go. I feel good and I'[m ready to pitch.' Then he told me there was not going to be a spot in the rotation or in the bullpen either.

 

"He should've started with that first, and then say you're strong in the bullpen."

 

Silva said he's hopeful to be traded. He said he felt something "was going on" when they threw him in relief the day after the Cactus League break, which he called "weird." He said he knows what he can do, but after talking to Hendry, "it's very clear they think that I can't pitch anymore. It's very clear. This morning he said like, 'If you get traded and you get an opportunity to pitch for another team and you do good, then we're (screwed).' If he says that, it's because he doesn't think I can pitch. It's tough for anybody to say that.

 

"It's tough, for Jim or anybody to say that. It puts them in a bad situation to. Not only me, but they're in a bad situation. Like today they say, 'We don't know how Cashner is going to do.'... For me, Cashner is a very good pitcher and he's going to be great."

[sweetpeteman]

I admit I was busy and didn't watch much last year, but doesn't Coleman specialize in straight fastballs right down the middle?

 

 

He actually did pretty well as a starter (8 starts) towards the end of the season, posting a 3.33 ERA with a 1.356 WHIP and going at least 6 innings in all but the first one. His numbers are skewed due to giving up 6 ER over 2.1 innings in his first outing of the year (from the BP).

[Wilson A2000]

As much as I want to praise Quade for this, ultimately wasn't this Hendry's decision?