Cashner grabs last rotation spot (Confirmed 3/26, Silva out)

[NCCubFan]

As much as I want to praise Quade for this, ultimately wasn't this Hendry's decision?

As far as who's on the roster, yes. As far as who's in the rotation vs. the bullpen, no.

[Rob]

I admit I was busy and didn't watch much last year, but doesn't Coleman specialize in straight fastballs right down the middle?

 

 

He actually did pretty well as a starter (8 starts) towards the end of the season, posting a 3.33 ERA with a 1.356 WHIP and going at least 6 innings in all but the first one. His numbers are skewed due to giving up 6 ER over 2.1 innings in his first outing of the year (from the BP).

 

He also doesn't strike anybody out. Oh, and he walks too many people.

 

Basically all of his successful starts last year were lucky.

[MWV]

Silva felt the rotation competition was a sham (from Bruce Levine at ESPN.com):

 

"Don't say people are competing for a spot because it wasn't true. They already had their rotation down. It was very clear."

[ctcf]

Silva felt the rotation competition was a sham (from Bruce Levine at ESPN.com):

 

"Don't say people are competing for a spot because it wasn't true. They already had their rotation down. It was very clear."

 

Yes, it was clear because he sucked so hard.

 

That guy sounds like he has the maturity of a 13 year old.

[Derwood]

What a bitter douche

[davell]

No kidding. Take your damn ball and go home, Carlos. It's one thing to say that if you had put up a damn good spring and then get by-passed. But, when you pitch as poorly as Silva did, you've got nothing to stand on here whatsoever.

 

 

 

PS: I hope it had been decided, because it would mean our FO did something right.

[Northside Blues]

Silva felt the rotation competition was a sham (from Bruce Levine at ESPN.com):

 

"Don't say people are competing for a spot because it wasn't true. They already had their rotation down. It was very clear."

 

 

Let's hope Jim Hendry reads into this as a potential cancer in the clubhouse and rids ourselves of him.

[Northside Blues]

maybe i should read the entire thread not just the last page.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Silva felt the rotation competition was a sham (from Bruce Levine at ESPN.com):

 

"Don't say people are competing for a spot because it wasn't true. They already had their rotation down. It was very clear."

Really? Is he completely ignoring the fact that he was awful all spring training up until his last start vs. a weak lineup? And isn't this the same guy who claimed that he already had a rotation spot nailed down? Shut the hell up and collect your 8 million or whatever in unemployment.

[davell]

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/cbsports-cashner-struggles-after-being-named-cubs-starter-20110326,0,1259464.story

 

Quade speaking on why he picked Cashner over Silva.

[Bull]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but Silva was offered the opportunity to go to Iowa. Apparently he declined.

[Guest]

As much as I want to praise Quade for this, ultimately wasn't this Hendry's decision?

As far as who's on the roster, yes. As far as who's in the rotation vs. the bullpen, no.

This is all Q-man. Bravo! The last group of Cub managers would have kept Silva b/c of his veteran presence. Hendry usually lets his manager decide.

Edited March 27, 2011 by CubinNY

[A New Era]

A Cubs manager that is young player friendly and realizes potential and considers "building for the future" as being important?

 

When was the last time we had this? Quade you've got my support.

[JeffH]

Of course, Quade is almost certainly going to take Koyie Hill north.

 

Let's face it - he's just another Hendry stooge in the manager's uniform.

 

Until Ol' Punch Drunk gets the heave-ho, it will be business as usual.

[Sammy Sofa]

Most managers would break camp with Hill as the backup catcher.

 

Most general managers would have signed him back as the backup based on the "good with the pitchers/popular with the team" reputation, too.

 

If you want to pretend otherwise, feel free. Most front offices and managers and coaches aren't going to break a sweat over the backup catcher.

[davell]

Of course, Quade is almost certainly going to take Koyie Hill north.

 

Let's face it - he's just another Hendry stooge in the manager's uniform.

 

Until Ol' Punch Drunk gets the heave-ho, it will be business as usual.

 

I feel very confident that Quade is the only one between him, Dusty, or Lou that would have stuck with Cashner as far as the rotation spot went.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Most managers would break camp with Hill as the backup catcher.

 

Most general managers would have signed him back as the backup based on the "good with the pitchers/popular with the team" reputation, too.

 

If you want to pretend otherwise, feel free. Most front offices and managers and coaches aren't going to break a sweat over the backup catcher.

 

I know its a rarity, but you and seem to be the only ones who agree on this. A backup catcher is just that. Not a pinch hitter, but a lot of people dont get that. Dont get me wrong, Id like Max Ramirez on the team, but in place of Reed Johnson. Granted it was awful seeing Lou use Hill as a platoon player with Soto, but that wasnt Koyies fault anymore than the fact that Jim Hendry gave Aaron Miles a 5 million dollar deal was Aarons fault.

[davell]

Most managers would break camp with Hill as the backup catcher.

 

Most general managers would have signed him back as the backup based on the "good with the pitchers/popular with the team" reputation, too.

 

If you want to pretend otherwise, feel free. Most front offices and managers and coaches aren't going to break a sweat over the backup catcher.

 

I know its a rarity, but you and seem to be the only ones who agree on this. A backup catcher is just that. Not a pinch hitter, but a lot of people dont get that. Dont get me wrong, Id like Max Ramirez on the team, but in place of Reed Johnson. Granted it was awful seeing Lou use Hill as a platoon player with Soto, but that wasnt Koyies fault anymore than the fact that Jim Hendry gave Aaron Miles a 5 million dollar deal was Aarons fault.

 

Nah, I'm definitely with you guys on this one. And I think both of you agree with me when I say if Soto misses any time, then Castillo needs to be brought up and given the bulk of the time at that point.

 

I also agree that Ramirez should be on the team instead of Reed(beard be damned) but I think we'll stash him on the DL at least.

[Sammy Sofa]

Most managers would break camp with Hill as the backup catcher.

 

Most general managers would have signed him back as the backup based on the "good with the pitchers/popular with the team" reputation, too.

 

If you want to pretend otherwise, feel free. Most front offices and managers and coaches aren't going to break a sweat over the backup catcher.

 

I know its a rarity, but you and seem to be the only ones who agree on this. A backup catcher is just that. Not a pinch hitter, but a lot of people dont get that. Dont get me wrong, Id like Max Ramirez on the team, but in place of Reed Johnson. Granted it was awful seeing Lou use Hill as a platoon player with Soto, but that wasnt Koyies fault anymore than the fact that Jim Hendry gave Aaron Miles a 5 million dollar deal was Aarons fault.

 

Nah, I'm definitely with you guys on this one. And I think both of you agree with me when I say if Soto misses any time, then Castillo needs to be brought up and given the bulk of the time at that point.

 

I also agree that Ramirez should be on the team instead of Reed(beard be damned) but I think we'll stash him on the DL at least.

 

Agreed on both points.

[Rob]

Trying to tie together two topics here, but the fact that Quade went with Cashner over Silva makes me hopeful that he's smart enough to correctly handle Reed Johnson (ie, as the outfield Jeff Baker. Should avoid letting them face righties at all costs). If he is indeed smart enough to correctly utilize Reed Johnson, it may well prove Reed to be a more valuable player than Max Ramirez.

 

I've always been a big fan of speciality guys on the bench... whether they be lefty mashers, guys who pound high fastballs, top-notch defenders, etc... the trick is finding the specialty players that fill a void on your team. In the case of Reed Johnson, we could really use a lefty mashing OF to cover the deficiencies of Colvin and Fukudome in that regard.

 

If Quade was a moron who couldn't be trusted to push the right buttons, I'd take Max Ramirez in a heartbeat. But picking the right guy for 5th SP gives me hope that he picked the right guy for 5th OF as well.

[9YRPLAN]

perhaps silva should have got off his fat ass during the offseason and lost about 40 pounds and come into camp prepared to compete

[Bote McBoteface]

Can't wait til he signs with the cards to get even and continues sucking.

[Tracer Bullet]

Of course, Quade is almost certainly going to take Koyie Hill north.

 

Let's face it - he's just another Hendry stooge in the manager's uniform.

 

Until Ol' Punch Drunk gets the heave-ho, it will be business as usual.

 

this is getting so old

 

sorry, "has gotten"

[Cubfanintheknow]

Silva is scheduled to start on Monday against Cleveland. After his "I deserve better than this" rant, would you still let him go out and pitch? At this point, I'd tell him to pack his bags now and hope other teams see his last start as the pitcher he thinks he is.

[NCCubFan]

I'd let him start, hoping that a second straight good start might increase trade interest among other teams.