NCAA Tourney Mock Selection 2011

[Old Style]

Time to re-seed Illinois?

[bukie]

Time to re-seed Illinois?

They're not even seeded yet?

[Old Style]

Time to re-rank Illinois in their grouping?

[bukie]

Time to re-rank Illinois in their grouping?

The list is alphabetical. You have a weird bitterness going on right now.

[Old Style]

Time to re-rank Illinois in their grouping?

The list is alphabetical. You have a weird bitterness going on right now.

Just having a little fun with the discussion from earlier. I didn't see that you posted a new list for today to be ranked.

[bukie]

Rank the next set of S-Curve teams from 1-16 (Illinois reps leave out Illinois, of course):

 

West Virginia 

Arizona 

UNLV

Georgetown 

Cincinnati

Vanderbilt

Kansas State

St. John's 

Temple

Texas A&M

Xavier

Marquette

Florida State

Old Dominion

UCLA

 

 

2) Rank the remaining 15 at-larges. In the case of bid theft by non-at-large candidates, the lowest in this list will get bumped off the board.

 

Utah State

Washington

Villanova

George Mason

Missouri

Virginia Tech

Michigan State

Clemson

Saint Mary's

Michigan

Tennessee

Georgia

Richmond

Boston College

Colorado

 

 

3) Rank the bottom 12 auto-bids from the remaining unplaced bids, the aggregate bottom 8 of which will go into the bottom of the S-Curve.

 

58. MAC (Kent State)

57. Morehead State (OVC)

56. Big West (Long Beach State)

55. Wofford (Southern)

54. Oakland (Summit)

53. CUSA (UTEP)

52. Indiana State (MVC)

51. Ivy (Harvard)

50. Butler (Horizon)

49. Belmont (A-Sun)

48. Gonzaga (WCC)

47. ODU (Colonial)

 

[bukie]

Also, why in the hell is St. Mary's playing Weber State tonight? Is that for real?

[hawkeyecub]

Also, why in the hell is St. Mary's playing Weber State tonight? Is that for real?

 

Read about that. St. Mary's wants another win for their resume, Weber State agreed to it because this game will be the difference in allowing one of their best players to qualify for a medical redshirt. Without scheduling this he was below the benchmark.

[hawkeyecub]

Rank the next set of S-Curve teams from 1-16 (Illinois reps leave out Illinois, of course):

 

West Virginia

Arizona

Vanderbilt

Cincinnati

St. John's

Kansas State

UNLV

Georgetown

Texas A&M

Xavier

Temple

Marquette

UCLA

Old Dominion

Florida State

Illinois

 

 

 

2) Rank the remaining 15 at-larges. In the case of bid theft by non-at-large candidates, the lowest in this list will get bumped off the board.

 

Utah State

Washington

Villanova

George Mason

Missouri

Michigan State

Virginia Tech

Tennessee

Clemson

Michigan

Colorado

Saint Mary's

Georgia

Richmond

Boston College

 

 

3) Rank the bottom 12 auto-bids from the remaining unplaced bids, the aggregate bottom 8 of which will go into the bottom of the S-Curve.

 

58. Wofford (Southern)

57. MAC (Kent State)

56. Big West (Long Beach State)

55. Morehead State (OVC)

54. Indiana State (MVC)

53. CUSA (UTEP)

52. Oakland (Summit)

51. Ivy (Harvard)

50. Belmont (A-Sun)

49. Butler (Horizon)

48. Gonzaga (WCC)

47. ODU (Colonial)

 

[bukie]

Any more than 3 lists coming?

[bukie]

Updated S-Curve (1-28, 51-68):

 

1. Ohio State

2. Kansas

3. Pittsburgh

4. Duke

5. Notre Dame

6. Purdue

7. Texas

8. BYU

9. Wisconsin

10. North Carolina

11. Syracuse

12. San Diego State

13. Florida

14. Louisville

15. Connecticut

16. Kentucky

17. West Virginia

18. Arizona

19. Georgetown

20. UNLV

21. St. John's

22. Cincinnati

23. Vanderbilt

24. Kansas State

25. Temple

26. Xavier

27. Texas A&M

28. Marquette

...

51. Ivy (Harvard)*

52. Memphis (CUSA)

53. Indiana State (Mo Valley)

54. Oakland (Summit)

55. Big West (Long Beach St)*

56. Morehead State (OVC)

57. Wofford (SoCon)

58. MAC (Kent State)*

59. Bucknell (Patriot)

60. St. Peter's (MAAC)

61. Northern Colorado (Big Sky)

62. Long Island (NEC)

63. UNC-Asheville (Big South)

64. Boston University (America East)

65. Southland (McNeese State)

66. Arkansas-Little Rock (Sun Belt)

67. Hampton (MEAC)

68. SWAC (Alcorn State)

 

 

Remaining 22 teams to be placed:

 

Belmont*

Boston College

Butler*

Clemson

Colorado

Florida State

George Mason

Georgia

Gonzaga*

Illinois

Michigan

Michigan State

Missouri

Old Dominion*

Richmond

Saint Mary's

Tennessee

UCLA

Utah State

Villanova

Virginia Tech

Washington

 

 

Pod placement:

 

1. Ohio State - Cleveland, OH

2. Kansas - Tulsa, OK

3. Pittsburgh - Washington, DC

4. Duke - Charlotte, NC

5. Notre Dame - Chicago, IL

6. Purdue - Chicago, IL

7. Texas - Tulsa, OK

8. BYU - Denver, CO

9. Wisconsin - Cleveland, OH

10. North Carolina - Charlotte, NC

11. Syracuse - Washington, DC

12. San Diego State - Tucson, AZ

13. Florida - Tampa, FL

14. Louisville - Tampa, FL

15. Connecticut - Denver, CO

16. Kentucky - Tucson, AZ

 

 

Bottom of the at-large pool (alpha): Boston College, Colorado, Richmond

Edited March 12, 2011 by bukie

[bukie]

For today:

1) Rank the remaining 22 unplaced teams. As bids become "stolen", the bottom of the at-large pool will be replaced accordingly. Potentially 4 bids can still be stolen (ACC, B12, MWC, P10, BE only have teams already in the field remaining).

 

2) Start building the bracket. This can be done in discussion. We'll start with the top 16 and bottom 18, making sure there are no geographical disadvantages for the better seeds in the first round, and that seeding follows conference rules for the first two rounds.

Edited March 12, 2011 by bukie

[bukie]

Well, at least we don't have to worry about Memphis getting an undeserved at-large bid.

[bukie]

Kentucky defeated Alabama, denying another bid theft.

 

Remaining potential bid thieves:

Atlantic 10: Dayton

Big Ten: Penn State (they're not in the field right now)

WAC: Boise State

[bukie]

Hampton makes it official in the MEAC.

[bukie]

Anybody have any opinions on the following teams, and/or passing current at-large candidates in the field?

 

Alabama, Harvard, Missouri State, New Mexico, Penn State, USC, VCU, Washington State

 

To me, Penn State, USC, VCU and New Mexico have decent arguments, but I'm up for discussion.

[Andy]

My list of the 22 at-larges:

 

 

Remaining 22 teams to be placed:

1 - Florida State

2 - Illinois

3 - Old Dominion

4 - UCLA

5 - Tennessee

6 - Washington

7 - Missouri

8 - Gonzaga

9 - Villanova

10 - Utah State

11 - George Mason

12 - Michigan

13 - Michigan State

14 - Colorado

15 - Virginia Tech

16 - Belmont

17 - Richmond

18 - Saint Mary's

19 - Butler

20 - Clemson

21 - Georgia

22 - Boston College

 

[Andy]

Are we sure Purdue should remain a 2 seed? Lunardi has them down to a 4 and I think most of the other bracketologists have joined him.

[Andy]

If we start from the bottom up and the top down with the S-Curve, here are the 1-16 matchups:

East Regional

Cleveland OH

1 Ohio State vs 16 Alcorn State*/Hampton

 

Southwest Regional

Tulsa, OK

1 Kansas vs 16 McNeese St*/Arkansas-Little Rock

 

Southeast Regional

Washington, DC

1 Pittsburgh vs 16 UNC-Asheville

 

West Regional

Charlotte, NC

1 Duke vs 16 Boston University

 

I switched around BU and UNC-Asheville so as not to nullify Duke's pod advantage with UNC-Asheville.

[bukie]

Are we sure Purdue should remain a 2 seed? Lunardi has them down to a 4 and I think most of the other bracketologists have joined him.

I think it's a knee-jerk reaction based on two games. Bracketologists in general get way too caught up in conference tournament results.

[bukie]

Princeton takes the Ivy bid at the buzzer.

[bukie]

I think the PSU win should slide them at least past the bottom at-large team currently in our field.

[bukie]

San Diego State throttles BYU to win the Mountain West. I'm tempted to swap them in the S-Curve, especially considering BYU is short a key player.

[bukie]

Washington wins the Pac-10 tournament.

[Guest]

Here's my ranking of the last 22. It really becomes a nightmarish web with how many times these teams played each other.

 

 

Illinois

Washington

Florida State

Villanova

Michigan State

Colorado

Old Dominion

Richmond

Tennessee

Virginia Tech

Michigan

Gonzaga

St. Mary's

UCLA

Clemson

George Mason

Butler

Utah State

Georgia

Boston College

Belmont