SUPERBOWL XLV

[SouthSideRyan]

your sig is Rodgers doing a picture perfect Favre impression

 

Throwing an interception?

[minnesotacubsfan]

well, you've certainly swayed me.

 

But he watches the games. His eyes wouldn't deceive him, would they?

 

funny, that was sneakys exact reasoning behind his link.

 

Bishop is good, but among the best? I dont buy it. Best of the second tier maybe.

[minnesotacubsfan]

your sig is Rodgers doing a picture perfect Favre impression

 

Throwing an interception?

 

HOLD ME CLOSER TINY DANCER

[Keener98]

man Rodgers is a giant douche.

 

I'm curious to hear your explanation, because by all accounts he's a nice guy. He doesn't get in trouble, he doesn't have 12 children running around, he's not whoring himself out to the media. If you want to let loose on Favre for being a douchebag, go right ahead, but Rodgers really has not done anything deserving of douchedom.

 

There is 2 pics and a gif that explain how hes a douche all on their own on the page u made this post. No other explanation needed really.

 

Definition of douche is "The term usually refers to a person, usually male, with a variety of negative qualities, specifically arrogance and engaging in obnoxious and/or irritating actions, most often without malicious intent."

 

Sounds about perfect in describing Rodgers

Edited February 8, 2011 by Keener98

[Flames24Rulz]

well, you've certainly swayed me.

 

But he watches the games. His eyes wouldn't deceive him, would they?

 

funny, that was sneakys exact reasoning behind his link.

 

Bishop is good, but among the best? I dont buy it. Best of the second tier maybe.

 

I don't think he's first-tier good either, but the dude was pretty awesome this season.

[sneakypower]

well, you've certainly swayed me.

 

But he watches the games. His eyes wouldn't deceive him, would they?

 

funny, that was sneakys exact reasoning behind his link.

not really, they break down every single play and assess grades to each individual player for every snap, which is quite a bit different than just eyeballing it, i'd have to say

[minnesotacubsfan]

who cares? they're wrong about Bishop. They also say Forte is a top 3 back, which I dont buy either.

[JonJayCutler]

They also say Forte is a top 3 back, which I dont buy either.

 

Me either, but after the year he had running behind that line, he has to be top 10 easily. I suppose if you consider his receiving abilities out of the backfield you could make a case for top 5.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I think he's top 10 with his receiving abilities. he has to many runs where he hits the line and stops. once he gets to the edge, he's phenomenal.

[JonJayCutler]

he has to many runs where he hits the line and stops. once he gets to the edge, he's phenomenal.

 

Which is largely a reflection of the Bears poor OL. Imagine how good he'd be if he had even an average line in front him.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'd rather just witness it then imagine it. but, we got the Angelo Clown Posse leading us. so...

[sneakypower]

They also say Forte is a top 3 back, which I dont buy either.

 

Me either, but after the year he had running behind that line, he has to be top 10 easily. I suppose if you consider his receiving abilities out of the backfield you could make a case for top 5.

he was ranked their 6th-best RB for the season

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/01/21/undercover-mvps-matt-forte/

 

i'd like to hear specifically what of that write-up you disagree with, minny

[Banedon]

They also say Forte is a top 3 back, which I dont buy either.

 

Me either, but after the year he had running behind that line, he has to be top 10 easily. I suppose if you consider his receiving abilities out of the backfield you could make a case for top 5.

he was ranked their 6th-best RB for the season

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/01/21/undercover-mvps-matt-forte/

 

i'd like to hear specifically what of that write-up you disagree with, minny

 

He said he's not a top 3 back. Your link says he's ranked 6th. What exactly is the point you're trying to make?

[minnesotacubsfan]

6 is about the highest I would think of him. Your earlier post suggested they thought he could have been a top 3.

 

I think the first article you posted is just their way of rebuking the Pro Bowl entries, and maybe we are making too much of it to say they actually believe Bishop is among the very best. I think they were really just saying his play should have earned him a Pro Bowl appearance, which there is an argument for. But I don't think they believe either Forte or Bishop will continue to be at that level or have been enough to be the very best in the league.

[sneakypower]

They also say Forte is a top 3 back, which I dont buy either.

 

Me either, but after the year he had running behind that line, he has to be top 10 easily. I suppose if you consider his receiving abilities out of the backfield you could make a case for top 5.

he was ranked their 6th-best RB for the season

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/01/21/undercover-mvps-matt-forte/

 

i'd like to hear specifically what of that write-up you disagree with, minny

 

He said he's not a top 3 back. Your link says he's ranked 6th. What exactly is the point you're trying to make?

i was clarifying Minny's mix-up, their specifics actually line up well with my perceptions of Forte (middle of the road runner, great in pass pro, catching)

[minnesotacubsfan]

They also say Forte is a top 3 back, which I dont buy either.

 

Me either, but after the year he had running behind that line, he has to be top 10 easily. I suppose if you consider his receiving abilities out of the backfield you could make a case for top 5.

he was ranked their 6th-best RB for the season

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/01/21/undercover-mvps-matt-forte/

 

i'd like to hear specifically what of that write-up you disagree with, minny

 

He said he's not a top 3 back. Your link says he's ranked 6th. What exactly is the point you're trying to make?

i was clarifying Minny's mix-up, their specifics actually line up well with my perceptions of Forte (middle of the road runner, great in pass pro, catching)

 

unless they make their claim anywhere else, this is the only place I see them saying Bishop is all world (and Forte is "top 3"):

 

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/01/26/nfc-pro-bowl-who-you-should-have-been-watching-or-not-watching-in-hawaii/

 

Granted, they have another article stating they really believe Forte is a top 6 back. That leads me to believe that your assessment of Bishop being "among the very best" is only based on your own eyes and an article written to rebuke the 2010 Pro Bowl selections. But I don't think that is solid proof. there are other portions of the website I cant access (I get a malicious website warning when I try to go into the "top players by rankings" area), but to say Bishop is "among the very best" is to me hyperbole.

[sneakypower]

to be clear, i specifically said Bishop, et al. "were amongst the very best players at their respective positions this year"

 

there's really no way of knowing how most players will perform year to year, so it's mostly futile to prognosticate about it (who really expected Forte's huge rebound, or Pace's breakdown?)

 

also, fwiw, that Pro Bowl article was updated throughout the season and Bishop was a fixture on the list most of the year

[minnesotacubsfan]

I guess my chagrin in this came from the assertion that the packers had all pros at every position and were likely to repeat multiple times. To that, I wanted to point out the parity that exists in the NFL as pointed out by the fact that relative unknowns can often play a season at a very high level. But that doesn't guarantee any lingering success. It just felt like your arguments were placing the Packers at the elite-abandon-all-hope-for competing-with-them levels.

 

Bishop had a good year. It is their opinion that he should have gone to the Pro-Bowl.

 

we can agree on that, cant we?

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

man Rodgers is a giant douche.

 

I'm curious to hear your explanation, because by all accounts he's a nice guy. He doesn't get in trouble, he doesn't have 12 children running around, he's not whoring himself out to the media. If you want to let loose on Favre for being a douchebag, go right ahead, but Rodgers really has not done anything deserving of douchedom.

 

There is 2 pics and a gif that explain how hes a douche all on their own on the page u made this post. No other explanation needed really.

 

Definition of douche is "The term usually refers to a person, usually male, with a variety of negative qualities, specifically arrogance and engaging in obnoxious and/or irritating actions, most often without malicious intent."

 

Sounds about perfect in describing Rodgers

 

Oh man he's excited because he won the Super Bowl, that makes him a MAJOR DOUCHEBAG.

[sneakypower]

I guess my chagrin in this came from the assertion that the packers had all pros at every position and were likely to repeat multiple times. To that, I wanted to point out the parity that exists in the NFL as pointed out by the fact that relative unknowns can often play a season at a very high level. But that doesn't guarantee any lingering success. It just felt like your arguments were placing the Packers at the elite-abandon-all-hope-for competing-with-them levels.

 

Bishop had a good year. It is their opinion that he should have gone to the Pro-Bowl.

 

we can agree on that, cant we?

well i never went so far as to make any guarantees, nor would i, let's just say if i could trade rosters and front office with any other franchise right now, it'd be the Packers*

 

*though i do (finally) like the direction the Lions are headed

[dew1679666265]

*though i do (finally) like the direction the Lions are headed

 

I'm a little disappointed Bud Adams didn't back up the money truck to hire Schwartz away from Detroit when he fired Fisher. I'd be more disappointed if I thought there was any possibility that might have happened.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Detroit actually worries me. I think they could really pick up steam

[sneakypower]

i never heard so much as a peep about it dew, i'd be surprised if it was at all considered

[dew1679666265]

i never heard so much as a peep about it dew, i'd be surprised if it was at all considered

 

I wouldn't expect that it was even considered. I'd have loved it, though. Bud wanted Munchak from day one.

[dew1679666265]

Detroit actually worries me. I think they could really pick up steam

 

If Stafford can stay healthy for a full season, they could be a playoff team within the next year or two.