2011 NFL Draft Thread

[davell]

Locker apparently really stunk today. The guy that runs Walterfootball said he's thinking about dropping him into the 2nd round.

Wasn't he considered all but a lock to be a top-5 pick last season, or am I remembering wrong?

 

 

He was potentially the top overall pick.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

That's what I was thinking and is why I watched a couple of his games this year. I wasn't at all impressed.

[davell]

GBNReport's senior bowl coverage's wins and losers are slightly different than what we're seeing at WalterFootball as far as how everything went over the course of the week.

 

Winners- DT Phil Taylor, OG Danny Watkins, OG/C John Moffit, OG/OT Marcus Gilbert, WR Leonard Hankerson, WR Greg Salas, RB Kendall Hunter, TE Lance Kendricks, DT Christian Ballard, CB Jalil Brown

 

Honorable Mentions- Titus Young, Vince Brown, Austin Pettis, Niles Paul, and Dwayne Harris are the WR's. Stark contrast from Walter's saying Young is now a 1st round type at least......

 

TE's Lee Smith and Luke Stocker, DT's Javoris Jenkins A and Sione Fua, LB's Mason Foster and Kelvin Sheppard, and DB Marcus Gilchrest.

 

Best overall player was Cameron Jordan. Allen Bailey showed up 12-15 pounds lighter and wasn't very effective. Von Miller was at a disadvantage because he's a 3/4 guy and they played 4/3.

 

They still said Locker was clearly the best QB there, just was very inconsistent. Kaepernick and Ponder showed flashes but are both projects. Stanzi was slow to get the ball off all week.

 

The two sites assessment on the O-linemen worth talking about were basically the same. None hurt themselves, Carimi may be looked at as a LT, Castonzo was very consistent, Solder has tons of upside. Sherrod was pretty good. None established themselves as the top guy here.

[Banedon]

PFT thinks Kaepernick might get himself into the first round with his performance, comparing him to Jay Cutler in that Cutler made a huge move with his senior bowl week.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/27/colin-kaepernick-may-be-making-cutler-like-climb/

[hawkeyecub]

Wes Bunting seemed to have different impressions on the QB's.

[Andy]

That's what I was thinking and is why I watched a couple of his games this year. I wasn't at all impressed.

I have never been impressed with him, and I'm not sure how he ever started getting hyped in the first place. His only real selling point is that he has the physical build to potentially be a good NFL quarterback. He possesses no other skills that would make him one.

[Guest]

There's been a rumor going around a few Pac-10 team message boards that Locker was never given a first round grade last year (let alone potentially being the top pick overall) and that's why he returned for his redshirt senior year.

[Guest]

Latest Walterfootball mock has Bears with Castonzo, Austin, Dwayne Harris WR from ECU and KJ Wright, OLB from Miss St.

 

Interesting notes: Ttitus Young up to the 26th pick, Cameron Heyward's stock not being affected, and Paea dropping to the 53rd pick.

 

The 5 guys being picked right after Castonzo are Liuget, Wilkerson, Pouncey, Wisniewski, and Martez Wilson.

 

The 5 guys picked right after Austin are Danny Watkins, Dowling, Marcus Cannon, Deandre McDaniel, and Johnny Patrick(CB from Lousville)

 

The WR corps thins out VERY early at this point, with Hankerson and Baldwin both going off the board by the 41st pick, making it extremely tough for us to nab a solid WR with where we're picking, unless we want to reach for one in the 1st instead of taking solid value with the OLine at the same spot.

 

1. Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

2. DaQuan Bowers, DE, Clemson

3. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU

4. AJ Green, WR, Georgia

5. Von Miller, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (wow)

6. Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama

7. Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska

8. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina

9. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado (wow)

10. Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri

11. Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

12. Jake Locker, QB, Washington

13. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA

14. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama

15. Cam Newton, QB, Auburn

16. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue

17. Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal

18. Cameron Heyward, DE/DT, Ohio State

19. Tyron Smith, OT, USC

20. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa

21. Justin Houston, DE/OLB, Georgia

22. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State

23. Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

24. JJ Watt, DE, Wisconsin

25. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami

26. Titus Young, WR, Boise State

27. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland

28. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama

29. Who would you go with? They gave the Bears Anthony Castonzo. It would be tough to pass on Corey Liuget or Mike Pouncey.

[dew1679666265]

Wes Bunting seemed to have different impressions on the QB's.

 

Yeah, he doesn't like Kaepernick (late round guy who probably won't be an effective starter) or Locker. He really liked Stanzi in the Senior Bowl practices, though.

 

I keep hearing people talk highly of Andy Dalton as well. He's very intriguing.

[dew1679666265]

I now have no idea whatsoever who the Titans will draft. I was hearing they really liked Locker, but I would expect whoever the new coach is to be less thrilled with him. With the roster makeup the way it is, though, I have to think QB will be addressed in one of the first two rounds.

[Banedon]

Don Banks first mock draft is out.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/01/27/2011-nfl-mock-draft/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

 

Castonzo at #13?

[Soul]

I now have no idea whatsoever who the Titans will draft. I was hearing they really liked Locker, but I would expect whoever the new coach is to be less thrilled with him. With the roster makeup the way it is, though, I have to think QB will be addressed in one of the first two rounds.

 

Not where they currently are. What about trading down and taking Locker, though? Might feel more comfortable if they could take him lower.

[rawaction]

Latest Walterfootball mock has Bears with Castonzo, Austin, Dwayne Harris WR from ECU and KJ Wright, OLB from Miss St.

 

Interesting notes: Ttitus Young up to the 26th pick, Cameron Heyward's stock not being affected, and Paea dropping to the 53rd pick.

 

The 5 guys being picked right after Castonzo are Liuget, Wilkerson, Pouncey, Wisniewski, and Martez Wilson.

 

The 5 guys picked right after Austin are Danny Watkins, Dowling, Marcus Cannon, Deandre McDaniel, and Johnny Patrick(CB from Lousville)

 

The WR corps thins out VERY early at this point, with Hankerson and Baldwin both going off the board by the 41st pick, making it extremely tough for us to nab a solid WR with where we're picking, unless we want to reach for one in the 1st instead of taking solid value with the OLine at the same spot.

 

1. Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

2. DaQuan Bowers, DE, Clemson

3. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU

4. AJ Green, WR, Georgia

5. Von Miller, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (wow)

6. Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama

7. Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska

8. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina

9. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado (wow)

10. Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri

11. Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

12. Jake Locker, QB, Washington

13. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA

14. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama

15. Cam Newton, QB, Auburn

16. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue

17. Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal

18. Cameron Heyward, DE/DT, Ohio State

19. Tyron Smith, OT, USC

20. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa

21. Justin Houston, DE/OLB, Georgia

22. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State

23. Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

24. JJ Watt, DE, Wisconsin

25. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami

26. Titus Young, WR, Boise State

27. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland

28. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama

29. Who would you go with? They gave the Bears Anthony Castonzo. It would be tough to pass on Corey Liuget or Mike Pouncey.

 

Liuget pretty easily. I don't think Pouncey is that much beter than Cannon or Ijalana or even Moffitt at this point that you have to take Pouncey in the 1st over waiting for 1 of these guys in the 2nd.

[Rex Buckingham]

Liuget pretty easily. I don't think Pouncey is that much beter than Cannon or Ijalana or even Moffitt at this point that you have to take Pouncey in the 1st over waiting for 1 of these guys in the 2nd.

 

I think Liuget could eventually be the good version of Tommie Harris

[sneakypower]

Don Banks first mock draft is out.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/01/27/2011-nfl-mock-draft/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

 

Castonzo at #13?

kinda dumb, our pass protection was one of the best in the league but people assumed since Stafford got hurt, it must have been abysmal

 

i'll take a new RG though

[dew1679666265]

I now have no idea whatsoever who the Titans will draft. I was hearing they really liked Locker, but I would expect whoever the new coach is to be less thrilled with him. With the roster makeup the way it is, though, I have to think QB will be addressed in one of the first two rounds.

 

Not where they currently are. What about trading down and taking Locker, though? Might feel more comfortable if they could take him lower.

 

The interest level in Locker will probably depend on the new coaching staff. I was hearing Fisher and his scouts were high on Locker, but if Munchak is the new coach, I don't know if he's as high on Locker. With each passing day I'm warming up more and more to the idea of filling a defensive need with the 8th pick and taking Devlin/Stanzi/Dalton/Kaepernick in the second round.

[Guest]

If you're not sure about the 1st round QBs (and I'm not), that's the best strategy.

[dew1679666265]

If you're not sure about the 1st round QBs (and I'm not), that's the best strategy.

 

The biggest reason I'm leaning that way is because I just don't see a clear difference between the first round guys and the second group. Newton and Gabbert are very intriguing, though.

[shnsajax]

If you're not sure about the 1st round QBs (and I'm not), that's the best strategy.

 

The biggest reason I'm leaning that way is because I just don't see a clear difference between the first round guys and the second group. Newton and Gabbert are very intriguing, though.

 

After Vince Young do you want to draft Newton? Obviously the new head coach would actually have to want Newton which would be different than Fisher with Young but still it seems a little redundant.

[dew1679666265]

After Vince Young do you want to draft Newton? Obviously the new head coach would actually have to want Newton which would be different than Fisher with Young but still it seems a little redundant.

 

I don't know that Fisher would have ok'd taking Newton, but all mobile QBs are not the same. Vince's problem is that he doesn't have the work ethic or study habits to be a good NFL QB. If Newton is willing to do those things (I don't know either way), he'd be more successful than VY was.

 

Purely on body type and physical abilities, Newton reminds me more of Steve McNair than Vince anyway. And I'd take another McNair in a heartbeat. Big Ben's another good comparison in body type and physical abilities, I think.

[davell]

Latest Walterfootball mock has Bears with Castonzo, Austin, Dwayne Harris WR from ECU and KJ Wright, OLB from Miss St.

 

Interesting notes: Ttitus Young up to the 26th pick, Cameron Heyward's stock not being affected, and Paea dropping to the 53rd pick.

 

The 5 guys being picked right after Castonzo are Liuget, Wilkerson, Pouncey, Wisniewski, and Martez Wilson.

 

The 5 guys picked right after Austin are Danny Watkins, Dowling, Marcus Cannon, Deandre McDaniel, and Johnny Patrick(CB from Lousville)

 

The WR corps thins out VERY early at this point, with Hankerson and Baldwin both going off the board by the 41st pick, making it extremely tough for us to nab a solid WR with where we're picking, unless we want to reach for one in the 1st instead of taking solid value with the OLine at the same spot.

 

1. Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

2. DaQuan Bowers, DE, Clemson

3. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU

4. AJ Green, WR, Georgia

5. Von Miller, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (wow)

6. Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama

7. Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska

8. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina

9. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado (wow)

10. Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri

11. Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

12. Jake Locker, QB, Washington

13. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA

14. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama

15. Cam Newton, QB, Auburn

16. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue

17. Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal

18. Cameron Heyward, DE/DT, Ohio State

19. Tyron Smith, OT, USC

20. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa

21. Justin Houston, DE/OLB, Georgia

22. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State

23. Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

24. JJ Watt, DE, Wisconsin

25. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami

26. Titus Young, WR, Boise State

27. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland

28. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama

29. Who would you go with? They gave the Bears Anthony Castonzo. It would be tough to pass on Corey Liuget or Mike Pouncey.

 

 

I'd honestly go with either Castonzo, Pouncey, or maybe even Wisniewski. I'm not going to take Liuget there if I think there's a shot at getting Paea later on in the 2nd round, even if it means giving up a 5th or so to move up a few spots to do it.

[Old Style]

5. Von Miller, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (wow)

Dude is a stud and has been blowing up even more at the Senior Bowl practices. Dick Butkus thinks Von is pretty good, too.

 

http://assets.mediaspanonline.com/prod/5535472/120810millerbutkus_w300.jpg

[Guest]

Latest Walterfootball mock has Bears with Castonzo, Austin, Dwayne Harris WR from ECU and KJ Wright, OLB from Miss St.

 

Interesting notes: Ttitus Young up to the 26th pick, Cameron Heyward's stock not being affected, and Paea dropping to the 53rd pick.

 

The 5 guys being picked right after Castonzo are Liuget, Wilkerson, Pouncey, Wisniewski, and Martez Wilson.

 

The 5 guys picked right after Austin are Danny Watkins, Dowling, Marcus Cannon, Deandre McDaniel, and Johnny Patrick(CB from Lousville)

 

The WR corps thins out VERY early at this point, with Hankerson and Baldwin both going off the board by the 41st pick, making it extremely tough for us to nab a solid WR with where we're picking, unless we want to reach for one in the 1st instead of taking solid value with the OLine at the same spot.

 

1. Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

2. DaQuan Bowers, DE, Clemson

3. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU

4. AJ Green, WR, Georgia

5. Von Miller, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (wow)

6. Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama

7. Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska

8. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina

9. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado (wow)

10. Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri

11. Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

12. Jake Locker, QB, Washington

13. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA

14. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama

15. Cam Newton, QB, Auburn

16. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue

17. Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal

18. Cameron Heyward, DE/DT, Ohio State

19. Tyron Smith, OT, USC

20. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa

21. Justin Houston, DE/OLB, Georgia

22. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State

23. Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

24. JJ Watt, DE, Wisconsin

25. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami

26. Titus Young, WR, Boise State

27. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland

28. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama

29. Who would you go with? They gave the Bears Anthony Castonzo. It would be tough to pass on Corey Liuget or Mike Pouncey.

 

 

I'd honestly go with either Castonzo, Pouncey, or maybe even Wisniewski. I'm not going to take Liuget there if I think there's a shot at getting Paea later on in the 2nd round, even if it means giving up a 5th or so to move up a few spots to do it.

 

If that's your strategy, I'd see if you could trade down. You can get good guards in the top half of the second round.

[ELCABALLO45]

I think the Vikings are going QB at 12, fwiw. And I think they go Locker as well.

[shnsajax]

I think the Vikings are going QB at 12, fwiw. And I think they go Locker as well.

 

They would be better off going for Vince Young.