Bears game 14: Monday Dec 20, at MIN (TCF)

[jersey cubs fan]

Angelo is HORRIBLE at drafting

 

Agreed. For the most part. Every once in a while he finds a hidden gem but you know what they say about the blind squirrel.

 

In the last 4 drafts, Angelo has drafted 4 offensive starters (Knox 6th-09, Forte 2nd-08, Webb 7th-10, and Williams 1st-08), and 0 defensive starters. That's not a great hit rate, considering Webb is only starting by default, Williams has been an inconsistent player starting to hear the bust word thrown around. Knox went to a pro bowl (as a returner) and has promise so that's fantastic for a 6th round pick, and Forte is a solid RB which is what you should get for an early 2nd round pick.

 

The defense was built this way:

 

Pre-Angelo Draft: Urlacher

Pre-07 Angelo Draft: Briggs, Tillman, Manning, Harris (re-acquired via FA)

Free Agency: Jennings, Toeaina, Tinoisamoa, Idonije, Peppers, Adams

 

Bennett, Melton, Wooten, Moore and Wright have all contributed. Bowman has shown flashes. He's missed where the blue chips are needed, the first round. And he traded for Cutler with 2 of those picks.

[jersey cubs fan]

what is the point of discussing NFL payrolls? You buy your way to victory in MLB. NFL is all about drafting and getting the most out of cheap guys and knowing when to let your old expensive guys go.

[davell]

what is the point of discussing NFL payrolls? You buy your way to victory in MLB. NFL is all about drafting and getting the most out of cheap guys and knowing when to let your old expensive guys go.

 

I agree with this statement basically. It's obvious you don't BUILD from FA, by any stretch. But, as a fan, you like to know that your owner will go out and "buy" you the occasional piece, when needed. It wouldn't upset me at all if we added a starting O-Lineman(or two) or maybe even a veteran WR in FA this offseason.

 

There have been times in the past where I've been pissed we missed out on someone, but I don't think we've got too much to complain about here either. I'm glad we don't take the Washington or Dallas approach.

[jersey cubs fan]

what is the point of discussing NFL payrolls? You buy your way to victory in MLB. NFL is all about drafting and getting the most out of cheap guys and knowing when to let your old expensive guys go.

 

I agree with this statement basically. It's obvious you don't BUILD from FA, by any stretch. But, as a fan, you like to know that your owner will go out and "buy" you the occasional piece, when needed. It wouldn't upset me at all if we added a starting O-Lineman(or two) or maybe even a veteran WR in FA this offseason.

 

There have been times in the past where I've been pissed we missed out on someone, but I don't think we've got too much to complain about here either. I'm glad we don't take the Washington or Dallas approach.

 

Chicago has been in on a fairly large amount of free agent spending this past decade, plus they had about a 2-3 year spending spree just keeping all the stars that made the 2006 defense great. Their ownership gets unfairly ridiculed for not whoring out the team more than they do. The Redskins model sucks, while the Cowboys is quite flawed.

[hawkeyecub]

Biggs corrected himself. Henderson was blocked off and came back on to chase Hester after he was already gone.

 

How was that not his first thought?

 

Especially when it was pretty easy to tell it was #50 and not #56

[JonJayCutler]

Weekly ESPN Power Ranking Rant:

 

So the Bears beat the Eagles a few weeks back and move from 12th to 7th. Awesome. Finally.

 

The next week they post an uninspiring victory over the Lions. They drop to 8th. OK that's fine.

 

Next they play at home against NE and get throttled by 29 points, a score that actually makes the game look closer than it was. So where do the Bears go?.....umm still 8th.

 

Finally this week the Bears come out on MNF and face a Vikings team that probably gave up on the season. Even still, on a dangerous perfectly safe surface, the Bears throttle the Vikings 40-14. And ESPN's braintrust determines that we are the....8th best team.

 

I guess its good that they aren't being overly reactionary on a week to week basis.

 

I don't really have a problem with the Bears being 8th, but ranking the Eagles is 3rd is nothing short of ridiculous. One of the worst defenses in the entire NFL. Not to mention the Bears beat them convincingly.

[minnesotacubsfan]

cbs is showing them at #4, and more curious is the fact they have 4 of the top 5 NFC teams

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/powerrankings

[Magnetic Curses]

The whole argument is stupid because its pretty clear spending doesnt have any relation to wins. That was whatever you guys were talking about.

 

the salary component was introduced by you, though. to be fair.

[Wilson A2000]

Is Devin Hester now a Hall of Famer? Brian Mitchell isn't, but if Hester ends up with 20-25 returns for TDs, I could see it.

[Magnetic Curses]

what is the point of discussing NFL payrolls? You buy your way to victory in MLB. NFL is all about drafting and getting the most out of cheap guys and knowing when to let your old expensive guys go.

 

but signing he-man doesn't hurt either.

[UMFan83]

The whole argument is stupid because its pretty clear spending doesnt have any relation to wins. That was whatever you guys were talking about.

 

the salary component was introduced by you, though. to be fair.

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Wait no, not at all. I thought that's what you guys were talking about when you were discussing spending.

[UMFan83]

Minnesota has now been the most victimized team by Devin Hester

 

Minnesota - 3 (2006, 2007, 2010)

Green Bay - 2 (2006, 2010)

Denver - 2 (2007x2)

St. Louis - 2 (2006x2)

Arizona - 1 (2006)

New York Giants - 1 (2006 - Missed FG)

Indianapolis - 1 (2006 - Super Bowl)

Kansas City - 1 (2007)

Detroit - 1 (2007)

New Orleans - 1 (2007)

Seattle - 1 (2010)

[ELCABALLO45]

Minnesota has now been the most victimized team by Devin Hester

 

Minnesota - 3 (2006, 2007, 2010)

Green Bay - 2 (2006, 2010)

Denver - 2 (2007x2)

St. Louis - 2 (2006x2)

Arizona - 1 (2006)

New York Giants - 1 (2006 - Missed FG)

Indianapolis - 1 (2006 - Super Bowl)

Kansas City - 1 (2007)

Detroit - 1 (2007)

New Orleans - 1 (2007)

Seattle - 1 (2010)

 

This was by far my favorite. Didn't Sauerbrun mention he was going to challenge Hester? That worked well.

[minnesotacubsfan]

yea he did. former and bitter Bear, thinking he was going to show-up Hester

[minnesotacubsfan]

to be fair, Sauerbrun is the definition of Sulley's "meathead"

[UMFan83]

Minnesota has now been the most victimized team by Devin Hester

 

Minnesota - 3 (2006, 2007, 2010)

Green Bay - 2 (2006, 2010)

Denver - 2 (2007x2)

St. Louis - 2 (2006x2)

Arizona - 1 (2006)

New York Giants - 1 (2006 - Missed FG)

Indianapolis - 1 (2006 - Super Bowl)

Kansas City - 1 (2007)

Detroit - 1 (2007)

New Orleans - 1 (2007)

Seattle - 1 (2010)

 

This was by far my favorite. Didn't Sauerbrun mention he was going to challenge Hester? That worked well.

 

Yup, it was quite awesome when Hester leaped over the fallen body of Sauerbrun as the last line of defense enroute to his 2nd td.

[JonJayCutler]

Minnesota has now been the most victimized team by Devin Hester

 

Minnesota - 3 (2006, 2007, 2010)

Green Bay - 2 (2006, 2010)

Denver - 2 (2007x2)

St. Louis - 2 (2006x2)

Arizona - 1 (2006)

New York Giants - 1 (2006 - Missed FG)

Indianapolis - 1 (2006 - Super Bowl)

Kansas City - 1 (2007)

Detroit - 1 (2007)

New Orleans - 1 (2007)

Seattle - 1 (2010)

 

That's a total of 16. I know the SB one doesn't count toward the 14, but I assume the other is the Missed FG against the Giants? That's kind of lame.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Didn't one of Hester's returns against Denver also come when the Bears lined up with the hands team for a possible onside kick and Hester was the only one on the other side of the field?

[Magnetic Curses]

Didn't one of Hester's returns against Denver also come when the Bears lined up with the hands team for a possible onside kick and Hester was the only one on the other side of the field?

 

no, that was the other two-return game, the one against st louis in 2006.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Didn't one of Hester's returns against Denver also come when the Bears lined up with the hands team for a possible onside kick and Hester was the only one on the other side of the field?

 

no, that was the other two-return game, the one against st louis in 2006.

 

Oh you're right. I always loved that one.

[UMFan83]

Minnesota has now been the most victimized team by Devin Hester

 

Minnesota - 3 (2006, 2007, 2010)

Green Bay - 2 (2006, 2010)

Denver - 2 (2007x2)

St. Louis - 2 (2006x2)

Arizona - 1 (2006)

New York Giants - 1 (2006 - Missed FG)

Indianapolis - 1 (2006 - Super Bowl)

Kansas City - 1 (2007)

Detroit - 1 (2007)

New Orleans - 1 (2007)

Seattle - 1 (2010)

 

That's a total of 16. I know the SB one doesn't count toward the 14, but I assume the other is the Missed FG against the Giants? That's kind of lame.

 

Yup, missed FG doesnt count as a return. By my count, I've seen 3 of his returns live. The 2 earlier Minnesota returns and the New Orleans one.

[hawkeyecub]

Minnesota has now been the most victimized team by Devin Hester

 

Minnesota - 3 (2006, 2007, 2010)

Green Bay - 2 (2006, 2010)

Denver - 2 (2007x2)

St. Louis - 2 (2006x2)

Arizona - 1 (2006)

New York Giants - 1 (2006 - Missed FG)

Indianapolis - 1 (2006 - Super Bowl)

Kansas City - 1 (2007)

Detroit - 1 (2007)

New Orleans - 1 (2007)

Seattle - 1 (2010)

 

It feels like he's had about 10 against us. He's had some long returns that didn't go all the way like the kick return last night.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Didn't one of Hester's returns against Denver also come when the Bears lined up with the hands team for a possible onside kick and Hester was the only one on the other side of the field?

 

no, that was the other two-return game, the one against st louis in 2006.

 

Oh you're right. I always loved that one.

 

given that you both now have the same damn avatar pic, this looked to me like a conversation between Sulley and his alter ego

 

 

freaked me out

[Magnetic Curses]

we are in the love cutler club, now go away

[minnesotacubsfan]

hey man, I'm in the club