Rangers Sign Brandon Webb (p. 10)

[CubColtPacer]

. If Webb signs with the Cubs, he's likely to be the 4th or 5th starter in the rotation.

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/12/17/source-brandon-webb-nearing-decision/

 

I'm pretty sure I see Webb as either ace or 2 starter quality or broken down and a waste of money. I find it hard to see a scenario where he settles into a 4th starter spot and pitches like one. 2007 Webb wouldn't be a 4th starter on the Phillies.

 

I have a feeling this is not going to happen, I believe Cash goes to the rotation or the Cubs make a trade. I see the Cubs getting nixed by someone willing to offer more guarranteed.

This is my feeling as well.

 

Loved Webb pre-injury, but missing two seasons is a gamble not really all that worth taking given the current conditions of the team. If he signs a 1 year deal with someone and he does well, offer him something good next year when there is money to spend. If Tampa wants too much, start the year off with what you have and consider making adjustments at the deadline if they actually find themselves within shouting distance of the playoffs.

 

It almost seems like Fukudome has to go in order to make improvements, which may not be making improvements once you remove Fukudome anyway.

 

 

I would think it's the opposite. Webb is the exact type of player the Cubs should be signing this season. If he pitches terribly, it's not a big deal because he's not dragging down a team that is likely to contend. But if he does regain his form, he's a big piece to having the team contend. The type of team the Cubs are right now makes it a better risk than a contending team who will rue the time and money they spent on Webb if he doesn't perform.

 

Having said that, I don't think the Cubs will get him. And there are benefits to the Cubs not getting him as well since it will open up a rotation slot for the logjam of starting options the Cubs have.

[Guest]

I would think it's the opposite. Webb is the exact type of player the Cubs should be signing this season. If he pitches terribly, it's not a big deal because he's not dragging down a team that is likely to contend. But if he does regain his form, he's a big piece to having the team contend. The type of team the Cubs are right now makes it a better risk than a contending team who will rue the time and money they spent on Webb if he doesn't perform.

 

Having said that, I don't think the Cubs will get him. And there are benefits to the Cubs not getting him as well since it will open up a rotation slot for the logjam of starting options the Cubs have.

 

Going back to my previous response, any kind of Webb signing seems like it hinges on moving Fukudome first. If I'm wrong, then by all means, sign Webb right now. If it means weakening the offense, then it might be better to wait it out.

[UMFan83]

I would think it's the opposite. Webb is the exact type of player the Cubs should be signing this season. If he pitches terribly, it's not a big deal because he's not dragging down a team that is likely to contend. But if he does regain his form, he's a big piece to having the team contend. The type of team the Cubs are right now makes it a better risk than a contending team who will rue the time and money they spent on Webb if he doesn't perform.

 

Having said that, I don't think the Cubs will get him. And there are benefits to the Cubs not getting him as well since it will open up a rotation slot for the logjam of starting options the Cubs have.

 

Going back to my previous response, any kind of Webb signing seems like it hinges on moving Fukudome first. If I'm wrong, then by all means, sign Webb right now. If it means weakening the offense, then it might be better to wait it out.

 

They cant just side Webb now, as it seems like there are 3 teams with similar options for him to choose between. Maybe you mean, just pay him more to get him to sign here and get over it. But I don't think the Cubs are willing to pay more than whatever they are offering for the risk of Webb.

[CubsWin]

If the choices are the Rangers, Cubs and Nationals, and Webb isn't about the money, then it's probably the Rangers, unless with the loss of Lee, Webb considers the Cubs roster better. As much as I would like Webb to sign an incentive-laden deal with the Cubs, I just can't see it happening.

[italianocubsfan7]

I would think it's the opposite. Webb is the exact type of player the Cubs should be signing this season. If he pitches terribly, it's not a big deal because he's not dragging down a team that is likely to contend. But if he does regain his form, he's a big piece to having the team contend. The type of team the Cubs are right now makes it a better risk than a contending team who will rue the time and money they spent on Webb if he doesn't perform.

 

Having said that, I don't think the Cubs will get him. And there are benefits to the Cubs not getting him as well since it will open up a rotation slot for the logjam of starting options the Cubs have.

 

Going back to my previous response, any kind of Webb signing seems like it hinges on moving Fukudome first. If I'm wrong, then by all means, sign Webb right now. If it means weakening the offense, then it might be better to wait it out.

 

Probably hinges more on moving Gorzelanny. Frees up another potential spot in the rotation, some money.

[dew1679666265]

Probably hinges more on moving Gorzelanny. Frees up another potential spot in the rotation, some money.

 

That's definitely a possibility I hadn't thought of.

[Guest]

I would think it's the opposite. Webb is the exact type of player the Cubs should be signing this season. If he pitches terribly, it's not a big deal because he's not dragging down a team that is likely to contend. But if he does regain his form, he's a big piece to having the team contend. The type of team the Cubs are right now makes it a better risk than a contending team who will rue the time and money they spent on Webb if he doesn't perform.

 

Having said that, I don't think the Cubs will get him. And there are benefits to the Cubs not getting him as well since it will open up a rotation slot for the logjam of starting options the Cubs have.

 

Going back to my previous response, any kind of Webb signing seems like it hinges on moving Fukudome first. If I'm wrong, then by all means, sign Webb right now. If it means weakening the offense, then it might be better to wait it out.

Probably hinges more on moving Gorzelanny. Frees up another potential spot in the rotation, some money.

 

I've thought of that, also, but Gorz's money isn't going to be as hard to move, and moving Gorz to sign Webb will still add to the payroll, whereas Fukudome might free up some payroll. I don't know. I'm just thinking out loud about what the current mindset is.

[dew1679666265]

I've thought of that, also, but Gorz's money isn't going to be as hard to move, and moving Gorz to sign Webb will still add to the payroll, whereas Fukudome might free up some payroll. I don't know. I'm just thinking out loud about what the current mindset is.

 

I think we can add salary, just not much. We've only picked up $6.5 mil so far this offseason.

[Brian]

I was going to point out that there is more than new contracts, but nobody is getting too insane of a raise this year.

 

Fukudome - .5

Dempster - 1

Byrd - 2.5

Grabow - 1.1

 

 

Ramirez is actually getting 1.15 less this year.

[davell]

I think the Cubs can still add a Webb or a Garza without letting go of any other contracts most likely, due to the deferred money of Pena. That said, I think that they'll still try to lose either Fukudome or Gorzelanny before the season starts.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think the Cubs can still add a Webb or a Garza without letting go of any other contracts most likely, due to the deferred money of Pena. That said, I think that they'll still try to lose either Fukudome or Gorzelanny before the season starts.

Those are two vastly different contracts and not really an either or situation.

[Guest]

The Nationals MLB.com writer tweets:

 

 

The #Cubs and #Rangers have jumped ahead of the #Nats in the Brandon Webb sweepstakes. #MLB.com

[shnsajax]

The Nationals MLB.com writer tweets:

 

 

The #Cubs and #Rangers have jumped ahead of the #Nats in the Brandon Webb sweepstakes. #MLB.com

 

If the Rangers are at all desperate we will probably lose this.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

it's a sweepstakes now?

[apete6]

The Nationals MLB.com writer tweets:

 

 

The #Cubs and #Rangers have jumped ahead of the #Nats in the Brandon Webb sweepstakes. #MLB.com

 

If the Rangers are at all desperate we will probably lose this.

 

Not sure on that, Webb would likely be able to rebuild his value in the NL Central more than in the AL West, even though the West isn't full of great lineups. He'll still have to face the Red Sox and Yankees enough to possibly skew his stats.

 

Rangers definitely should win the West, though, whereas the Cubs are definitively not favorites in the Central.

[imb]

it's a sweepstakes now?

 

thats what i was about to say

[Little Slide Rooter]

The Nationals MLB.com writer tweets:

 

 

The #Cubs and #Rangers have jumped ahead of the #Nats in the Brandon Webb sweepstakes. #MLB.com

 

If the Rangers are at all desperate we will probably lose this.

 

Actually, my fear is that we'll be the desperate ones and Hendry will do something awful.

[Cubs Fan Dan]

I am not worried at all I really do not care what the Cubs sign him for as it is pretty much a lock to be a 1 year deal. Guarrantee him more money please, just get him because if his agent is even close to correct and he can make 30 starts, he will be well worth it.

[CUBZ99]

Muskat's blog seems to imply that the Cubs are not encouraged by Webb's medical records and will only sign him if he takes a Kerry Wood type deal.

[Butterscup1679666578]

1/1.5 it is

[UMFan83]

Take a gamble Cubs. It's what all the cheap good teams do

[italianocubsfan7]

If the Cubs are going to sign Webb, it probably won't be for more than $3 million. I guess we'll find out this week (reports still say Webb will sign within the next couple of days).

[UMFan83]

They just said on the Score that Webbs agent is holding out for 7.5 million a year. Looks like it's gonna come down to who offers him the most. Advantage Rangers. I no longer hope to sign him but will be happy if he does.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Webb and Rangers are reportedly close to a deal.

 

Link.

[Old Style]

Sullivan has retracted that report.

8:54am: Webb is not in Texas and "other clubs are very much in play," a source tells MLBTR. Sullivan now has an update saying Washington has not met with Webb. While the Rangers are in the mix, they have not met with the pitcher and have no plans to do so.