New Manager

[Backtobanks]

From Phil Rogers:

 

Unless there's a Joe Girardi Hail Mary at the buzzer, the next Cubs manager isn't going to be a big name like Lou Piniella or Dusty Baker. A source close to the search says the focus is on finding someone who can be a teacher as well as push buttons. Ryne Sandberg's hopes could depend on how well-prepared players such as Darwin Barney, Welington Castillo and Sam Fuld appear down the stretch. … Alan Trammell, Piniella's bench coach, is definitely a teacher. Ditto third base coach Mike Quade and outside possibilities Ted Simmons, Fredi Gonzalez, Eric Wedge, DeMarlo Hale and Gary Varsho. …

[Sammy Sofa]

FREDI-FREDI-FREDI!

[Little Slide Rooter]

FREDI-FREDI-FREDI!

 

yes.

[Old Style]

With Quade being named to manage the rest of the season, I would have to think that doesn't bode well for Trammell next season.

[Guest]

With Quade being named to manage the rest of the season, I would have to think that doesn't bode well for Trammell next season.

It might not mean that at all, actually. As I said in another thread, if Trammell, Sandberg and others are considered equal candidates for the job, they may not want to bias the future decision by putting one of them in the position now.

[Backtobanks]

According to a Tribune alert, Hendry told Trammel he wouldn't be considered for the job next year.

[Magnetic Curses]

i can't wait for sandberg to get fired and be soured on the cubs organization just like almost every single ex-cubs player of my generation.

[NCCubFan]

According to a Tribune alert, Hendry told Trammel he wouldn't be considered for the job next year.

Confirmed by Hendry himself during an interview on the telecast.

[Hawk4Hall]

Hendry needs to be the next to go.

[Cubs Fan Dan]

Interesting, although I am not surprised Trammel will not be considered with all of the names out there, I cannot really disagree with Hendry being up front about it. However, I see no reason why Freddy Kreuger (Quade) is being considered. I am going to go with the smoke and mirrors theory. I think it is fair to say we have no clue who gets the job.

[Soul]

Are they really going to use the likes of Fuld & Barney as some kind of extrapolation tool for the pre-evaluation of Sandberg, as Rogers' comment seems to suggest?

 

That sounds pretty bizarre to me. I would think they have better ways of evaluating a managerial candidate who is in their own system than using marginal prospects as a benchmark.

[mlarner]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/125221/index.html

 

Does anyone here think Girardi would leave the Yankees to come to Chicago? Why would he leave a perennial contender to come here? His contract is up after this season, is there any indication the Yankees might be looking elsewhere?

[jersey cubs fan]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/125221/index.html

 

Does anyone here think Girardi would leave the Yankees to come to Chicago? Why would he leave a perennial contender to come here? His contract is up after this season, is there any indication the Yankees might be looking elsewhere?

 

All depends on how they do this postseason. Girardi took heat after 2008 and it will happen again if they finish behind Tampa and/or get knocked out of the playoffs early.

[MSG T]

Hendry needs to be the next to go.

 

This.

 

I'm much more concerned with who will be GM come spring training than who is the manager. I'd prefer Fredi Gonzalez, but I would take Ryno in a heartbeat if it meant getting a good GM.

[Guest]

"Given the parameters for the next manager outlined by a source close to the search process, Piniella's successor will be a young, hands-on teacher who is as likely to follow a spreadsheet analysis as his gut. Out with instinct, in with integers, and strategists must value statistics even more."

 

"You might say the Cubs are in the midst of fully converting to baseball's sabermetric system."

 

"If the next manager has an established name, great. But those guys also cost money. It's hard to imagine the new ownership regime taking measures to streamline a bloated payroll doling out $5 million a year for someone to fill out the lineup. The reality of that trend may not bode well for those hoping to see Joe Girardi change his pinstripes from Yankees navy blue to Cubbies royal blue."

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-spt-0823-haugh-chicago--20100822,0,141333.column

[SouthSideRyan]

That's the first bit of good news about the major league club in months.

[lumafia]

Hendry will do what he always does. He will hold out to hire his guy. He did the same with Dusty Baker. We all get to sit back and watch all of the best available alternatives get gobbled up by other teams while Hendry waits for the guy that HE wants to manage to give him a yes or a no. This manager will hold out long enough where Hendry won't have any other options, and he will get to name his own price.

 

I fully expect him to put the blinders on.

[MSG T]

"Given the parameters for the next manager outlined by a source close to the search process, Piniella's successor will be a young, hands-on teacher who is as likely to follow a spreadsheet analysis as his gut. Out with instinct, in with integers, and strategists must value statistics even more."

 

"You might say the Cubs are in the midst of fully converting to baseball's sabermetric system."

 

"If the next manager has an established name, great. But those guys also cost money. It's hard to imagine the new ownership regime taking measures to streamline a bloated payroll doling out $5 million a year for someone to fill out the lineup. The reality of that trend may not bode well for those hoping to see Joe Girardi change his pinstripes from Yankees navy blue to Cubbies royal blue."

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-spt-0823-haugh-chicago--20100822,0,141333.column

 

So does that mean they'll actually give Gonzalez an actual chance? This pleases me.

 

 

I still stand by my statement that I'm more concerned with who is GM, however.

[dew1679666265]

Hendry will do what he always does. He will hold out to hire his guy. He did the same with Dusty Baker. We all get to sit back and watch all of the best available alternatives get gobbled up by other teams while Hendry waits for the guy that HE wants to manage to give him a yes or a no. This manager will hold out long enough where Hendry won't have any other options, and he will get to name his own price.

 

I fully expect him to put the blinders on.

 

That's not a bad quality as long as you target the right person. And going by the link Raisin posted, they may be heading in the direction of targeting the right person.

[jersey cubs fan]

That's the first bit of good news about the major league club in months.

 

Except given the fact that it was written by David Haugh and about a team run by Jim Hendry, making it completely meaningless.

[SouthSideRyan]

That's the first bit of good news about the major league club in months.

 

Except given the fact that it was written by David Haugh and about a team run by Jim Hendry, making it completely meaningless.

 

Don't you think he's basing this off of some sort of source? I'm not saying it's true, and we could just as likely wind up with Don Baylor again, but the idea even being out there is somewhat encouraging

[jersey cubs fan]

That's the first bit of good news about the major league club in months.

 

Except given the fact that it was written by David Haugh and about a team run by Jim Hendry, making it completely meaningless.

 

Don't you think he's basing this off of some sort of source? I'm not saying it's true, and we could just as likely wind up with Don Baylor again, but the idea even being out there is somewhat encouraging

 

Sure, but it's David Haugh who is a glorified football beat writer and who knows jack squat about sabermetrics. And it's a Jim Hendry team which has always paid lip service to this stuff but nearly every time chooses to focus on obscure nonsense.

 

Whether or not they are going for a young hands on teaching manager without name recognition probably has a lot less to do with sabermetrics and a lot more to do with trying something different + cost cutting.

[The Logan]

Are they really going to use the likes of Fuld & Barney as some kind of extrapolation tool for the pre-evaluation of Sandberg, as Rogers' comment seems to suggest?

 

I hope so. That means Sandberg won't be the coach next year

[DivineBovine]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/125221/index.html

 

Does anyone here think Girardi would leave the Yankees to come to Chicago? Why would he leave a perennial contender to come here? His contract is up after this season, is there any indication the Yankees might be looking elsewhere?

 

All depends on how they do this postseason. Girardi took heat after 2008 and it will happen again if they finish behind Tampa and/or get knocked out of the playoffs early.

 

 

 

I can't understand why a manager can get so much hype for winning with $200 million dollar team with by far the most talent in the league.

 

Personally, this manager talk bores me. This thread isn't even a page long, so people must agree with me. Yeah, you can have a bad manager, but in the end, managers probably matter less in baseball than any other sport. Hey, if the casual baseball fan can understand the thought process behind managing a baseball game and criticize it, it must not be that complicated.

[mlarner]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/125221/index.html

 

Does anyone here think Girardi would leave the Yankees to come to Chicago? Why would he leave a perennial contender to come here? His contract is up after this season, is there any indication the Yankees might be looking elsewhere?

 

All depends on how they do this postseason. Girardi took heat after 2008 and it will happen again if they finish behind Tampa and/or get knocked out of the playoffs early.

 

 

 

I can't understand why a manager can get so much hype for winning with $200 million dollar team with by far the most talent in the league.

 

Personally, this manager talk bores me. This thread isn't even a page long, so people must agree with me. Yeah, you can have a bad manager, but in the end, managers probably matter less in baseball than any other sport. Hey, if the casual baseball fan can understand the thought process behind managing a baseball game and criticize it, it must not be that complicated.

I hear what you are saying, but the biggest reason no one is contributing here is because a similar thread has started on the Cubs Discussions forum.