Re: NHL (Blackhawks included) offseason thread

[Magnetic Curses]

i knew bowman was posturing, but he still looks like a moron.

 

"these guys will be chicago blackhawks next season"

 

and then trades him the next day.

 

i expect sharp or bolland to be next.

 

none of the players traded have been as valuable as sharp or bolland. i'm still waiting to hear what the injury exemptions or whatever are.

 

i don't think bolland or sharp will be traded, we will just have a lot of swedes and other scandinavian-types on the team. i don't think that's a bad thing, necessarily.

[UMFan83]

Right now, I'd say we still look to be a match for the contenders in the conference. We're no longer clearly superior to teams like Vancouver, but we're still even with them. And that's a one-year reload and then back to dominance next year, imo.

 

I agree with the latter part of your post about reloading, but I don't know if I can predict next year. Obviously we're a playoff team with our top lines, and we've kept the D mostly in tact, assuming we keep Hammer. But considering how close the margin of error was in the Vancouver and SJ series....we won out with our depth. We could have lost both of those series last year...now all that depth is gone. I don't think I can predict how well we'll go until midway through the year.

 

The margin of error is always narrow in hockey, though. I don't think it's as simple as "it was close and we lost a player so now we'll lose." We were a good team that caught some breaks and a hot streak, and we'll need to do that again.

 

You're being too modest. Last year's Hawks were fantastic, not some lucky break cinderella.

 

Never said they were a cinderella. According to that one blog behind the net or whatever its called the Hawks were by far the best team in the league last year and actually underperformed in the playoffs. The Hawks could easily be as good as Vancouver and SJ or whatever next season, or they could be clearly worse, or they might still be slightly better. When your talking about losing depth, and not necessarily top end talent, its hard to tell until you see it's effects.

[Magnetic Curses]

i knew bowman was posturing, but he still looks like a moron.

 

"these guys will be chicago blackhawks next season"

 

and then trades him the next day.

 

i expect sharp or bolland to be next.

 

I'm very positive about the offseason right now. If we lose Sharp, Bolland or Hjalmarsson, I'll be very disappointed. Niemi can go, though, if he's signed to a big offer sheet or gets a big arbitration award.

 

here's what i got at capgeek right now:

 

Jonathan Toews — $6,300,000

Patrick Kane — $6,300,000

Marian Hossa — $5,275,000

Patrick Sharp — $3,900,000

Dave Bolland — $3,375,000

Tomas Kopecky — $1,200,000

Marty Reasoner — $1,150,000

Troy Brouwer — $1,025,000

Viktor Stalberg ($65,000) $850,000

Mathis Olimb — $600,000

* Bryan Bickell — $500,000

 

Brian Campbell — $7,142,875

Duncan Keith — $5,538,462

Brent Seabrook — $3,500,000

* Niklas Hjalmarsson — $3,000,000

Ivan Vishnevskiy — $821,667

Shawn Lalonde ($220,000) $773,333

* Jordan Hendry — $625,000

 

* Antti Niemi — $2,000,000

Corey Crawford — $800,000

 

=58,866,337

 

i'm interested to see what the injury exemptions amount to. thinking about it, hossa and bolland will be significant and it's possible campbell's could push us over the top. saying this, i have no idea what it means.

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i don't think the injury exemption stuff was true. that all originated from some message boards posters.

 

everybody has reported 55.2 million. im pretty sure thats our cap.

[Magnetic Curses]

espn reporting the hawks have signed john scott.

[17 Seconds]

who is that dude

[Magnetic Curses]

some big forward from minnesota who is being compared to buff or something

 

EDIT: he's a defenseman, apparently. 6-8 258

[Butterscup1679666578]

well, they said they were going to get a bruiser.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

No. 7 D and pure enforcer, nothing more

[17 Seconds]

for people who have knowledge on the guys we've gotten back this offseason- how far away do you think most of them are from the NHL? will any of them help us this year?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

for people who have knowledge on the guys we've gotten back this offseason- how far away do you think most of them are from the NHL? will any of them help us this year?

 

Almost all of them are a year or two away. Stralberg can probably play right now, maybe one of the D. But with so many of them, the chances are pretty good at least one of them has a breakout camp.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Fiddling around on Capgeek, if the $55.2 figure is right, we are still about 2 million over if we retain everyone. :( Sharp or Bolland or Hjalmarsson are probably gone.

[17 Seconds]

No. 7 D and pure enforcer, nothing more

 

kinda saw it coming after we lost pretty much all our toughness in eager/burish/byfuglien

[Magnetic Curses]

Fiddling around on Capgeek, if the $55.2 figure is right, we are still about 2 million over if we retain everyone. :( Sharp or Bolland or Hjalmarsson are probably gone.

 

we better get a ransom for one of them, then. a motherfucking ransom.

[Flames24Rulz]

My bad about the Ladd trade. I definitely didn't think we got a respect that is that highly regarded.

 

Looks like we had two very good deals with ATL.

[Flames24Rulz]

Fiddling around on Capgeek, if the $55.2 figure is right, we are still about 2 million over if we retain everyone. :( Sharp or Bolland or Hjalmarsson are probably gone.

 

Does that take the Huet situation into account?

[17 Seconds]

Fiddling around on Capgeek, if the $55.2 figure is right, we are still about 2 million over if we retain everyone. :( Sharp or Bolland or Hjalmarsson are probably gone.

 

absolutely can't be hjalmarsson.

[17 Seconds]

Fiddling around on Capgeek, if the $55.2 figure is right, we are still about 2 million over if we retain everyone. :( Sharp or Bolland or Hjalmarsson are probably gone.

 

Does that take the Huet situation into account?

 

yup

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Fiddling around on Capgeek, if the $55.2 figure is right, we are still about 2 million over if we retain everyone. :( Sharp or Bolland or Hjalmarsson are probably gone.

 

Does that take the Huet situation into account?

 

Yes. Here's the closest I can get on capgeek, and that's being optimistic on Hjalmarsson and Niemi's resigning costs. Some of the cheaper young players may not make the team, I'm just using them as a proxy for a cheap player.

 

 

Jonathan Toews — $6,300,000

Patrick Kane — $6,300,000

Marian Hossa — $5,275,000

Patrick Sharp — $3,900,000

Dave Bolland — $3,375,000

Tomas Kopecky — $1,200,000

Kyle Beach ($325,000) $1,170,833

Marty Reasoner — $1,150,000

Troy Brouwer — $1,025,000

* Jack Skille — $900,000

Viktor Stalberg ($65,000) $850,000

Jake Dowell — $525,000

* Bryan Bickell — $500,000

DEFENSEMEN

Brian Campbell — $7,142,875

Duncan Keith — $5,538,462

Brent Seabrook — $3,500,000

* Niklas Hjalmarsson — $3,000,000

Brian Connelly ($287,500) $875,000

Jonathan Carlsson — $565,000

John Scott — $512,500

GOALTENDERS

* Antti Niemi — $2,250,000

* Hannu Toivonen — $600,000

BUYOUTS

NONE

LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS

NONE

CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY

$4,190,000

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS

ROSTER SIZE 22

SALARY CAP $59,400,000

PAYROLL $60,644,670

BONUSES $677,500

CAP SPACE $-567,170

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i think we have to dump reasoner. we can't afford to be paying a 4th line center 1.2 mil

[Butterscup1679666578]

Yeah that's the name that stuck out to me. Surely we can get someone cheaper to fill that role.

[brinoch]

I'm pretty sure that Beach is not making the team. They have been saying that they will not rush players out of the AHL -- so keep the unready rookies off the list. Combined with Beach's hit, I think you'll see someone else. I think Skille is someone who they will trade if they can. The Hawks also want to resign Hendry for a small amount, which is why they didn't offer him a QO. Dowell and Reasoner seem to be redundant, so go with one of them.

 

I'm not sure who fills the slots, of course.

[Butterscup1679666578]

man it sucks that we need campbell now because that contract is so brutal

[Guest]

Fiddling around on Capgeek, if the $55.2 figure is right, we are still about 2 million over if we retain everyone. :( Sharp or Bolland or Hjalmarsson are probably gone.

 

Does that take the Huet situation into account?

 

Yes. Here's the closest I can get on capgeek, and that's being optimistic on Hjalmarsson and Niemi's resigning costs. Some of the cheaper young players may not make the team, I'm just using them as a proxy for a cheap player.

 

 

Jonathan Toews — $6,300,000

Patrick Kane — $6,300,000

Marian Hossa — $5,275,000

Patrick Sharp — $3,900,000

Dave Bolland — $3,375,000

Tomas Kopecky — $1,200,000

Kyle Beach ($325,000) $1,170,833

Marty Reasoner — $1,150,000

Troy Brouwer — $1,025,000

* Jack Skille — $900,000

Viktor Stalberg ($65,000) $850,000

Jake Dowell — $525,000

* Bryan Bickell — $500,000

DEFENSEMEN

Brian Campbell — $7,142,875

Duncan Keith — $5,538,462

Brent Seabrook — $3,500,000

* Niklas Hjalmarsson — $3,000,000

Brian Connelly ($287,500) $875,000

Jonathan Carlsson — $565,000

John Scott — $512,500

GOALTENDERS

* Antti Niemi — $2,250,000

* Hannu Toivonen — $600,000

BUYOUTS

NONE

LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS

NONE

CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY

$4,190,000

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS

ROSTER SIZE 22

SALARY CAP $59,400,000

PAYROLL $60,644,670

BONUSES $677,500

CAP SPACE $-567,170

Kyle,

 

Are you looking at the offseason cap or the in-season cap? I'm assuming it's the latter and you're putting Huet in the minors.

[Magnetic Curses]

that is with the huet situation accounted for, the only goalies on that roster are niemi and toivonen.