Bulls Offseason Thread

[chuckywang]

So if we get Lebron via a SnT, sign Bosh, can we still lock up Rose long term?

[Magnetic Curses]

So if we get Lebron via a SnT, sign Bosh, can we still lock up Rose long term?

 

yes, we have his bird rights.

[Soul]

I actually can see the NJ thing. They can sign 2 max FAs, which means Lebron can team up with whoever he wants.

 

It would be like plopping an instant title contender from absolutely nowhere into NJ -- ala Boston a few years ago.

 

I can imagine that would be very attractive to Lebron, because he would get to choose more pieces. Hand-pick his surrounding cast.

[David]

I actually can see the NJ thing. They can sign 2 max FAs, which means Lebron can team up with whoever he wants.

 

It would be like plopping an instant title contender from absolutely nowhere into NJ -- ala Boston a few years ago.

 

I can imagine that would be very attractive to Lebron, because he would get to choose more pieces. Hand-pick his surrounding cast.

 

 

link?

[Guest]

From what I can understand, they can only sign 1. Although considering their draft position I'd rather be in their shoes than Miami or NY.

[ConstableRabbit]

It's entirely possible that he has decided already, though. It's not like he can't pick and choose where he goes. There is nobody who could sign him who wouldn't.

 

 

Do the pitches (come July 1st) mean something? Maybe... but I get the feeling they're about as important as a personal statement on a college app.

Haha depending on where you apply to college those are extremely important!

[SouthSideRyan]

i don't think lebron wants to play 3 years in newark, though

 

It's not like he'd have to live there.

[Soul]

I actually can see the NJ thing. They can sign 2 max FAs, which means Lebron can team up with whoever he wants.

 

It would be like plopping an instant title contender from absolutely nowhere into NJ -- ala Boston a few years ago.

 

I can imagine that would be very attractive to Lebron, because he would get to choose more pieces. Hand-pick his surrounding cast.

 

 

link?

 

This is what was said this morning on ESPN.

[Magnetic Curses]

i don't think lebron wants to play 3 years in newark, though

 

It's not like he'd have to live there.

 

no, but visiting there is bad enough. you're going to showcase lebron in newark?

 

again, a case of the anyone but the bulls mentality.

[hawkeyecub]

So the Nets have currently Yi/Lopez/Williams/CDR/Harris + Lee and Dooling. From what I understand, they can win the lottery, use Dallas' pick, sign a max contract, and still have enough to sign another decent FA? Imagine adding LeBron, Wall, someone like Udoh or Ebanks, a shooter with the top pick in the 2nd, and then an FA big. They might win 65 games.

 

Exactly. If they were going to Brooklyn next year I think it would be a slam dunk. As it is I think it makes sense but is about 3rd/4th most likely.

 

Bucher thinks the opposite of Broussard and feels there will be a sign and trade although I think his logic was a bit off. If it were to become clear that a S&T would be required to land him, it would turn into an interesting bidding war.

[Magnetic Curses]

So the Nets have currently Yi/Lopez/Williams/CDR/Harris + Lee and Dooling. From what I understand, they can win the lottery, use Dallas' pick, sign a max contract, and still have enough to sign another decent FA? Imagine adding LeBron, Wall, someone like Udoh or Ebanks, a shooter with the top pick in the 2nd, and then an FA big. They might win 65 games.

 

Exactly. If they were going to Brooklyn next year I think it would be a slam dunk. As it is I think it makes sense but is about 3rd/4th most likely.

 

Bucher thinks the opposite of Broussard and feels there will be a sign and trade although I think his logic was a bit off. If it were to become clear that a S&T would be required to land him, it would turn into an interesting bidding war.

 

how will there be a bidding war? lebron will tell the cavs he's going to sign somewhere and will give them the chance to do a sign-and-trade. cleveland is not calling the shots in terms of what they get back at all, the only choice they have is if they do a s&t or not. they cannot dictate where he'll go and there won't be a bidding war.

Edited May 14, 2010 by Stannis

[RedFlash]

Beasley doesn't have an ungodly contract though. And I like him going forward more than I like Deng.

 

The only thing Beasley got going for him is that he is still on his rookie contract. And while that makes him more valuable then Deng, it doesn't make him all that valuable.

 

And I agree with whoever said it, that is seems the ESPN is running the "Anybody but the Bulls" mentality, which is total bs.

[David]

Beasley doesn't have an ungodly contract though. And I like him going forward more than I like Deng.

 

The only thing Beasley got going for him is that he is still on his rookie contract. And while that makes him more valuable then Deng, it doesn't make him all that valuable.

 

And I agree with whoever said it, that is seems the ESPN is running the "Anybody but the Bulls" mentality, which is total bs.

 

 

huh? ESPN is running with this Bulls story like nobody else and pushing the hell out of it... Broussard was on mike and mike 3 days in a row talking about how the Bulls are the favorite... Chad Ford put up an update last night 5 minutes after the Cavs lost saying that 3 GM's think LeBron is coming to Chicago...

[RedFlash]

Beasley doesn't have an ungodly contract though. And I like him going forward more than I like Deng.

 

The only thing Beasley got going for him is that he is still on his rookie contract. And while that makes him more valuable then Deng, it doesn't make him all that valuable.

 

And I agree with whoever said it, that is seems the ESPN is running the "Anybody but the Bulls" mentality, which is total bs.

 

 

huh? ESPN is running with this Bulls story like nobody else and pushing the hell out of it... Broussard was on mike and mike 3 days in a row talking about how the Bulls are the favorite... Chad Ford put up an update last night 5 minutes after the Cavs lost saying that 3 GM's think LeBron is coming to Chicago...

 

But then you got Avery Johnson, Jamal Mashburn, Rob Parker and Skip Bayless who believes LBJ will sign with another team not name the Bulls. So there is a stronger "anti-Bulls" contengient at ESPN right then "Pro-Bulls."

[SouthSideRyan]

Just so we're clear, anyone who doesn't think the Bulls will get LBJ is being anti-Bulls?

[RedFlash]

Just so we're clear, anyone who doesn't think the Bulls will get LBJ is being anti-Bulls?

 

Is that hard to believe? If those who believe the Bulls will not LBJ for really weak reasons (ie MJ's legacy, or the idea of "New York") then yes, they are anti-Bulls. But if someone can legitimately come with a strong argument to suggest tht LBJ won't go to the Bulls, then no I wouldn't consider then anti-Bulls.

[David]

Beasley doesn't have an ungodly contract though. And I like him going forward more than I like Deng.

 

The only thing Beasley got going for him is that he is still on his rookie contract. And while that makes him more valuable then Deng, it doesn't make him all that valuable.

 

And I agree with whoever said it, that is seems the ESPN is running the "Anybody but the Bulls" mentality, which is total bs.

 

 

huh? ESPN is running with this Bulls story like nobody else and pushing the hell out of it... Broussard was on mike and mike 3 days in a row talking about how the Bulls are the favorite... Chad Ford put up an update last night 5 minutes after the Cavs lost saying that 3 GM's think LeBron is coming to Chicago...

 

But then you got Avery Johnson, Jamal Mashburn, Rob Parker and Skip Bayless who believes LBJ will sign with another team not name the Bulls. So there is a stronger "anti-Bulls" contengient at ESPN right then "Pro-Bulls."

 

 

Except those guys are just talking head analysts while the others at least claim to have sources and are reporters.

 

 

Except Bayless, he's just a professional troll.

[Magnetic Curses]

Just so we're clear, anyone who doesn't think the Bulls will get LBJ is being anti-Bulls?

 

i think they are "anti-bulls" in the fact that they don't think he will sign with the bulls. i don't think that means that they are anti-bulls in general.

 

there is a marked difference between being "anti-bulls" on an issue like this one and being in an "anyone but the bulls" flailing hysteria.

[SouthSideRyan]

Just so we're clear, anyone who doesn't think the Bulls will get LBJ is being anti-Bulls?

 

Is that hard to believe? If those who believe the Bulls will not LBJ for really weak reasons (ie MJ's legacy, or the idea of "New York") then yes, they are anti-Bulls. But if someone can legitimately come with a strong argument to suggest tht LBJ won't go to the Bulls, then no I wouldn't consider then anti-Bulls.

 

Until you start giving me a strong argument as to why Lebron won't stay in Cleveland, I'm considering you anti-Cavs

[Magnetic Curses]

I'M REALLY GLAD DAN GILBERT CALLED A PC TO ANNOUNCE THAT HE WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED

[chuckywang]

So the Nets have currently Yi/Lopez/Williams/CDR/Harris + Lee and Dooling. From what I understand, they can win the lottery, use Dallas' pick, sign a max contract, and still have enough to sign another decent FA? Imagine adding LeBron, Wall, someone like Udoh or Ebanks, a shooter with the top pick in the 2nd, and then an FA big. They might win 65 games.

 

Exactly. If they were going to Brooklyn next year I think it would be a slam dunk. As it is I think it makes sense but is about 3rd/4th most likely.

 

Bucher thinks the opposite of Broussard and feels there will be a sign and trade although I think his logic was a bit off. If it were to become clear that a S&T would be required to land him, it would turn into an interesting bidding war.

 

Their team won all of a dozen games this year, and they will be adding a huge piece (Lebron) and a big piece (their first round pick). I don't think that team is better than the Cavs are right now.

[RedFlash]

Just so we're clear, anyone who doesn't think the Bulls will get LBJ is being anti-Bulls?

 

Is that hard to believe? If those who believe the Bulls will not LBJ for really weak reasons (ie MJ's legacy, or the idea of "New York") then yes, they are anti-Bulls. But if someone can legitimately come with a strong argument to suggest tht LBJ won't go to the Bulls, then no I wouldn't consider then anti-Bulls.

 

Until you start giving me a strong argument as to why Lebron won't stay in Cleveland, I'm considering you anti-Cavs

 

I hate the Cavs, always have, always will. So yes, I am anti-Cavs, thank you.

 

With that said, I think it is better for basketball if he stayed in Cleveland, but me being a Bulls fan/anti-Cavs fan wants to be greedy and kill off relevent basketball in Ohio for good, by taking Lebron.

[SouthSideRyan]

Why would you waste energy hating the Cavs your entire life? Craig Ehlo just too smarmy for you?

[David]

I've hated the Toronto Blue Jays all my life.

 

 

 

 

no, i haven't.

[bukie]

I don't know about you guys, but I've hated the Pirates since the mid-90s.