NBA PLAYOFF THREAD

[Guest]

LeBron's eFG% on jumpers was 43% this year, and 29% of those were assisted.

 

For comparison, Kobe's eFG on jumpers was 46% this year, and 37% of his were assisted.

[illiniguy]

They won 50 games and were the 3 seed.

Yeah, because they had Michael Jordan.

 

Where do you think the Cavs would be with Delonte West playing 35 minutes a game in place of LBJ?

I still think without LeBron that

Mo Williams

Delonte West

Antawn Jamison

Anderson Varejo

Shaquille O'Neal

get around 4th in the East. Easily.

[SouthSideRyan]

They won 50 games and were the 3 seed.

Yeah, because they had Michael Jordan.

 

Where do you think the Cavs would be with Delonte West playing 35 minutes a game in place of LBJ?

I still think without LeBron that

Mo Williams

Delonte West

Antawn Jamison

Anderson Varejo

Shaquille O'Neal

get around 4th in the East. Easily.

 

Well the Bulls only performed 2 games worse the year after Jordan was forced to "retire" so I guess LBJ > MJ

[illiniguy]

They won 50 games and were the 3 seed.

Yeah, because they had Michael Jordan.

 

Where do you think the Cavs would be with Delonte West playing 35 minutes a game in place of LBJ?

I still think without LeBron that

Mo Williams

Delonte West

Antawn Jamison

Anderson Varejo

Shaquille O'Neal

get around 4th in the East. Easily.

 

Well the Bulls only performed 2 games worse the year after Jordan was forced to "retire" so I guess LBJ > MJ

 

You think when the new Mailman is about to retire he will cherrypick a team to try and steal a ring with?

[Derwood]

so the 2010 Cavs supporting cast is better than the '88 Bulls supporting cast, but the '10 Bulls team is better than the Cavs (minus James)? So the 2010 Bulls are a better team than the '88 Bulls minus MJ?

[illiniguy]

so the 2010 Cavs supporting cast is better than the '88 Bulls supporting cast, but the '10 Bulls team is better than the Cavs (minus James)? So the 2010 Bulls are a better team than the '88 Bulls minus MJ?

I never said that the 2010 team was better than the Cavs without LeBron. I said the Cavs would finish around 4th without him. The Bulls got what, 8th? Huh?

[David]

One year after rooting against the Celtics, Bulls fans should be clamoring for them to knock off the Cavaliers. That surely would deliver LeBron James to Chicago, right?

 

The buzz surrounding the NBA's two-time defending most valuable player is growing now that the Celtics have grabbed a 3-2 lead over the Cavaliers in their Eastern Conference semifinals series. The Celtics can close out the series at home Thursday in Game 6.

 

ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard, who is close with members of James' inner circle, fanned the flames early Wednesday in a TV appearance, saying the Bulls are James' No. 1 option should he leave the Cavaliers.

 

The Tribune alluded to similar rumors last week when it wrote about Kentucky coach John Calipari attending a Bulls-Cavaliers playoff games with James' respected agent, Leon Rose. Calipari is close with James, and Calipari and Rose sat courtside in Cleveland during the Cavaliers' disappointing Game 5 loss.

 

But any reports about James' July plans are speculative. Just as there is buzz around the league about his respect for the Bulls, there are other reports about James' respect for the Lakers' triangle offense. Or that he hasn't made up his mind yet, etc., etc.

 

James has waxed effusively about the Bulls' roster, both during a late-season visit to the United Center and against during the Cavaliers-Bulls playoff series.

 

Stay tuned.

 

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/05/lebron-mania-picking-up-steam.html

[Andy]

Charles Oakley was really [expletive] good

So is Anderson Varejo

 

JJ Hickson isn't

He's not great, but in '88 the Bulls were freaking awful. Pippen and Grant were nothing.

 

They won 50 games and were the 3 seed.

Wait, so LeBron is God and the rest of the Cavs blow and they win 60+ games, but when the Bulls won 50 in '88 it was because MJ's supporting cast was so good? That's convenient.

[SouthSideRyan]

Can somebody please explain the '94 Bulls to me.

[Guest]

Wait, so LeBron is God and the rest of the Cavs blow and they win 60+ games, but when the Bulls won 50 in '88 it was because MJ's supporting cast was so good? That's convenient.

 

I never said any of those things.

[Magnetic Curses]

no, it's obviously because the cavs are the best team in the east without lebron and lebron is still God and everything about the team is the greatest and don't say anything negative about them at all or be flamed by the cult of lebron/featuring the great cavaliers.

[Andy]

Can somebody please explain the '94 Bulls to me.

Scottie Pippen is an NBA Hall of Famer and was in the prime of his career and there were some solid guys around him, and the NBA as a whole wasn't all that great in the mid to late 90s.

[SouthSideRyan]

Can somebody please explain the '94 Bulls to me.

Scottie Pippen is an NBA Hall of Famer and was in the prime of his career and there were some solid guys around him, and the NBA as a whole wasn't all that great in the mid to late 90s.

 

My point is Pippen's supporting cast was worse than Jordan's in '93 and the Bulls wound up 2 wins worse. Scottie Pippen is probably the most underrated player in NBA history because he was stuck in Jordan's shadow the entire time. LBJ doesn't have a Scottie Pippen. He could come to the Bulls next year, and he still wouldn't have a Scottie Pippen.

[Magnetic Curses]

Can somebody please explain the '94 Bulls to me.

Scottie Pippen is an NBA Hall of Famer and was in the prime of his career and there were some solid guys around him, and the NBA as a whole wasn't all that great in the mid to late 90s.

 

My point is Pippen's supporting cast was worse than Jordan's in '93 and the Bulls wound up 2 wins worse. Scottie Pippen is probably the most underrated player in NBA history because he was stuck in Jordan's shadow the entire time. LBJ doesn't have a Scottie Pippen. He could come to the Bulls next year, and he still wouldn't have a Scottie Pippen.

 

lebron james is scottie pippen.

[Andy]

Can somebody please explain the '94 Bulls to me.

Scottie Pippen is an NBA Hall of Famer and was in the prime of his career and there were some solid guys around him, and the NBA as a whole wasn't all that great in the mid to late 90s.

 

My point is Pippen's supporting cast was worse than Jordan's in '93 and the Bulls wound up 2 wins worse. Scottie Pippen is probably the most underrated player in NBA history because he was stuck in Jordan's shadow the entire time. LBJ doesn't have a Scottie Pippen. He could come to the Bulls next year, and he still wouldn't have a Scottie Pippen.

The '93 Bulls had lots of injuries and the '92 Bulls won 67 games. The '93 Bulls' record isn't really an accurate barometer.

[Magnetic Curses]

you also forget that the bulls added arguably one of the best players in europe in 93-94, too.

[SouthSideRyan]

Can somebody please explain the '94 Bulls to me.

Scottie Pippen is an NBA Hall of Famer and was in the prime of his career and there were some solid guys around him, and the NBA as a whole wasn't all that great in the mid to late 90s.

 

My point is Pippen's supporting cast was worse than Jordan's in '93 and the Bulls wound up 2 wins worse. Scottie Pippen is probably the most underrated player in NBA history because he was stuck in Jordan's shadow the entire time. LBJ doesn't have a Scottie Pippen. He could come to the Bulls next year, and he still wouldn't have a Scottie Pippen.

 

lebron james is scottie pippen.

 

Then he should join the Celtics so he can play with Michael Jordan.

[Magnetic Curses]

lol

[SouthSideRyan]

The '93 Bulls had lots of injuries

 

They did? Jordan, Grant, Armstrong, and Pippen all played at least 77 games.

[Andy]

The '93 Bulls had lots of injuries

 

They did? Jordan, Grant, Armstrong, and Pippen all played at least 77 games.

Those were the only four players on the team.

[Flames24Rulz]

They won 50 games and were the 3 seed.

Yeah, because they had Michael Jordan.

 

Where do you think the Cavs would be with Delonte West playing 35 minutes a game in place of LBJ?

I still think without LeBron that

Mo Williams

Delonte West

Antawn Jamison

Anderson Varejo

Shaquille O'Neal

get around 4th in the East. Easily.

 

Hahahahahahahahaha.

 

No.

 

Without LeBron, the Cavs would be a 7th place team or so in the East. Look at what Rondo's doing to Mo Williams. Do you really think Williams would get the numbers he's been getting the past couple of seasons if LBJ wasn't on his team and if he were the primary option on a team? Of course not. Antawn Jamison has always been an empty player. Delonte West and Shaq are pretty bad players right now. I'll give you Varajao but that's not a very good team without LeBron.

 

Can people please just be rational about this stuff?

[SouthSideRyan]

The '93 Bulls had lots of injuries

 

They did? Jordan, Grant, Armstrong, and Pippen all played at least 77 games.

Those were the only four players on the team.

 

Well, who are you talking about? Cartwright and Paxson were even older and more injured in '94. (And even they played in 63 and 59 games respectively.)

[Flames24Rulz]

Oh and of course it should also go without saying that Mike Brown is one of the worst coaches in the league.

[snoodmonger]

There is no Jordan LeBron comparison at this point No way someone came into Chicago twice in one series and beat em by 20. No way.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_NBA_Playoffs#Eastern_Conference

 

Game 3 @ Chicago: Detroit 101, Chicago 79

Game 4 @ Chicago: Detroit 96, Chicago 77

 

 

Exact same age as LeBron too.

Were the Bulls the overwhelming favorites to win it all in '88? I can't remember. Furthermore it isn't that Jordan can't do any wrong, it's more that LeBron is just massively overrated. Kobe is the closest thing to Mike and LeBron is a guy who could maybe benefit by shooting a few thousand jumpers everyday because when he starts to age and lose his freakish athletic ability, I think his game is gonna fall off big time.

 

Yeah, I don't agree with that at all.

 

It seems like LeBron, with his size and strength, will be fine as he ages. He'll be able to post up other guards, much like Jordan learned to do.

[Guest]

Hahahahahahahahaha.

 

No.

 

Without LeBron, the Cavs would be a 7th place team or so in the East. Look at what Rondo's doing to Mo Williams. Do you really think Williams would get the numbers he's been getting the past couple of seasons if LBJ wasn't on his team and if he were the primary option on a team? Of course not. Antawn Jamison has always been an empty player. Delonte West and Shaq are pretty bad players right now. I'll give you Varajao but that's not a very good team without LeBron.

 

Can people please just be rational about this stuff?

 

Name the 6 teams. Orlando, Boston, Atlanta, and? Milwaukee? Miami?

 

Mo Williams' only improvement in Cleveland has been in 3 point shooting, everything else is either similar or worse(especially assists with LeBron getting so many) than in Milwaukee.