2010 Stanley Cup Playoffs Thread

[jersey cubs fan]

i don't know why people thought the flyers could win this series.

 

Probably because they aren't playing a good team.

 

Plus, for some reason I feel like Philly always has a reputation for being better than their record would show.

[NewUserName]

the favorites don't always prevail

 

in the sharks-red wings series, the favorite is prevailing. actually in every series the favorite is leading right now.

 

you overreacted to the wings playing a great game against the 'yotes. they were fantastic in game seven obviously, but the rest of that series they weren't all that great and they haven't been better than the sharks. yes, if the red wings play their absolute best in every game they will win the stanley cup. but that doesn't happen.

 

First...Sharks are the best team remaining no question.

 

second....all three games this series have been very close. Very easily could be 2-1 either way.

[TruffleShuffle]

i don't know why people thought the flyers could win this series.

 

Probably because they aren't playing a good team.

 

Plus, for some reason I feel like Philly always has a reputation for being better than their record would show.

 

talent-wise they are better, but they have a bad goalie who's become their starter by default and two of their best forwards are out for the series. they didn't really have much of a chance.

[NewUserName]

this round is boring

 

2 series are 3-0 now... ugh

 

both of the EC series have been painful to watch. the games in teh west have been very entertaining.

[Banedon]

the favorites don't always prevail

 

in the sharks-red wings series, the favorite is prevailing. actually in every series the favorite is leading right now.

 

you overreacted to the wings playing a great game against the 'yotes. they were fantastic in game seven obviously, but the rest of that series they weren't all that great and they haven't been better than the sharks. yes, if the red wings play their absolute best in every game they will win the stanley cup. but that doesn't happen.

 

First...Sharks are the best team remaining no question.

 

second....all three games this series have been very close. Very easily could be 2-1 either way.

 

Do they get special t-shirts or something for getting swept as long as the games are all close?

 

"We lost, but not by much!"

[NewUserName]

the favorites don't always prevail

 

in the sharks-red wings series, the favorite is prevailing. actually in every series the favorite is leading right now.

 

you overreacted to the wings playing a great game against the 'yotes. they were fantastic in game seven obviously, but the rest of that series they weren't all that great and they haven't been better than the sharks. yes, if the red wings play their absolute best in every game they will win the stanley cup. but that doesn't happen.

 

First...Sharks are the best team remaining no question.

 

second....all three games this series have been very close. Very easily could be 2-1 either way.

 

Do they get special t-shirts or something for getting swept as long as the games are all close?

 

"We lost, but not by much!"

 

No, but its not like the Wings don't belong or as some are suggesting that they are not an elite team anymore.

[jersey cubs fan]

No, but its not like the Wings don't belong or as some are suggesting that they are not an elite team anymore.

 

Of course they belong, the issue was somebody foolishly claiming they would be the favorite in any series. I think it's debatable if they are elite. I guess it depends on how loosely you define elite. Detroit was clearly among the better playoff teams, so I guess you can call them that, along with a team like Pittsburgh.

[NewUserName]

No, but its not like the Wings don't belong or as some are suggesting that they are not an elite team anymore.

 

Of course they belong, the issue was somebody foolishly claiming they would be the favorite in any series. I think it's debatable if they are elite. I guess it depends on how loosely you define elite. Detroit was clearly among the better playoff teams, so I guess you can call them that, along with a team like Pittsburgh.

 

Who is elite then?

 

I know sneaky made a homerish remark about the Wings being "favorites" but Truffle also made a comment earlier downplaying how good the Wings are. Truth be told the Wings were probably not as great as they were portrayed to be a couple of years ago and they have not fallen that far from that point. It takes some "good bounces" to win the cup and the Wings got them a few years ago and they seem to have all the bounces go against them in this series and pretty much this entire season. Talent wise I still believe they are a top 5 team...which is pretty elite if you ask me

[jersey cubs fan]

No, but its not like the Wings don't belong or as some are suggesting that they are not an elite team anymore.

 

Of course they belong, the issue was somebody foolishly claiming they would be the favorite in any series. I think it's debatable if they are elite. I guess it depends on how loosely you define elite. Detroit was clearly among the better playoff teams, so I guess you can call them that, along with a team like Pittsburgh.

 

Who is elite then?

 

I know sneaky made a homerish remark about the Wings being "favorites" but Truffle also made a comment earlier downplaying how good the Wings are. Truth be told the Wings were probably not as great as they were portrayed to be a couple of years ago and they have not fallen that far from that point. It takes some "good bounces" to win the cup and the Wings got them a few years ago and they seem to have all the bounces go against them in this series and pretty much this entire season. Talent wise I still believe they are a top 5 team...which is pretty elite if you ask me

 

It depends on the sport and the season, but typically I would think there's 2-3 elite teams every year in any league. This season it was pretty clearly Washington, Chicago and San Jose. There's a group below them with Vancouver, Pittsburgh, New Jersey, Detroit that were among the best teams, but that's widening it to 7 teams, or top 25% of the league. I'm not sure you can definitively put Detroit ahead of any of those teams mentioned, save maybe Jersey. There's reason to think Phoenix was right there with Detroit, given their superior record, superior goal differential and taking them to 7 games. Just saying "talent wise" is a cop-out. A team is more than just a collection of talent. And I'm not just talking about something like chemstry. There are plenty of talented players who don't live up to their talent. But Detroit is pretty clearly an older lesser version of what it was the past few years. Not the same elite team. A threat, sure. Quite good, of course. But elite means something much more than just being in the picture.

[Drew Doughty]

honestly i think the wings are the second best team in the west. if the sharks play like they should (which has pretty much always been their only problem in the post-season), i don't think anyone stacks up with them talent-wise. they don't have a weakness. i think you can point to a weakness on every other team. chicago has goaltending and defensive depth concerns. vancouver doesn't have good defensive defensemen. boston doesn't have much offense. pittsburgh has issues with scoring depth and goaltending.

 

san jose is a complete package if they play like they should. they have top end talent, they have scoring depth, they have a good mix of defensemen, and they have goaltending. seems like they finally decided to show up this year.

[UMFan83]

Give credit to San Jose for playing well and building up a 3-0 lead, but it's not like they've barrelled over Detroit thus far. I think San Jose can be beaten. Although I personally think the Blackhawks are the only team that would be able to do it at this point. Maybe Vancouver, depending on who survives (and that series is far from over). I don't think a team in the East could beat SJ if they were playing well.

[TruffleShuffle]

Truth be told the Wings were probably not as great as they were portrayed to be a couple of years ago and they have not fallen that far from that point. It takes some "good bounces" to win the cup and the Wings got them a few years ago and they seem to have all the bounces go against them in this series and pretty much this entire season.

 

teams don't have all the good bounces going for them one year and then against them two years later. that's nonsense. the wings won the president's trophy and the championship two years ago because they were a better team, not because they just had good luck on their side.

 

i think the wings are the 5th best team in the league after SJ, Chi, Van and Pit.

[NewUserName]

Truth be told the Wings were probably not as great as they were portrayed to be a couple of years ago and they have not fallen that far from that point. It takes some "good bounces" to win the cup and the Wings got them a few years ago and they seem to have all the bounces go against them in this series and pretty much this entire season.

 

teams don't have all the good bounces going for them one year and then against them two years later. that's nonsense. the wings won the president's trophy and the championship two years ago because they were a better team, not because they just had good luck on their side.

 

i think the wings are the 5th best team in the league after SJ, Chi, Van and Pit.

 

07/08 the Wings played in a terrible division-Presidents Cup

they played the 8,6 and 5 seeds to get to the finals

Pittsburgh was poorly coached and still somewhat undermanned

 

This year the Wings have 300+ games lost due to injuries and played in a very solid division-5th seed

They have played the 4 and 1 seed so far

 

I really dont think that they are that much below where they were a couple of years ago and were probably a better team last year then the year they won the Cup.

[UMFan83]

Truth be told the Wings were probably not as great as they were portrayed to be a couple of years ago and they have not fallen that far from that point. It takes some "good bounces" to win the cup and the Wings got them a few years ago and they seem to have all the bounces go against them in this series and pretty much this entire season.

 

teams don't have all the good bounces going for them one year and then against them two years later. that's nonsense. the wings won the president's trophy and the championship two years ago because they were a better team, not because they just had good luck on their side.

 

i think the wings are the 5th best team in the league after SJ, Chi, Van and Pit.

 

07/08 the Wings played in a terrible division-Presidents Cup

they played the 8,6 and 5 seeds to get to the finals

Pittsburgh was poorly coached and still somewhat undermanned

 

This year the Wings have 300+ games lost due to injuries and played in a very solid division-5th seed

They have played the 4 and 1 seed so far

 

I really dont think that they are that much below where they were a couple of years ago and were probably a better team last year then the year they won the Cup.

 

That actually makes sense laid out like that. I definitely agree that last years team was probably better than the one that preceeded it. Given that they lost Hossa and Samuelsson among others in the offseason, and given all the injuries they've had, and given how the conference has probably gotten stronger over the last 2 years, it says a lot about the wings that they were not too far from a top 3 seed, and if a few things broke the other way, very alive in a series against the top team in the conference. They are better than they seem.

[sneakypower]

Wings probably would have also won the cup last year if Datsyuk was healthy for the finals, imo

[NewUserName]

Wings probably would have also won the cup last year if Datsyuk was healthy for the finals, imo

 

Lidstrom and Hossa were also playing hurt

[UMFan83]

Wings probably would have also won the cup last year if Datsyuk was healthy for the finals, imo

 

Lidstrom and Hossa were also playing hurt

 

No Hossa is just an unclutch choking loser who is cursed right? right?

[E.J.]

Red Wings have scored 4 goals in the first 12 minutes of the game. I'd say that's a pretty good start.

[Andy]

Red Wings have scored 4 goals in the first 12 minutes of the game. I'd say that's a pretty good start.

All by Johan Franzen. Not bad for 60 percent of one period.

[Derwood]

this Penguins/Candiens game is crazy.....they're just flying up and down the ice with no stoppages

[E.J.]

Red Wings have scored 4 goals in the first 12 minutes of the game. I'd say that's a pretty good start.

All by Johan Franzen. Not bad for 60 percent of one period.

 

All in 5 minutes of play. Crazy.

[Drew Doughty]

i watched the video from tim kerr's 4 goal outburst a few weeks ago. franzen's was pretty reminiscent of that, even if the first goal eventually gets taken away from him.

[NewUserName]

Wings are currently Plus 2 in goals this series :)

[sneakypower]

*sigh*

[NewUserName]

i like San Jose's announcers