04/05 CUBS (Zambrano) @ Atlanta (Lowe) 3:05 CDT, WCIU & ESPN

[Old Style]

Santo: all you can really do is go back to the hotel and cry.

Pat: that's a very mature approach Ron.

:rotfl:

[haubrich91]

That was beyond "suck". Don't even know the name for it. Wait...

 

It was so...Cubs.

[Cubbie Swagger]

So how long until Nady becomes our starting left fielder and Soriano becomes a 100+ million dollar bench player?

[Derwood]

So how long until Nady becomes our starting left fielder and Soriano becomes a 100+ million dollar bench player?

 

without a DL stint, never

[Sammy Sofa]

So how long until Nady becomes our starting left fielder and Soriano becomes a 100+ million dollar bench player?

 

Holy jump to conclusions, Batman.

 

Look, Soriano has his obvious flaws and is overpaid, but it's ridiculous to act like he's already a non-factor this season when he's played one game against a pitcher who would eat him alive even if Soriano was even in the middle of one of his hot streaks.

[gflore34]

So how long until Nady becomes our starting left fielder and Soriano becomes a 100+ million dollar bench player?

 

Holy jump to conclusions, Batman.

 

Look, Soriano has his obvious flaws and is overpaid, but it's ridiculous to act like he's already a non-factor this season when he's played one game against a pitcher who would eat him alive even if Soriano was even in the middle of one of his hot streaks.

 

 

How long does he have to crap the bed before this becomes a reality? I may be jumping to conclusions as well but, he was terrible in spring, pathetic today. I don't think it's far-fetched to conclude he's nearly done and a liablity.

[Sammy Sofa]

So how long until Nady becomes our starting left fielder and Soriano becomes a 100+ million dollar bench player?

 

Holy jump to conclusions, Batman.

 

Look, Soriano has his obvious flaws and is overpaid, but it's ridiculous to act like he's already a non-factor this season when he's played one game against a pitcher who would eat him alive even if Soriano was even in the middle of one of his hot streaks.

 

 

How long does he have to crap the bed before this becomes a reality? I may be jumping to conclusions as well but, he was terrible in spring, pathetic today. I don't think it's far-fetched to conclude he's nearly done and a liablity.

 

Is this serious? THEY'VE PLAYED ONE GAME. Lee, Aramis and Soto sucked in spring training, too, so you better get their replacements lined up as well. He's coming back from a season that he played most of while hurt and he's played one game against a pitcher he likely has little chance against even at his best. To be a liability he'd have to go on a stretch of crappy games at least longer than his usual cold streaks. Deciding that they need to think about benching him after the first game of the season is absurd.

[gflore34]

So how long until Nady becomes our starting left fielder and Soriano becomes a 100+ million dollar bench player?

 

Holy jump to conclusions, Batman.

 

Look, Soriano has his obvious flaws and is overpaid, but it's ridiculous to act like he's already a non-factor this season when he's played one game against a pitcher who would eat him alive even if Soriano was even in the middle of one of his hot streaks.

 

 

How long does he have to crap the bed before this becomes a reality? I may be jumping to conclusions as well but, he was terrible in spring, pathetic today. I don't think it's far-fetched to conclude he's nearly done and a liablity.

 

Is this serious? THEY'VE PLAYED ONE GAME. Lee, Aramis and Soto sucked in spring training, too, so you better get their replacements lined up as well. He's coming back from a season that he played most of while hurt and he's played one game against a pitcher he likely has little chance against even at his best. To be a liability he'd have to go on a stretch of crappy games at least longer than his usual cold streaks. Deciding that they need to think about benching him after the first game of the season is absurd.

 

Agreed I'm being a bit irrattional, give him a chance maybe he'll rebound, I guess, we can only hope.

[David]

So how long until Nady becomes our starting left fielder and Soriano becomes a 100+ million dollar bench player?

 

Holy jump to conclusions, Batman.

 

Look, Soriano has his obvious flaws and is overpaid, but it's ridiculous to act like he's already a non-factor this season when he's played one game against a pitcher who would eat him alive even if Soriano was even in the middle of one of his hot streaks.

 

 

How long does he have to crap the bed before this becomes a reality? I may be jumping to conclusions as well but, he was terrible in spring, pathetic today. I don't think it's far-fetched to conclude he's nearly done and a liablity.

 

Is this serious? THEY'VE PLAYED ONE GAME. Lee, Aramis and Soto sucked in spring training, too, so you better get their replacements lined up as well. He's coming back from a season that he played most of while hurt and he's played one game against a pitcher he likely has little chance against even at his best. To be a liability he'd have to go on a stretch of crappy games at least longer than his usual cold streaks. Deciding that they need to think about benching him after the first game of the season is absurd.

 

 

Last year counts, too. I'm typically pretty optimistic but I really haven't been regarding Soriano. I know he was playing with a bad knee last year, but the possibility also exists (and it's a pretty strong one at that, IMO) that he just sucks now and that his physical abilities aren't going to be good enough to get him past his shortcomings anymore.

 

I just hope they don't keep trotting him out there all season if he sucks for long enough. Unfortunately, his history is such that he could go a whole month or more sucking terribly and then get ridiculously hot. I'm not really sure what to do with him.

[Sammy Sofa]

Sure, he could be done...but nobody has any idea of that after just one game.

[David]

It's not just one game, though.

 

 

I guess you can argue that it's just one game since surgery, if you wanna be all glass half full-y about it.

[Sammy Sofa]

It's not just one game, though.

 

 

I guess you can argue that it's just one game since surgery, if you wanna be all glass half full-y about it.

 

That's not being anything except realistic. Again, given the type of player he is he could be "done," but nobody has any idea at this point after only one game against a pitcher he would normally be terrible facing even at his best.

 

If he's still looking like this a month from now without having a hot streak or two, OK, then there's probably a problem.

[UMFan83]

I kind of assumed the Cubs were going to disband after yesterday's performance. Imagine my surprise when I woke up this morning and they were still there.

[Sosa21MVP]

This thread was so much more entertaining than the Cubs game. I went back and read the whole thing. Nice work. :hello:

[gflore34]

The pitchers walking the world and throwing BP was pretty bad however, the most upsetting aspect of yesterday' game may have been the defense. Theriot playing a pop-up into a hit, Lee with whatever that was on the attempted F3-F1, Zambrano' throw into the stands on Prado advancing to 3B. We saw too much of that stupid [expletive] last year and here we are, seeing it on opening day.

[Cubbie Swagger]

Just for the record, I was halfway joking about Soriano. It is much too early to jump to conclusions about him being done, but it's certainly not unrealistic.

 

I will say that if he puts on an epic display of suck for the first month or two of the season, it makes no sense to keep sending him out there every day. Playing time should be based on production, not salary. I'd give Soriano some more time to turn things around, and if he doesn't, then we give Nady a shot and see what happens.