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Of course, he strikes out the next guy, he's right at the league average. Sample size issue here, just as it is with anything on the first game of the year. Plus, all balls in play are not created equal. Yes, all balls in play give fielders a chance to make mistakes, but not all at the same rate.

 

Agreed. So let's normalize his balls-in-play luck. Even if you credit him with outs for 5 of the 6 balls in play, it was *still* bad pitching. That'd be 5 in-play outs, a strikeout, a hit, two walks and a home run. That's bad.

 

Sample size matters if you are projecting or trying to find a true underlying talent. We aren't. We are trying to find out how good Carlos Zambrano pitched today. And of that, we have our sample is 100% of the possible sample.

 

I saw 6 out of 10 before and missed the home run. I was not trying to say that Z was pitching well, I just thought that the % of balls in play was a poor way to illustrate it.

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and anyone know anything about this Heyward kid? You'd think ESPN would talk about him a bit

 

There's a 0% chance you would be complaining if either you were a Braves fan or if Heyward was on the Cubs.

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and anyone know anything about this Heyward kid? You'd think ESPN would talk about him a bit

 

There's a 0% chance you would be complaining if either you were a Braves fan or if Heyward was on the Cubs.

I hated when ESPN jocked MJ. No, wait, you're right that was pretty awesome.

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and anyone know anything about this Heyward kid? You'd think ESPN would talk about him a bit

 

There's a 0% chance you would be complaining if either you were a Braves fan or if Heyward was on the Cubs.

 

Plus it's silly to think they wouldn't make a big deal out of him with how highly rated and regarded he is around baseball. If Castro continues to look good and get better you'll see somewhat similar hype.

 

Marshall rules.

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Yeah, actually this is really cool seeing Marshall come out of the gate like this. Win or lose.

 

GJ lanky lefty.

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Kyle I hear what your saying man, and on the surface it seems like it would make sense, but I can't see how your argument that you have to miss bats to be a good pitcher works when there have been far too many pitchers, HOF ones at that, who made a living pitching to contact.

 

Name them. I bet almost all of them missed bats at a decent rate.

 

Greg Maddux in the later part of his career (2002-2008) put up a 3.92 ERA and struck out only 14.1% of the batters he faced

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/maddugr01.shtml?redir#2002-2008-sum:pitching_simple

 

I'm at work so I'm not putting a ton of thought into this, so I'm likely to be contradicted, but that's just the first name I thought of when you asked me to name one.

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and anyone know anything about this Heyward kid? You'd think ESPN would talk about him a bit

 

There's a 0% chance you would be complaining if either you were a Braves fan or if Heyward was on the Cubs.

 

"Pujols' off and running"

 

"Heyward's only one behind him"

 

...that was a little much

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and anyone know anything about this Heyward kid? You'd think ESPN would talk about him a bit

 

There's a 0% chance you would be complaining if either you were a Braves fan or if Heyward was on the Cubs.

 

"Pujols' off and running"

 

"Heyward's only one behind him"

 

...that was a little much

 

it was also a joke you weirdo

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