College Basketball 2010-11

[snoodmonger]

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/gillispie-formally-meets-with-ttu-hiring-imminent-29565

 

Gillespie to Texas Tech. Thank u baby Jesus he isn't going to Arkansas.

 

he'd be a much better hire than your dream hire Frank Martin

[Andy]

Filling out my bracket right now and man do I hate the Southeast Region. I can see any one of about seven or eight teams winning that thing.

I'm not remotely exaggerating when I say that any of the top 12 seeds could end up in Houston from the Southeast and I wouldn't be surprised.

[illiniguy]

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/gillispie-formally-meets-with-ttu-hiring-imminent-29565

 

Gillespie to Texas Tech. Thank u baby Jesus he isn't going to Arkansas.

 

he'd be a much better hire than your dream hire Frank Martin

By far, just get him a driver and you are set.

[Derwood]

All the play-in games should be between bubble teams. Automatic qualifiers shouldn't have to play an extra game, no matter how small their school/conference is

[fromthestretch]

I told you fools on Dec. 29th 2009 (at Iowa, his first B1G game) that Kelsey Barlow was a total punk. I'm glad to see he lived up to my expectations.

 

Most of the Big Ten, including the vast majority of Purdue fans, already knew he was a punk well before that. You would be hard-pressed to find anyone that holds him in high regard.

[illiniguy]

How stupid am I for having Duke, OSU, Purdue, and Pitt

Then OSU over Purdue?

[bukie]

It's not much different from the bracket I have with a final four of Ohio State, Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin.

 

...what?

[UMFan83]

All the play-in games should be between bubble teams. Automatic qualifiers shouldn't have to play an extra game, no matter how small their school/conference is

 

Or maybe it would be fun to somehow have the same 8 teams, but have the last 4 at larges each play the last 4 automatic qualifiers. At least you could have some drama there with tiny schools playing major programs. It probably sucks for these schools to win their conference tournament and then have to play another crappy school no ones heard of before to really "get in"

 

Texas-San Antonio vs. UNC Asheville really doesn't do it for me at all. Texas-SA vs. Clemson might get me to watch to see if the little guy can stay competitive against a major conference team.

 

Just a thought...not my preferred way but another idea.

[illiniguy]

It's not much different from the bracket I have with a final four of Ohio State, Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin.

 

...what?

Damn sold on the Big Ten I guess?

[bukie]

It's not much different from the bracket I have with a final four of Ohio State, Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin.

 

...what?

Damn sold on the Big Ten I guess?

Nah, I always do a homer bracket every year for fun, just in case the Big Ten goes berserk. I think it actually worked a couple times.

[SouthSideRyan]

All the play-in games should be between bubble teams. Automatic qualifiers shouldn't have to play an extra game, no matter how small their school/conference is

 

Or maybe it would be fun to somehow have the same 8 teams, but have the last 4 at larges each play the last 4 automatic qualifiers. At least you could have some drama there with tiny schools playing major programs. It probably sucks for these schools to win their conference tournament and then have to play another crappy school no ones heard of before to really "get in"

 

Texas-San Antonio vs. UNC Asheville really doesn't do it for me at all. Texas-SA vs. Clemson might get me to watch to see if the little guy can stay competitive against a major conference team.

 

Just a thought...not my preferred way but another idea.

 

Those 16 seeds would almost never win. Better to guarantee those tiny schools 2 spots in the real tournament than 1 every 8 years.

Edited March 17, 2011 by SouthSideRyan

[UMFan83]

Filling out my bracket right now and man do I hate the Southeast Region. I can see any one of about seven or eight teams winning that thing.

 

I've never had a more difficult region to fill out than the SE region this year. I kept wanting to pick St. Johns to go to the Final Four, but decided to say screw it and picked Pittsburgh vs. Florida in the Elite 8. They are both schools that I'm really not big on. Florida is horribly seeded at #2, but at the end of the day, you have BYU without Davies, Wisconsin and their recent tourament history, KState with a underseeded Utah State in the 1st round. Can't pick Utah State because I might as well burn my money if I think a 12 seed is going to the final 4.

 

insane region.

[bukie]

All the play-in games should be between bubble teams. Automatic qualifiers shouldn't have to play an extra game, no matter how small their school/conference is

 

Or maybe it would be fun to somehow have the same 8 teams, but have the last 4 at larges each play the last 4 automatic qualifiers. At least you could have some drama there with tiny schools playing major programs. It probably sucks for these schools to win their conference tournament and then have to play another crappy school no ones heard of before to really "get in"

 

Texas-San Antonio vs. UNC Asheville really doesn't do it for me at all. Texas-SA vs. Clemson might get me to watch to see if the little guy can stay competitive against a major conference team.

 

Just a thought...not my preferred way but another idea.

The problem there is...where do you stick the winner? It's essentially a 12 seed vs. a 16 seed. A 1 seed has earned better than to play the 12 seed in their first game, and the 16 seeds chosen for the First Four haven't earned the right to play a lower seed. It would essentially make it so you'd want to be one of the worst four auto-bids so you could avoid the 1 seeds.

[UMFan83]

It's not much different from the bracket I have with a final four of Ohio State, Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin.

 

...what?

Damn sold on the Big Ten I guess?

Nah, I always do a homer bracket every year for fun, just in case the Big Ten goes berserk. I think it actually worked a couple times.

 

05 with MSU and Illinois?

[UMFan83]

All the play-in games should be between bubble teams. Automatic qualifiers shouldn't have to play an extra game, no matter how small their school/conference is

 

Or maybe it would be fun to somehow have the same 8 teams, but have the last 4 at larges each play the last 4 automatic qualifiers. At least you could have some drama there with tiny schools playing major programs. It probably sucks for these schools to win their conference tournament and then have to play another crappy school no ones heard of before to really "get in"

 

Texas-San Antonio vs. UNC Asheville really doesn't do it for me at all. Texas-SA vs. Clemson might get me to watch to see if the little guy can stay competitive against a major conference team.

 

Just a thought...not my preferred way but another idea.

The problem there is...where do you stick the winner? It's essentially a 12 seed vs. a 16 seed. A 1 seed has earned better than to play the 12 seed in their first game, and the 16 seeds chosen for the First Four haven't earned the right to play a lower seed. It would essentially make it so you'd want to be one of the worst four auto-bids so you could avoid the 1 seeds.

 

I know...its not a well thought out plan. I'm just throwing ideas out there that would specifically make those play-in games slightly more interesting. I'm all for letting all automatic qualifiers into the tournament and letting the last 8 at large teams play for the four 12 seeds.

[bukie]

It's not much different from the bracket I have with a final four of Ohio State, Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin.

 

...what?

Damn sold on the Big Ten I guess?

Nah, I always do a homer bracket every year for fun, just in case the Big Ten goes berserk. I think it actually worked a couple times.

 

05 with MSU and Illinois?

 

Yeah, and I think 2000 where Wisconsin made it as an 8 seed.

 

My rational bracket has a final four of Ohio State, San Diego State (geographical advantage!), Kansas and Florida (more geographical advantage!).

OSU over Kansas in the final.

[bukie]

All the play-in games should be between bubble teams. Automatic qualifiers shouldn't have to play an extra game, no matter how small their school/conference is

 

Or maybe it would be fun to somehow have the same 8 teams, but have the last 4 at larges each play the last 4 automatic qualifiers. At least you could have some drama there with tiny schools playing major programs. It probably sucks for these schools to win their conference tournament and then have to play another crappy school no ones heard of before to really "get in"

 

Texas-San Antonio vs. UNC Asheville really doesn't do it for me at all. Texas-SA vs. Clemson might get me to watch to see if the little guy can stay competitive against a major conference team.

 

Just a thought...not my preferred way but another idea.

The problem there is...where do you stick the winner? It's essentially a 12 seed vs. a 16 seed. A 1 seed has earned better than to play the 12 seed in their first game, and the 16 seeds chosen for the First Four haven't earned the right to play a lower seed. It would essentially make it so you'd want to be one of the worst four auto-bids so you could avoid the 1 seeds.

 

I know...its not a well thought out plan. I'm just throwing ideas out there that would specifically make those play-in games slightly more interesting. I'm all for letting all automatic qualifiers into the tournament and letting the last 8 at large teams play for the four 12 seeds.

 

I still think the only thing that will gather interest for an extra opening round is by expanding the tournament to 96 teams so the top 8 seeds get a bye and everyone else gets a vaguely winnable game. It'd be easy to incorporate it into the bracket pool, it would give every team a reasonably winnable game, and it would make the first round meaningful.

[SouthSideRyan]

Was wasting some time on kenpom, and I'm wondering if Northwestern held on vs OSU in the BTT would've put them in the tourney. Considering how highly the Big Ten appeared to be rated by the committee I wouldn't be shocked. How bout if they held on and then beat MSU?

[bukie]

Was wasting some time on kenpom, and I'm wondering if Northwestern held on vs OSU in the BTT would've put them in the tourney. Considering how highly the Big Ten appeared to be rated by the committee I wouldn't be shocked. How bout if they held on and then beat MSU?

If Northwestern had beat MSU in the BTT, they'd have garnered the league's auto bid, so then yes, they'd have been in the tournament. ;)

 

Seriously, though, I doubt it would have been enough to get them into the tournament, but if they had held on vs. OSU, they'd have at least been in the same discussion as USC, VCU and UAB.

[SouthSideRyan]

Was wasting some time on kenpom, and I'm wondering if Northwestern held on vs OSU in the BTT would've put them in the tourney. Considering how highly the Big Ten appeared to be rated by the committee I wouldn't be shocked. How bout if they held on and then beat MSU?

If Northwestern had beat MSU in the BTT, they'd have garnered the league's auto bid, so then yes, they'd have been in the tournament. ;)

 

Seriously, though, I doubt it would have been enough to get them into the tournament, but if they had held on vs. OSU, they'd have at least been in the same discussion as USC, VCU and UAB.

 

Err Michigan

[bukie]

On a side note, damn it, Saint Mary's. That's not the way to show you deserved to be in the real tournament.

[Jon]

Was wasting some time on kenpom, and I'm wondering if Northwestern held on vs OSU in the BTT would've put them in the tourney. Considering how highly the Big Ten appeared to be rated by the committee I wouldn't be shocked. How bout if they held on and then beat MSU?

Nope. I spent some time looking at it a few days ago and talking to some other NU fans. The problem is Northwestern's SOS. I posed the question whether beating Ohio State in the first matchup, plus a regular season win over a Penn State (not close either time) or Michigan State (very close both times and should've won the road game), would have been enough. Obviously that would have changed the BTT seeding, but I came to the conclusion that two such wins would have gotten Northwestern into the tournament. If I compared NU in that scenario with Penn State's actual resume, I would have had to take NU.

 

Had the season played out the same but Northwestern hung on to beat Ohio State in the BTT, it would have required a run to the championship game to get them on the bubble. SOS would still have been a huge negative, but really the only one considering they would have beaten Ohio State on a neutral court. Perhaps then it would have come down to the winner between Northwestern and Penn State in the championship. Both probably wouldn't have made it.

[Guest]

How stupid am I for having Duke, OSU, Purdue, and Pitt

Then OSU over Purdue?

 

I hope you're not stupid. I have OSU over Purdue and I also have Pitt in the F4.

[bukie]

I'm just realizing this now, but...what the hell, committee? You put Clemson in the first overall game on Thursday?

[Guest]

To be fair, Clemson hadn't won a tournament game since the Truman administration, so they probably figured the Tuesday game would be decided by halftime.