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analysts are making predictions based on his unique abilities and skillset. It's what they do. You sound ridiculous.

 

I'm not talking about professional analysis. I'm talking about buzz, hype, etc., you know that stuff generated by fans and the masses.

 

And it's not half as ridiculous as saying he's the best pitcher in the game after his first start.

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I can't count the times I heard HOF-caliber or historically good used in regards to Strasburg. People have been talking about him as if he some sort of singular force of nature. Hell, saying he's the best pitcher in MLB right now is preposterous enough on it's own.

 

He has amazing talent, polish and a huge ceiling, but saying anything beyond that is just premature.

 

Why is it premature to say he could be HOF-worthy or one of the best ever? When is it ever premature for "could be?"

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analysts are making predictions based on his unique abilities and skillset. It's what they do. You sound ridiculous.

 

I'm not talking about professional analysis. I'm talking about buzz, hype, etc., you know that stuff generated by fans and the masses.

 

And it's not half as ridiculous as saying he's the best pitcher in the game after his first start.

 

so you're basically saying that you know better than the uninformed masses. congrats, i guess? I don't see why you think this is worth talking about.

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analysts are making predictions based on his unique abilities and skillset. It's what they do. You sound ridiculous.

 

I'm not talking about professional analysis. I'm talking about buzz, hype, etc., you know that stuff generated by fans and the masses.

 

And it's not half as ridiculous as saying he's the best pitcher in the game after his first start.

 

so you're basically saying that you know better than the uninformed masses. congrats, i guess? I don't see why you think this is worth talking about.

 

I'm saying people get carried away with hype.

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analysts are making predictions based on his unique abilities and skillset. It's what they do. You sound ridiculous.

 

I'm not talking about professional analysis. I'm talking about buzz, hype, etc., you know that stuff generated by fans and the masses.

 

And it's not half as ridiculous as saying he's the best pitcher in the game after his first start.

 

so you're basically saying that you know better than the uninformed masses. congrats, i guess? I don't see why you think this is worth talking about.

 

I'm saying people get carried away with hype.

 

well that's new information

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no, im being serious, there was nothing i saw tonight that made me think he'd be special. lots of players K 14 in their first start *oh wait that's never happened*

 

Oh [expletive], you got me.

 

Oh, wait. you didn't.

 

I didn't say he wouldn't be special, I said I didn't think he'd live up to the hype (you know, the he'll be historically good-get his HOF bust ready stuff). It was really, really impressive. But it was one game, and it was the Pirates. What Kerry did was far more impressive, and we know how that one turned out. Strasburg has a better command of his repertoire, and looks like a special pitcher. But a lot of people are having hyperbole laced, premature baseball ejaculations over the guy.

 

He's good, but he's not pitching Jesus.

 

playing devil's advocate is only fun as long as you don't make yourself look like an idiot in the process

 

Try following your own advice there, champ.

 

Anyway, Strasburg was very impressive tonight. I liked what I saw. I'm really liking all the young talent that's either in the Majors or not too far away from it. You have one hell of a who's who 10 years from now: Lincecum, Strasburg, Harper, Castro, Chapman, Mauer, Heyward, and probably a dozen or so more guys I won't name right now. It just seems like the talent level coming up is on another level from a lot of the young talent we've seen at any other point.

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analysts are making predictions based on his unique abilities and skillset. It's what they do. You sound ridiculous.

 

I'm not talking about professional analysis. I'm talking about buzz, hype, etc., you know that stuff generated by fans and the masses.

 

And it's not half as ridiculous as saying he's the best pitcher in the game after his first start.

 

so you're basically saying that you know better than the uninformed masses. congrats, i guess? I don't see why you think this is worth talking about.

 

I'm saying people get carried away with hype.

 

well that's new information

 

Yeah, and that's pretty much all I have been saying.

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no, im being serious, there was nothing i saw tonight that made me think he'd be special. lots of players K 14 in their first start *oh wait that's never happened*

 

Oh [expletive], you got me.

 

Oh, wait. you didn't.

 

I didn't say he wouldn't be special, I said I didn't think he'd live up to the hype (you know, the he'll be historically good-get his HOF bust ready stuff). It was really, really impressive. But it was one game, and it was the Pirates. What Kerry did was far more impressive, and we know how that one turned out. Strasburg has a better command of his repertoire, and looks like a special pitcher. But a lot of people are having hyperbole laced, premature baseball ejaculations over the guy.

 

He's good, but he's not pitching Jesus.

 

playing devil's advocate is only fun as long as you don't make yourself look like an idiot in the process

 

Try following your own advice there, champ.

 

Anyway, Strasburg was very impressive tonight. I liked what I saw. I'm really liking all the young talent that's either in the Majors or not too far away from it. You have one hell of a who's who 10 years from now: Lincecum, Strasburg, Harper, Castro, Chapman, Mauer, Heyward, and probably a dozen or so more guys I won't name right now. It just seems like the talent level coming up is on another level from a lot of the young talent we've seen at any other point.

 

erik, please refrain from unprovoked personal attacks, we were trying to have a riveting discussion here.

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is putting casto's name in there with those guys supposed to be sarcasm or is there like a billy castro that is tearing up AA for the mets or something?
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14 k's and zero walks? [expletive]

 

and only 94 pitches. if he wasn't on a pitch count, it would have been even higher

 

If there was ever a game to loosen the reigns on his pitch count it was this one. Could've given him a chance at an MLB record that likely would've stuck for a long time, while at the same time giving the people who showed up an even better pitching performance the the one they actually got. It's already going to be remembered as one of the most dominating pitching debuts in history, but it could've been THE most dominating in history if they just loosened up and let him go to 110 just this one time. It was a special game, they should've made a special circumstance

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14 k's and zero walks? [expletive]

 

and only 94 pitches. if he wasn't on a pitch count, it would have been even higher

 

If there was ever a game to loosen the reigns on his pitch count it was this one. Could've given him a chance at an MLB record that likely would've stuck for a long time, while at the same time giving the people who showed up an even better pitching performance the the one they actually got. It's already going to be remembered as one of the most dominating pitching debuts in history, but it could've been THE most dominating in history if they just loosened up and let him go to 110 just this one time. It was a special game, they should've made a special circumstance

 

Du.. Dusty?

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Oh please. He beat up the Pirates, which are the equivalent of the AAA teams he's been facing.

 

OK, he's got some wicked stuff, no doubt. I just want to see what he can do against a team that can actually hit the ball.

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since 1900, strasburg is only the 6th pitcher to throw 7 innings or less, strike out 14 or more, and walk none. not the 6th player to do it in his debut, the 6th player to do it at all.

 

and lol @ setting the franchise k record in your first start

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Oh please. He beat up the Pirates, which are the equivalent of the AAA teams he's been facing.

 

OK, he's got some wicked stuff, no doubt. I just want to see what he can do against a team that can actually hit the ball.

 

the same pirates team that is like .900 against us.

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I really can't believe how impressive that debut was.

 

+1

I think what he did was beyond anyone's expectations.

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What I saw of Strasburg was very impressive. Reminded me of Kerry Wood's 20K game a bit. An overpowering fastball with a wicked curve. I'm looking forward to seeing him pitch more to see if can keep this up.
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Oh please. He beat up the Pirates, which are the equivalent of the AAA teams he's been facing.

 

OK, he's got some wicked stuff, no doubt. I just want to see what he can do against a team that can actually hit the ball.

 

the pirates are significantly better than a AAA team. nobody's farm team is as good as any major league team.

 

he'll probably still do really well against teams that can "actually hit the ball" because he throws 100 mph, locates really well and has a great curveball and very good changeup. it might not be a stretch to say that he has the best pure stuff of any starting pitcher who's ever picked up a baseball.

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Somewhere Walter Johnson is weeping that another phenom pitcher is going to go to waste in DC.

 

Although I guess the real reason Big Train is crying could be that he sees how much Strasburg is making already.

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Oh please. He beat up the Pirates, which are the equivalent of the AAA teams he's been facing.

 

OK, he's got some wicked stuff, no doubt. I just want to see what he can do against a team that can actually hit the ball.

 

the same pirates team that is like .900 against us.

we're probably like a AA team

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Oh please. He beat up the Pirates, which are the equivalent of the AAA teams he's been facing.

 

OK, he's got some wicked stuff, no doubt. I just want to see what he can do against a team that can actually hit the ball.

 

Didn't Silva strike out 11 Pirates in a game?

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Oh please. He beat up the Pirates, which are the equivalent of the AAA teams he's been facing.

 

OK, he's got some wicked stuff, no doubt. I just want to see what he can do against a team that can actually hit the ball.

 

Didn't Silva strike out 11 Pirates in a game?

 

No. Silva only struck out 5 Pirates. His 11 strikeout game was against the Cardinals.

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14 k's and zero walks? [expletive]

 

and only 94 pitches. if he wasn't on a pitch count, it would have been even higher

 

If there was ever a game to loosen the reigns on his pitch count it was this one. Could've given him a chance at an MLB record that likely would've stuck for a long time, while at the same time giving the people who showed up an even better pitching performance the the one they actually got. It's already going to be remembered as one of the most dominating pitching debuts in history, but it could've been THE most dominating in history if they just loosened up and let him go to 110 just this one time. It was a special game, they should've made a special circumstance

 

that's just absolutely ridiculous.

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