Yanks Inquire about Zambrano

[Sever82]

http://chicagocubsonline.com/archives/2009/12/cubsrumors12219.php

 

According to ESPN the Yanks asked about Zambrano. Though i'm not sure if it was recently or older news. Would you guys entertain a big Z trade?

 

I would definitely ship Zambrano if it nets the cubs Cano, Melky and maybe a starter. Asking for hughes might be too much, not sure though.

[Derwood]

Rotoworld's take is that the Cubs' asking price would be too steep

[Sever82]

From the article it sounds like it. I wonder if the cubs asked for like Cano, Melky, Hughes, and another highly regarded player. I would definitely ask for Cabrera and Cano but the third player i wouldn't ask for hughes or Joba because i think that would be asking for too much.

[davell]

I think Z would probably waive the NTC to play for the Yanks, unless it's true that he won't play in the AL, since he wouldn't be able to bat......That said, assuming he would waive it, I'd certainly explore it to see what you could get out of them. Unfortunately, my guess is the Yanks wouldn't offer much, other than payroll relief and probably Cabrera.

[Sever82]

I think Z would probably waive the NTC to play for the Yanks, unless it's true that he won't play in the AL, since he wouldn't be able to bat......That said, assuming he would waive it, I'd certainly explore it to see what you could get out of them. Unfortunately, my guess is the Yanks wouldn't offer much, other than payroll relief and probably Cabrera.

 

I want to say he was quoted as saying he would waive his no trade for any of the NY teams and named the yankees specifically. I dont think you explore a trade involving Z if the centerpiece is cabrera. If i'm the cubs i would ask for a trade centered around Cano. With Cano, you'd be locked in for a 2B for your future.

[jersey cubs fan]

If that's what it takes to get Melky, I'm on board.

[erik316wttn]

I don't think the time is right to trade Z at this moment. Our rotation already took a big hit with Harden leaving. If you trade Z without getting a quality starter in return it takes another hit. Sure, Cano would be nice and I'd love to see him in a Cubs uniform, but I've never been a big fan of creating one hole to fill another.

[UMFan83]

F you were determined to trade Z this would probably be a good fit as theoretically the Yankees would probably consider his contract to be less of an issue than any other team giving the Cubs some leverage to get a good deal.

[Sever82]

I don't think the time is right to trade Z at this moment. Our rotation already took a big hit with Harden leaving. If you trade Z without getting a quality starter in return it takes another hit. Sure, Cano would be nice and I'd love to see him in a Cubs uniform, but I've never been a big fan of creating one hole to fill another.

 

Thats understandable but If you could net Cano and Melky in a trade, you fill two holes and dont have to waste money on Byrd. Which you could then use the money to sign maybe Capps and a Starting pitcher. Plus with the money Z saves you, you can add two starters. Maybe signing sheets to a incentive deal and adding another arm as insurance.

[YearofDaCubs]

I'd give him Z only if it meant they would take Soriano with him as well.

[Sever82]

I'd give him Z only if it meant they would take Soriano with him as well.

 

Yeah thats not going to happen, they would already be doing the cubs a favor by taking on Zs contract. When he's on, Z is worth his contract but he's overpaid in my opinion.

[erik316wttn]

I don't think the time is right to trade Z at this moment. Our rotation already took a big hit with Harden leaving. If you trade Z without getting a quality starter in return it takes another hit. Sure, Cano would be nice and I'd love to see him in a Cubs uniform, but I've never been a big fan of creating one hole to fill another.

 

Thats understandable but If you could net Cano and Melky in a trade, you fill two holes and dont have to waste money on Byrd. Which you could then use the money to sign maybe Capps and a Starting pitcher. Plus with the money Z saves you, you can add two starters. Maybe signing sheets to a incentive deal and adding another arm as insurance.

 

If this is what would happen, then I'd trade Z today. However, I don't trust Jim Hendry to do it. He'd probably get back Melky and some B-level prospects, then go out and overpay for some mediocre-at-best starter with the money he saves with Z.

[Guest]

This sounds like the Yankess going, "well, if the Cubs will give up Milton Bradley for Carlos Silva, let's see if we have any crap they'll take for Zambrano."

[Sever82]

This sounds like the Yankess going, "well, if the Cubs will give up Milton Bradley for Carlos Silva, let's see if we have any crap they'll take for Zambrano."

 

Ha ha yeah i immediately thought that and reading some of the comments from Yanks fans. It sounds like they feel they could just ship gardner for Z since they'll be taking on his contract.

[Shilzzz]

Well, now that we got Silva, I think we can feel more comfortable letting Zambrano go. I mean, Cano and Cabrera fill needs of this team, so, go for it. Starting rotation will be fine.

 

Lilly

Dempster

Silva

Wells

Gorz

 

I mean, that's as good as what anyone else is throwing out there. :good:

 

 

This is why we can't have nice things.

[Wrigley Rat]

I would prefer to not trade Zambrano, but if a trade could be worked out like this, I would consider it:

 

Yankees get:

Carlos Zambrano

Carlos Silva

Solid Prospect

 

Cubs get:

Robinson Cano (who is great but overpaid in 2012 and 2013)

Melky Cabrera (who I think is a 4th OF'er)

a lower level pitching prospect

 

The Cubs get a middle of the lineup lefty (Cano) for four years, a replacement level CFer, and salary relief. The Yankees get a top of the rotation starter and a solid prospect. I don't think it would happen, but that's what I would need to make the trade.

[davearm2]

I'd give him Z only if it meant they would take Soriano with him as well.

The notion of trading Zambrano and Soriano (even if it's for nothing more than a PTBNL), then dumping Hendry and embarking on a full-fledged rebuild is a fascinating one.

 

If they shed Z's and Soriano's contracts, after 2010 the Cubs would be virtually free of all their long-term, big $$$ commitments. All they'd have left on the books, not including their own arby guys, would be Dempster for 2 years, Fukudome for 1 year, and Ramirez for 1 year (assuming he didn't opt out), plus whatever they owe on Silva.

 

For a team that can support a $140M payroll, that obviously creates a whole ton of available $$$ to spend on the 2011 free agent class.

 

This roster could be vastly different in 12 or so months if they did this deal with the Yanks.

[jersey cubs fan]

I would prefer to not trade Zambrano, but if a trade could be worked out like this, I would consider it:

 

Yankees get:

Carlos Zambrano

Carlos Silva

Solid Prospect

 

Cubs get:

Robinson Cano (who is great but overpaid in 2012 and 2013)

Melky Cabrera (who I think is a 4th OF'er)

a lower level pitching prospect

 

The Cubs get a middle of the lineup lefty (Cano) for four years, a replacement level CFer, and salary relief. The Yankees get a top of the rotation starter and a solid prospect. I don't think it would happen, but that's what I would need to make the trade.

 

It leaves them with financial flexibility, but nobody to spend it on.

[Shilzzz]

Hendry's extension

[rocket]

the yankeees aren't trading their 27 year old .870 OPSing second baseman for carlos friggin zambrano. if anything, they might dump swisher or cabrera for zambrano. i'm not all that interested.

 

but if cashman is a total moron and for some reason wants to trade us cano, then by all means hendry go for it.

[inari]

the yankeees aren't trading their 27 year old .870 OPSing second baseman for carlos friggin zambrano. if anything, they might dump swisher or cabrera for zambrano. i'm not all that interested.

 

but if cashman is a total moron and for some reason wants to trade us cano, then by all means hendry go for it.

 

I'm glad someone said this. There is literally no way Zambrano would net Cano, much less a package of Cano and others.

[Post Count Padder]

the yankeees aren't trading their 27 year old .870 OPSing second baseman for carlos friggin zambrano. if anything, they might dump swisher or cabrera for zambrano. i'm not all that interested.

 

but if cashman is a total moron and for some reason wants to trade us cano, then by all means hendry go for it.

 

I'm glad someone said this. There is literally no way Zambrano would net Cano, much less a package of Cano and others.

It's nice to think about, but yeah, the Yankees are in love with Cano. I could see them sending Melky and Hughes, but not with Cano involved.

[Rob]

The Yankees wont offer anything of real worth besides financial relief and a junk piece like Cabrera and there isn't anywhere on the market we could spend that extra money to cover the loss in production.

 

They wont trade Cano. They wont trade Joba. They wont trade Montero.

 

Yeah, on the surface if they offered Hughes and Gardner plus taking on the whole contract, we'd probably be coming out ahead in the deal. But we're right around the tipping point of really competing versus not, and losing that marginal production Zambrano gives us over what those two would provide simply makes any deal not worth it... not unless they're willing to give up more than we'd expect.

[jersey cubs fan]

But we could get Melky!!!

[Guest]

My feelings: article