NCAA Conference Realignment

[Butterscup1679666578]

Man I can't wait til this [expletive] is over with one way or the other.

[jersey cubs fan]

Missouri in the Big Ten makes sense.

 

What I'm not sure about is why they extended ND an offer when the athletic director has been saying only a seismic shift would make that happen. Pre-emptive move I guess?

 

You're not sure why they would extend an offer to ND?

In light of the statements coming from the athletic department, yes. Especially after all those reports that the Big Ten wasn't going to offer them anything and that they'd basically have to beg on their knees to get membership.

 

Statements aren't all that meaningful, actions speak louder than words, and it was quite obvious all along that the big ten was going to make a push for ND. Nobody should be surprised that they would make an offer.

[SouthSideRyan]

Texas didn't stop you guys from being relevant that one year you weren't picked for the BCS.

 

Texas would've been the best team in the Big Ten that year.

 

If you're argumentative and hyperbolic with every post you make, no one is going to take you seriously.

 

I wasn't being hyperbolic; I just think the Big Ten was crap in 2007.

 

Texas managed to avoid Kansas and Missouri, and still finished with 3 losses in conference. They weren't any good that year.

[Andy]

Missouri in the Big Ten makes sense.

 

What I'm not sure about is why they extended ND an offer when the athletic director has been saying only a seismic shift would make that happen. Pre-emptive move I guess?

 

You're not sure why they would extend an offer to ND?

In light of the statements coming from the athletic department, yes. Especially after all those reports that the Big Ten wasn't going to offer them anything and that they'd basically have to beg on their knees to get membership.

 

Statements aren't all that meaningful, actions speak louder than words, and it was quite obvious all along that the big ten was going to make a push for ND. Nobody should be surprised that they would make an offer.

Fair enough. I think I'm more with Butters's post three above this one than I am any other in this thread.

[SouthSideRyan]

Missouri in the Big Ten makes sense.

 

What I'm not sure about is why they extended ND an offer when the athletic director has been saying only a seismic shift would make that happen. Pre-emptive move I guess?

 

You're not sure why they would extend an offer to ND?

In light of the statements coming from the athletic department, yes. Especially after all those reports that the Big Ten wasn't going to offer them anything and that they'd basically have to beg on their knees to get membership.

 

Swarbick has been over the place with his statements. You can't read much of anything into it. No AD is going to come out and say, yep, we're going.

[snoodmonger]

Big Ten makes offer according to KC radio station

Missouri, Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Rutgers

 

Nebraska Chancellor says the report is bogus.

 

http://my.journalstar.com/post/Husker_Extra_Group/Husker_Extra/blog/perlman_report_untrue.html

[EhDubya]

 

Yes my ideal and what I feel would be best for the conference is Texas, A&M, ND, Pitt, and Syracuse. Academically and athletically these are the best matches.

 

Not to mention the most important factor, the super conference's name. This mix of teams would give a total of 16 schools representing 10 different states...

 

It can remain the Big Ten.

[NCCubFan]

Jim Delaney denies the rumors.

[MSG T]

 

Lol. I can't wait to hear Mizzou bitching about being disrespected by the original members of the conference. Hell Iowa's got to be thrilled by this development as they are no longer the back door to the Big 10.

 

This also means Misery won't be able to back out of a 4 game series with Iowa at the last minute. Regardless of how the conference is aligned, Misery and Iowa will be in the same division, playing every year. Hope they're ready for that first trip to Kinnick in 2012 or 2013.

[Butterscup1679666578]

lol

[Ding Dong Johnson]

lol

I don't like your attitude

[SouthSideRyan]

Man, does anyone like Missouri??

[jersey cubs fan]

[da bears]

bringing out the misery insult, huh? i dont know how to respond to such devastating insults.

[MSG T]

bringing out the misery insult, huh? i dont know how to respond to such devastating insults.

 

 

Considering my mom is from MO, and pretty much her entire family still lives there, I think I have as much right to make fun as anyone. Don't worry, I think much more highly of those from Misery than I do of those from Minnesota.

 

Besides, they did back out of a 4 game deal with Iowa at the last second. Less than 6 months before the first of those, IIRC.

[Butterscup1679666578]

THATS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL

[MSG T]

 

 

=D>

[da bears]

THATS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL

nope. not only that, but they only backed out of the first two. iowa dropped the last two. AND, perhaps the craziest thing yet, only the athletic department had anything to do with it. not missouri fans. but, maybe if he keeps bitching about it, we can go back in time and change the outcome.

[da bears]

bringing out the misery insult, huh? i dont know how to respond to such devastating insults.

 

 

Considering my mom is from MO, and pretty much her entire family still lives there, I think I have as much right to make fun as anyone. Don't worry, I think much more highly of those from Misery than I do of those from Minnesota.

 

Besides, they did back out of a 4 game deal with Iowa at the last second. Less than 6 months before the first of those, IIRC.

if you wanna make fun of people from missouri, try and be a little more creative than misery. it makes you look like a 10 year old.

[MSG T]

bringing out the misery insult, huh? i dont know how to respond to such devastating insults.

 

 

Considering my mom is from MO, and pretty much her entire family still lives there, I think I have as much right to make fun as anyone. Don't worry, I think much more highly of those from Misery than I do of those from Minnesota.

 

Besides, they did back out of a 4 game deal with Iowa at the last second. Less than 6 months before the first of those, IIRC.

if you wanna make fun of people from missouri, try and be a little more creative than misery. it makes you look like a 10 year old.

 

 

Ok, how about this. You can have the southern two tiers of counties in Iowa and the IQ in both states goes up.

[snoodmonger]

bringing out the misery insult, huh? i dont know how to respond to such devastating insults.

 

 

Considering my mom is from MO, and pretty much her entire family still lives there, I think I have as much right to make fun as anyone. Don't worry, I think much more highly of those from Misery than I do of those from Minnesota.

 

Besides, they did back out of a 4 game deal with Iowa at the last second. Less than 6 months before the first of those, IIRC.

if you wanna make fun of people from missouri, try and be a little more creative than misery. it makes you look like a 10 year old.

 

this coming from the people who think the ultimate burn is to leave the "K" lowercase in KU.

[evv98]

bringing out the misery insult, huh? i dont know how to respond to such devastating insults.

 

 

Considering my mom is from MO, and pretty much her entire family still lives there, I think I have as much right to make fun as anyone. Don't worry, I think much more highly of those from Misery than I do of those from Minnesota.

 

Besides, they did back out of a 4 game deal with Iowa at the last second. Less than 6 months before the first of those, IIRC.

 

It doesn't really matter at this point. Missouri would have probably beaten the Hawkeyes like a drum in that series anyway. As chance has it, the series was scheduled during one of the few times in the past 30 years that Missouri actually had a football team that could beat Iowa so it ended up hurting Missouri more than it helped.

 

Its a good thing Iowa is on top again.

[Guest]

this coming from the people who think the ultimate burn is to leave the "K" lowercase in KU.

 

The k stands for hessians or something.

[cardslesson101]

As a Mizzou fan, moving to the Big 10 would make more sense then staying in the Big 12. The Texas schools(Texas,Texas Tech, Texas A&M) get more profit then Mizzou does, along with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. The Southern Division beats itself up while the North Division was pretty weak this year. Another thing about the Big 12 is that the BCS can pick whoever they want from the Big 12 to be in a bowl game over a team that had the better record. In 2007, that was the case. Mizzou was passed up for KU, when they beat KU at Arrowhead in front of a National stage. The Big 10 has a TV deal, the Big 12 doesn't.

[EhDubya]

 

Written by: Hondo S. Carpenter Sr. on 18th May 2010

The Big Ten office

 

On a message board called the Wildcat Report on May 8, 2010, a poster put a message up. He claimed to have been with someone from the Big Ten office who gave him information on the expansion efforts.

 

 

Not a big deal, people go on message boards all the time and say things. What made this a big deal was the reaction of Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany. According to my source that works at the Big Ten who spoke to Spartan Nation on the condition of anonymity because of Delany’s comments in this meeting, “The Commissioner was livid. He called a staff meeting for the office and that isn’t normal at all. In fact, it is a rare thing. He likes to meet in small groups if he meets at all. He cited this post and said if he found out who it was he would fire the person for talking or anyone else for speaking. All of us walked out and wanted to read the post because as angry as he was it had to hit home. One of my coworkers even said to me 15 seconds after we left the room, I can’t wait to read it.” The source went on to add, “There has been so much S***(fecal matter) thrown around about expansion and he didn’t really get to fired up until this. This one hit home. Clearly, Notre Dame and Texas are in play.” I have hence heard about the Delany meeting from three other sources with knowledge of it, and all of their accounts match the above.

 

 

Here was that Northwestern post again....and his subsequent replies....

 

Expansion News from within the Big Ten Reply

I just had a few beers tonight with a friend who works for the Big Ten here in Chicago. According to him, the Big Ten has focused their efforts on and is getting hot with three schools: Notre Dame, Texas, and Nebraska.

 

A few things stood out about what he told me. First, contrary to my understanding of the benefits of expansion, the Big Ten is NOT pursuing a playoff system in football. Instead of a playoff, the football teams would all be required to add an additional one or two out of conference game, which would push the regular season back one week or two. The Big Ten wants to maintain the end of season rivalry games at the end of the football season as opposed to adding a playoff.

 

Second, the Big Ten, Texas and Notre Dame are discussing a special rule to accommodate both of those schools. Instead of playing 8 games, both Texas and ND would play 7 to enable each school to play 6 out of conference games. That's apparently the caveat that brought both to the table, and Texas and ND also want to play each other every year. The tradeoff is that an 8-0 Big Ten team would always trump a 7-0 ND/Texas as conference champion, which is a potential logistical sticking point for the Big Ten and these teams. But apparently ND and Texas value the extra OOC game more than the conference championship potential, and ND and Texas want to play each other every year making the tie between two 7-0 teams impossible. They're also looking at potentially giving a automatic BCS slot for a 7-0 ND/Texas Big Ten team that loses the conference championship to an 8-0 team as a carrot, where the 8-0 team could still get the at-large but isn't guaranteed.

 

Finally, the Big East is essentially pushing ND to discussions with the Big Ten. The Big East has presented an ultimatum to ND to play football or get out of the conference for the other sports in order to protect the integrity of the remainder of the conference. Apparently discussions have taken place between the Big Ten and the Big East, and the current understanding is that the Big Ten will not accept any other Big East schools if ND joins the Big Ten. ND also will retain a national schedule, particularly with Texas joining, where it would have the ability to schedule 6 OOC games plus one game with Texas. This means they're picking up only three additional games with Big Ten schools while playing in the conference