Milton Bradley Traded To Mariners For Carlos Silva

[Backtobanks]

Podsednik better not end up in a Cubs uniform.

 

He will, i guarantee it and so will Joel Pineiro, who's asking for a Wolf type contract. Hendry will overpay, you just watch.

 

i honestly havent though much about the cubs since college football started, but this post really just made me angry

 

Sorry bud, its just how Hendry operates. Last year the player i least wanted was Bradley and Hendry signed him. I never in a million years thought they'd pay that much for miles and Hendry paid it. I never thought they'd trade Derosa away without getting Peavy and he ended up doing so. When you try to predict Hendry's moves you have to think of worse case scenario and not best case. Granderson, Cameron, Halladay, etc were all best case. Worst Case is Podsenick, Byrd (Yes Byrd, dont overrate the guy after his career year), Overpaying Piniero, etc. We'll see what happens but I doubt Hendry pulls off anything good. The best move he made was not trading away Castro, Cashner, Vitters, etc. Though i still would've traded Vitters for Granderson.

 

You can't complain about "best case scenarios" for this offseason. You're blaming Hendry for not getting Granderson or Halladay in one breath, but complimenting him for not trading Castro, Cashner, and Vitters in the next breath. Well in the real world, it would haven taken at least two of those guys (plus others) to get either Granderson or Halladay. As for Cameron, he would have been a nice pickup for 1 year or 2 years and less money than he signed for.

[inari]

Podsednik better not end up in a Cubs uniform.

 

He will, i guarantee it and so will Joel Pineiro, who's asking for a Wolf type contract. Hendry will overpay, you just watch.

 

i honestly havent though much about the cubs since college football started, but this post really just made me angry

 

Sorry bud, its just how Hendry operates. Last year the player i least wanted was Bradley and Hendry signed him. I never in a million years thought they'd pay that much for miles and Hendry paid it. I never thought they'd trade Derosa away without getting Peavy and he ended up doing so. When you try to predict Hendry's moves you have to think of worse case scenario and not best case. Granderson, Cameron, Halladay, etc were all best case. Worst Case is Podsenick, Byrd (Yes Byrd, dont overrate the guy after his career year), Overpaying Piniero, etc. We'll see what happens but I doubt Hendry pulls off anything good. The best move he made was not trading away Castro, Cashner, Vitters, etc. Though i still would've traded Vitters for Granderson.

 

You can't complain about "best case scenarios" for this offseason. You're blaming Hendry for not getting Granderson or Halladay in one breath, but complimenting him for not trading Castro, Cashner, and Vitters in the next breath. Well in the real world, it would haven taken at least two of those guys (plus others) to get either Granderson or Halladay. As for Cameron, he would have been a nice pickup for 1 year or 2 years and less money than he signed for.

 

He also would have been a nice pickup for the exact amount he signed for.

[Sever82]

Podsednik better not end up in a Cubs uniform.

 

He will, i guarantee it and so will Joel Pineiro, who's asking for a Wolf type contract. Hendry will overpay, you just watch.

 

i honestly havent though much about the cubs since college football started, but this post really just made me angry

 

Sorry bud, its just how Hendry operates. Last year the player i least wanted was Bradley and Hendry signed him. I never in a million years thought they'd pay that much for miles and Hendry paid it. I never thought they'd trade Derosa away without getting Peavy and he ended up doing so. When you try to predict Hendry's moves you have to think of worse case scenario and not best case. Granderson, Cameron, Halladay, etc were all best case. Worst Case is Podsenick, Byrd (Yes Byrd, dont overrate the guy after his career year), Overpaying Piniero, etc. We'll see what happens but I doubt Hendry pulls off anything good. The best move he made was not trading away Castro, Cashner, Vitters, etc. Though i still would've traded Vitters for Granderson.

 

You can't complain about "best case scenarios" for this offseason. You're blaming Hendry for not getting Granderson or Halladay in one breath, but complimenting him for not trading Castro, Cashner, and Vitters in the next breath. Well in the real world, it would haven taken at least two of those guys (plus others) to get either Granderson or Halladay. As for Cameron, he would have been a nice pickup for 1 year or 2 years and less money than he signed for.

 

ha ha no you're right on the Granderson thing, i actually thought about that as i was writing.

[MSG T]

Sorry bud, its just how Hendry operates. Last year the player i least wanted was Bradley and Hendry signed him. I never in a million years thought they'd pay that much for miles and Hendry paid it. I never thought they'd trade Derosa away without getting Peavy and he ended up doing so. When you try to predict Hendry's moves you have to think of worse case scenario and not best case. Granderson, Cameron, Halladay, etc were all best case. Worst Case is Podsenick, Byrd (Yes Byrd, dont overrate the guy after his career year), Overpaying Piniero, etc. We'll see what happens but I doubt Hendry pulls off anything good. The best move he made was not trading away Castro, Cashner, Vitters, etc. Though i still would've traded Vitters for Granderson.

 

You can't complain about "best case scenarios" for this offseason. You're blaming Hendry for not getting Granderson or Halladay in one breath, but complimenting him for not trading Castro, Cashner, and Vitters in the next breath. Well in the real world, it would haven taken at least two of those guys (plus others) to get either Granderson or Halladay. As for Cameron, he would have been a nice pickup for 1 year or 2 years and less money than he signed for.

 

He also would have been a nice pickup for the exact amount he signed for.

 

I was thinking $6-8 mil per would be pretty good. He signed for what, $7.5 mil per? That's not too bad. A little less would be better, but the same could be said for almost anyone.

[SCCubbieFAN]

I'm not going to go through all 39 pages to see if it was mentioned, but in looking at the contracts the different FA signed last year, I saw something in Bradleys contract about a buyout in 2011. Basically it said even if the various option clauses kick in, they can still buyout his last year for $2 mil. Is this true, or did I read something that was a guess or fabrication?

 

If it's true, why would they even contemplate getting rid of him for anything that even comes close to sending more to another team than they could spend this year, and then buyout his contract? If they were talking about sending over $13 mil with him, that's what this year plus a buyout would cost. Keep him this year then cut him loose if that's the case.

 

This is all Cot's has on his 2011 option:

 

# 2011 may become $12M club option with $2M buyout if:

 

* Bradley has more than 75 days on DL in 2009, or

* Bradley is on DL at end of 2009 season with specific injury and not on active roster by 4/15/2010

 

# if 2011 becomes a club option, it may be guaranteed again if:

 

* MVP (1st -3rd) in 2010, or

* any two of the following five:

o All Star in 2010, unless Bradley is on DL at end of 2010 with specific injury

o MVP (4th-8th) in 2010

o Silver Slugger in 2010

o WS MVP in 2009 or 2010

o LCS MVP in 2009 or 2010

 

 

Neither of the 1st 2 things happened so 2011 did not "become" a club option but rather remained a guaranteed year.

[MSG T]

I'm not going to go through all 39 pages to see if it was mentioned, but in looking at the contracts the different FA signed last year, I saw something in Bradleys contract about a buyout in 2011. Basically it said even if the various option clauses kick in, they can still buyout his last year for $2 mil. Is this true, or did I read something that was a guess or fabrication?

 

If it's true, why would they even contemplate getting rid of him for anything that even comes close to sending more to another team than they could spend this year, and then buyout his contract? If they were talking about sending over $13 mil with him, that's what this year plus a buyout would cost. Keep him this year then cut him loose if that's the case.

 

This is all Cot's has on his 2011 option:

 

# 2011 may become $12M club option with $2M buyout if:

 

* Bradley has more than 75 days on DL in 2009, or

* Bradley is on DL at end of 2009 season with specific injury and not on active roster by 4/15/2010

 

# if 2011 becomes a club option, it may be guaranteed again if:

 

* MVP (1st -3rd) in 2010, or

* any two of the following five:

o All Star in 2010, unless Bradley is on DL at end of 2010 with specific injury

o MVP (4th-8th) in 2010

o Silver Slugger in 2010

o WS MVP in 2009 or 2010

o LCS MVP in 2009 or 2010

 

 

Neither of the 1st 2 things happened so 2011 did not "become" a club option but rather remained a guaranteed year.

 

Ah, thanks.

[Guest]

So Milton took a big dump in Hendry's Cheerios again this morning, huh?

[A New Era]

so what's the current most likely destination? (likely to change I'm sure). I've heard recently Bradley for Burrel, but where the heck would we put pat the bat?

[Larry Horse]

so what's the current most likely destination? (likely to change I'm sure). I've heard recently Bradley for Burrel, but where the heck would we put pat the bat?

 

The trade is going to hinge on the Cubs ability to flip Burrel and the amount of money they are going to eat on Bradley's deal.

[Tyrant]

So Milton took a big dump in Hendry's Cheerios again this morning, huh?

 

I don't think Jim Hendry eats Cheerios for breakfast.

[Sever82]

so what's the current most likely destination? (likely to change I'm sure). I've heard recently Bradley for Burrel, but where the heck would we put pat the bat?

 

Looks like the bluejays might be a possible trade partner since they acquire Wallace and have made Overbay expandable.

[Guest]

so what's the current most likely destination? (likely to change I'm sure). I've heard recently Bradley for Burrel, but where the heck would we put pat the bat?

 

Looks like the bluejays might be a possible trade partner since they acquire Wallace and have made Overbay expandable.

 

Expendable? That's an interesting way of putting it. I'd say Overbay is not only expendable, but available today to the lowest bidder. Overbay is part of the reason Roy Halladay isn't in Toronto anymore. If Toronto had the option of moving Overbay and Wells and keeping Halladay, I'm guessing they probably would have.

[jersey cubs fan]

so what's the current most likely destination? (likely to change I'm sure). I've heard recently Bradley for Burrel, but where the heck would we put pat the bat?

 

Looks like the bluejays might be a possible trade partner since they acquire Wallace and have made Overbay expandable.

 

Expendable? That's an interesting way of putting it. I'd say Overbay is not only expendable, but available today to the lowest bidder. Overbay is part of the reason Roy Halladay isn't in Toronto anymore. If Toronto had the option of moving Overbay and Wells and keeping Halladay, I'm guessing they probably would have.

 

I don't think Overbay is that bad. He's not in the Vernon Wells category of wasting money and ruining the payroll. He did have one awful year, and he's far from an ideal 1B, but he can be moderately productive, he didn't sign that big of a contract and he's only owed $7m for one more year.

[sweetpeteman]

Toronto is going to make Overbay bigger?

[jersey cubs fan]

Toronto is going to make Overbay bigger?

 

No they are just going to provide him stretchy pants so he has the ability to expand freely.

[Backtobanks]

From MLBTR:

 

WEEI's Alex Speier says the Red Sox told Jeremy Hermida they'd trade him if they re-signed Jason Bay. Speier wonders if the Cameron signing will prompt a Hermida deal

 

How about a deal of Hermida + Lowell for Bradley + $5-$6 million.

[Sever82]

From MLBTR:

 

WEEI's Alex Speier says the Red Sox told Jeremy Hermida they'd trade him if they re-signed Jason Bay. Speier wonders if the Cameron signing will prompt a Hermida deal

 

How about a deal of Hermida + Lowell for Bradley + $5-$6 million.

 

Knowing Boston, they'd probably ask for something more than just Bradley.

[Backtobanks]

From MLBTR:

 

WEEI's Alex Speier says the Red Sox told Jeremy Hermida they'd trade him if they re-signed Jason Bay. Speier wonders if the Cameron signing will prompt a Hermida deal

 

How about a deal of Hermida + Lowell for Bradley + $5-$6 million.

 

Knowing Boston, they'd probably ask for something more than just Bradley.

 

Bradley + Fuld/Colvin + Berg/Stevens/Atkins for Lowell + Hermida (No cash exchanged)

 

Boston can trade Ellsbury for Adrian Gonzalez and use an OF of Bradley, Cameron, and Drew with Gonalez, Pedroia, Scutaro, and Youkilis in the IF with Martinez @ C. This would also help the Red Sox avoid the luxury tax (from MLBTR):

WEEI's Alex Speier says Boston's payroll is at an all-time franchise high and projects to be just under the $170MM luxury tax threshold. Once they get over $170MM there is a 22.5% penalty.

[SCCubbieFAN]

From MLBTR:

 

WEEI's Alex Speier says the Red Sox told Jeremy Hermida they'd trade him if they re-signed Jason Bay. Speier wonders if the Cameron signing will prompt a Hermida deal

 

How about a deal of Hermida + Lowell for Bradley + $5-$6 million.

 

Knowing Boston, they'd probably ask for something more than just Bradley.

 

Bradley + Fuld/Colvin + Berg/Stevens/Atkins for Lowell + Hermida (No cash exchanged)

 

Boston can trade Ellsbury for Adrian Gonzalez and use an OF of Bradley, Cameron, and Drew with Gonalez, Pedroia, Scutaro, and Youkilis in the IF with Martinez @ C. This would also help the Red Sox avoid the luxury tax (from MLBTR):

WEEI's Alex Speier says Boston's payroll is at an all-time franchise high and projects to be just under the $170MM luxury tax threshold. Once they get over $170MM there is a 22.5% penalty.

 

Is the Lowell trade to Texas offiicially dead in the water??

[Backtobanks]

From MLBTR:

 

WEEI's Alex Speier says the Red Sox told Jeremy Hermida they'd trade him if they re-signed Jason Bay. Speier wonders if the Cameron signing will prompt a Hermida deal

 

How about a deal of Hermida + Lowell for Bradley + $5-$6 million.

 

Knowing Boston, they'd probably ask for something more than just Bradley.

 

Bradley + Fuld/Colvin + Berg/Stevens/Atkins for Lowell + Hermida (No cash exchanged)

 

Boston can trade Ellsbury for Adrian Gonzalez and use an OF of Bradley, Cameron, and Drew with Gonalez, Pedroia, Scutaro, and Youkilis in the IF with Martinez @ C. This would also help the Red Sox avoid the luxury tax (from MLBTR):

WEEI's Alex Speier says Boston's payroll is at an all-time franchise high and projects to be just under the $170MM luxury tax threshold. Once they get over $170MM there is a 22.5% penalty.

 

Is the Lowell trade to Texas offiicially dead in the water??

 

Don't know, but it hasn't happened yet.

[BCVM22]

Same goes for the surging Mariners. And they may not be done adding. They need a left fielder and are discussing whether to pursue a potential trade with the Chicago Cubs for mercurial outfielder Milton Bradley

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-mariners-lee&prov=ap&type=lgns

 

I suppose Carlos Silva would be the albatross contract the Cubs would get in return?

[RedFlash]

Same goes for the surging Mariners. And they may not be done adding. They need a left fielder and are discussing whether to pursue a potential trade with the Chicago Cubs for mercurial outfielder Milton Bradley

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-mariners-lee&prov=ap&type=lgns

 

I suppose Carlos Silva would be the albatross contract the Cubs would get in return?

 

I much rather KEEP Milton Bradley if it meant not taking on Carlos Silva.

[Guancous]

Same goes for the surging Mariners. And they may not be done adding. They need a left fielder and are discussing whether to pursue a potential trade with the Chicago Cubs for mercurial outfielder Milton Bradley

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-mariners-lee&prov=ap&type=lgns

 

I suppose Carlos Silva would be the albatross contract the Cubs would get in return?

 

I much rather KEEP Milton Bradley if it meant not taking on Carlos Silva.

 

I can't imagine Hendry views Jack Wilson as a fill-in until Starlin is ready. I'd rather trade for Corey Patterson than Carlos Silva. He's below replacement level with none of the potential upside of a Randy Wells.

[davell]

I read an article that mentioned the Mariners are probably going to trade Jose Lopez over the course of the offseason.

[A New Era]

Is anyone else bored and wants something to happen just for the sake of happening? I know I shouldn't say that, because it's probably better to just keep Bradley than trade him for about %80 of the options that are out there.