Milton Bradley Traded To Mariners For Carlos Silva

[Shilzzz]

9:01pm: The Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan is reporting that Toronto "wants no part of Milton Bradley." Meanwhile, Cubs GM Jim Hendry said that Chicago hasn't given up on Bradley, according to MLB.com's Scott Merkin. Of course, Hendry has to say that until the moment Bradley is traded.

 

Looks like this is about to be shot down anyway, along with and Bradley package for Halladay talk.

 

Read somewhere that their new GM is being timid about trading for MB as his first move in charge.

[abuck1220]

wow, i can't believe trading an expensive, oft-injured malcontent for one of the best pitchers in baseball isn't going to happen.

[Shilzzz]

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this rumor has nothing to do with Halladay, if that's what you are talking about.

[imb]

hey, any time you get a chance to kill the trade value of a RF that OBPs .400 and then deal him for a 45-year old second baseman with a fake hip, YOU TAKE THAT CHANCE

[Eric Clipperton]

hey, any time you get a chance to kill the trade value of a RF that OBPs .400 and then deal him for a 45-year old second baseman with a fake hip, YOU TAKE THAT CHANCE

 

Castillo is the missing piece in the clubhouse chemistry which will bring the Cubs a 150 win season and World Series title!!

If they make this trade...I'll be both angry and relieved; because I don't think it would be a good deal by any means, but given the likely alternatives, it has to be somewhere around the 70th percentile of MB trade outcomes given the incredible amount of value-killing the Cub FO has been able to do since they embarked on this furious and lengthy MB-dumping mission.

[Little Slide Rooter]

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this rumor has nothing to do with Halladay, if that's what you are talking about.

 

There was talk in another thread of packaging Bradley for Halladay, but if the Jays want no part of Bradley, that would 86 that as well.

[abuck1220]

also 86-ing that deal would be the fact that halladay is awesome and bradley is a nutjob.

[Little Slide Rooter]

also 86-ing that deal would be the fact that halladay is awesome and bradley is a nutjob.

 

Which is why a hell of a package would have to have been built around Bradley, probably too much for 1 year of Halladay.

[Backtobanks]

It's starting to sound like our original discussion about Bradley. Everybody wants him as long as we pay most of his contract or take back a worse contract.

[Banedon]

Why would the Cubs trade for Luis Castillo? My impression was the plan is to move Theriot to 2b.

[Guest]

It's starting to sound like our original discussion about Bradley. Everybody wants him as long as we pay most of his contract or take back a worse contract.

 

I never knew it changed from the original discussion. You can talk up Bradley all you want, but the damage is done. Everyone knows that Hendry wants him gone. How much Hendry is willing to pay to make him gone is where interested teams are camping.

 

Again, get Bradley into counseling, have a powwow with the teammates and welcome him back with open arms and hope the fans come around to him when he starts hitting the crap out of the ball in spring training.

 

That's the best case scenario. Any other option is going to be a significant loss in terms of dollars AND talent.

[jersey cubs fan]

It's starting to sound like our original discussion about Bradley. Everybody wants him as long as we pay most of his contract or take back a worse contract.

 

I never knew it changed from the original discussion. You can talk up Bradley all you want, but the damage is done.

 

Lots of people were adamant that they could trade him with minimal financial loss and significant talent return.

[jersey cubs fan]

Again, get Bradley into counseling, have a powwow with the teammates and welcome him back with open arms and hope the fans come around to him when he starts hitting the crap out of the ball in spring training.

 

That's the best case scenario. Any other option is going to be a significant loss in terms of dollars AND talent.

 

The issue has been raised, with Hendry saying guys in worse situations have returned and Billy Williams saying he will keep working with Bradley and thinks he can still return and contribute to the team. The beat writers have pointed out that some players supposedly cheered upon hearing that Bradley was suspended and that there is very little chance of fences being mended. Hendry has to be willing to walk away from these trade negotiations if the terms remains so pathetic. Hopefully he is willing, but I'm not sure.

[davearm2]

It's starting to sound like our original discussion about Bradley. Everybody wants him as long as we pay most of his contract or take back a worse contract.

 

I never knew it changed from the original discussion. You can talk up Bradley all you want, but the damage is done. Everyone knows that Hendry wants him gone. How much Hendry is willing to pay to make him gone is where interested teams are camping.

 

Again, get Bradley into counseling, have a powwow with the teammates and welcome him back with open arms and hope the fans come around to him when he starts hitting the crap out of the ball in spring training.

 

That's the best case scenario. Any other option is going to be a significant loss in terms of dollars AND talent.

All indications are that the situation with Bradley is beyond repair.

 

I wish folks would just come to accept that the Cubs are going to take a bath on this one, plain and simple. They're going to be paying a productive player to play for some other team, and the strong likelihood is they're going to replace him with a less productive player.

 

The bottom line is Hendry and the Cubs rolled the dice on a guy with character issues, and lost. Now they've decided to cut their losses. It sucks, but as the saying goes, it is what it is.

[jersey cubs fan]

I wish folks would just come to accept that the Cubs are going to take a bath on this one, plain and simple. They're going to be paying a productive player to play for some other team, and the strong likelihood is they're going to replace him with a less productive player.

 

The bottom line is Hendry and the Cubs rolled the dice on a guy with character issues, and lost. Now they've decided to cut their losses. It sucks, but as the saying goes, it is what it is.

 

Why do you wish that?

 

And it's not cutting your losses when you actually decide to make things worse.

[SouthSideRyan]

It's starting to sound like our original discussion about Bradley. Everybody wants him as long as we pay most of his contract or take back a worse contract.

 

I never knew it changed from the original discussion. You can talk up Bradley all you want, but the damage is done.

 

Lots of people were adamant that they could trade him with minimal financial loss and significant talent return.

 

I think you mean or.

[KingCubsFan]

The beat writers have pointed out that some players supposedly cheered upon hearing that Bradley was suspended and that there is very little chance of fences being mended.

Beat writers are so bias and self-serving I don't really believe anything they say. With that said, I'd hope the team could succeed even with one bad apple. We almost made the World Series with Sosa. No matter what happens, Hendry deserves all the blame for this mess.

[davearm2]

I wish folks would just come to accept that the Cubs are going to take a bath on this one, plain and simple. They're going to be paying a productive player to play for some other team, and the strong likelihood is they're going to replace him with a less productive player.

 

The bottom line is Hendry and the Cubs rolled the dice on a guy with character issues, and lost. Now they've decided to cut their losses. It sucks, but as the saying goes, it is what it is.

 

Why do you wish that?

 

And it's not cutting your losses when you actually decide to make things worse.

Obviously the prevailing view within the organization is that getting rid of Bradley's attitude/baggage/etc will make things better, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[jersey cubs fan]

I wish folks would just come to accept that the Cubs are going to take a bath on this one, plain and simple. They're going to be paying a productive player to play for some other team, and the strong likelihood is they're going to replace him with a less productive player.

 

The bottom line is Hendry and the Cubs rolled the dice on a guy with character issues, and lost. Now they've decided to cut their losses. It sucks, but as the saying goes, it is what it is.

 

Why do you wish that?

 

And it's not cutting your losses when you actually decide to make things worse.

Obviously the prevailing view within the organization is that getting rid of Bradley's attitude/baggage/etc will make things better, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

Okay, so the Bears are in the process of making a bad move because they are influenced by piss-poor logic. Why do you wish fans just accept that?

[davell]

Levine mentioned earlier today we're talking to the Rangers. Millwood could be a possibility as a return.

[CUBZ99]

Levine mentioned earlier today we're talking to the Rangers. Millwood could be a possibility as a return.

 

I could live with that.

[davearm2]

I wish folks would just come to accept that the Cubs are going to take a bath on this one, plain and simple. They're going to be paying a productive player to play for some other team, and the strong likelihood is they're going to replace him with a less productive player.

 

The bottom line is Hendry and the Cubs rolled the dice on a guy with character issues, and lost. Now they've decided to cut their losses. It sucks, but as the saying goes, it is what it is.

 

Why do you wish that?

 

And it's not cutting your losses when you actually decide to make things worse.

Obviously the prevailing view within the organization is that getting rid of Bradley's attitude/baggage/etc will make things better, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

Okay, so the Bears are in the process of making a bad move because they are influenced by piss-poor logic. Why do you wish fans just accept that?

What I accept is that the folks in the Cubs' clubhouse day in and day out have a better handle on the Bradley situation than I do (and the rest of the posters here, I presume).

 

Those folks on the inside seem to have concluded that the situation is irreparable. So I further accept that trading Bradley is for the best, even knowing that the return will be crappy, etc etc.

[RedFlash]

Levine mentioned earlier today we're talking to the Rangers. Millwood could be a possibility as a return.

 

I could live with that.

 

Considering tht Kevin Millwood is a FA after the 2010 season (I believe), this is definately my favorite option.

[Shilzzz]

Bill James' projection has Milwood's '10 season with a 4.13 FIP, a 1.40 WHIP, and low homerun numbers. Love the GB/FB rates, and Texas is as tough a hitters park as any... He's almost an inverted Marquis. I can't imagine us getting anything better than this, sans including prospects. With Milwood in our back pocket, we could explore what kind of returns Randy Wells could net.

[PrimeTime]

Roto

 

Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune reports that the Cubs are trying hard to trade Milton Bradley within the next 36 hours.

Rogers finds it hard to believe that anybody will take him, but according to several reports, the Rangers have emerged as a potential landing spot for the troubled outfielder. Rogers also notes the Rays, who have been linked in discussions for Bradley since he was made available.

Source: Phil Rogers on Twitter