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I don't agree with stealing signs in any situation. I don't know why MLB doesn't have a rule against it (or do they?).

 

I don't think it's in the rule book, no, and I think it would be impossible to prove. Either way, it's incumbent upon the battery to mix up the signs with a runner on second. The fact that they were still going "one for FB, two for CB" in that situation is ridiculous.

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The Tigers will deal with it in their own way. I'm guessing Mauer might get a fastball in the ribs during the game today.
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I don't agree with stealing signs in any situation. I don't know why MLB doesn't have a rule against it (or do they?).

 

What do you mean you don't "agree with it"? Why should stealing signs be against the rules?

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Laird should've done a better job of masking the signs. Whenever that's happening don't they meet at the mound and talk to each other and say "The 4th sign is the pitch I want you to throw" and then he cycles through like 5 pitches in order to prevent signs stealing? Laird did a crappy job of preventing it from happening.
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I don't agree with stealing signs in any situation. I don't know why MLB doesn't have a rule against it (or do they?).

 

What do you mean you don't "agree with it"? Why should stealing signs be against the rules?

 

We can argue for week on this but I don't feel like it. You don't see it as anything wrong. I see it as very unsportsmanlike.

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I don't agree with stealing signs in any situation. I don't know why MLB doesn't have a rule against it (or do they?).

 

What do you mean you don't "agree with it"? Why should stealing signs be against the rules?

 

We can argue for week on this but I don't feel like it. You don't see it as anything wrong. I see it as very unsportsmanlike.

 

It's been a part of the game forever. Masking signs is a skill and if you're not good at it you'll pay.

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cubbiebum has never played an organized sport in his life, he doesnt know what he's talking about
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cubbiebum has never played an organized sport in his life, he doesnt know what he's talking about

 

Oh right. I forgot. I guess I didn't play sports in high school and college.

 

Please go back to not posting. It's been nice while you were away.

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Having played a sport through college and into semi-pro, I can safely say that Cubbiebum has no idea what he;s talking about.

 

I'd 100% dive to sell a PK if there was contact and I needed to sell it, because in sports, you fricking try to win.

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i am DYING to know what college sport you played

 

Which one did you play?

 

Which one did YOU play

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I played soccer and tennis before transferring to Ball State because the school I was at barely had a Comm department let alone TCOM.

 

And as far as diving in soccer goes, you as a player yourself should know how controversial that topic is. A lot of players would dive every chance they get and some players would never dive. I never dove but that was more so because when I was fighting for a ball the thought wouldn't pop in my head. If the thought did occur I would rather stay in and try to win the ball rather than risk diving and not getting the call.

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I don't agree with stealing signs in any situation. I don't know why MLB doesn't have a rule against it (or do they?).

 

What do you mean you don't "agree with it"? Why should stealing signs be against the rules?

 

We can argue for week on this but I don't feel like it. You don't see it as anything wrong. I see it as very unsportsmanlike.

 

Ridiculous. Do you think it unsportsmanlike when guys in the dugout are studying pitchers to figure out their "tells" for when they are going to pickoff? Or what about when they watch pitchers to see if they are tipping their pitches?

 

I really don't understand how stealing signs is unsportsmanlike.

 

It's one thing like how in the old days when they would have a guy in the outfield with a telescope stealing signs and quite another when a teammate actively involved in the game (Mauer off second) is helping out.

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I played soccer and tennis before transferring to Ball State because the school I was at barely had a Comm department let alone TCOM.

 

And as far as diving in soccer goes, you as a player yourself should know how controversial that topic is. A lot of players would dive every chance they get and some players would never dive. I never dove but that was more so because when I was fighting for a ball the thought wouldn't pop in my head. If the thought did occur I would rather stay in and try to win the ball rather than risk diving and not getting the call.

 

Its one thing to dive to deceive, and another to sell a call. If teams don't want their opponents "stealing signs", then they should do more to prevent it, since it's part of the game and happens during play. Just as football teams work hard to prevent teams from stealing signals. What makes baseball so damned sacred to people? If Joe Mauer figured out the signals, good on him.

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When it comes to stealing signs in baseball I don't agree with it at all. But then my brother and I have a few buddies that do play baseball in which they do steal signs if it's there to read, then say they would do it as long as they can until the pitcher and catcher change up the routine with runners on base. So there is a point to it in which I kind of agree. Just like Mauer said if he could still signs he would...it's like football if you don't catch up your play schemes or calls like the Raiders didn't in the SB against the Bucs and the Bucs knew every single play called.

 

If your a catcher and Pitcher all you have to do is just adjust when a runner is on the mound.

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As long as technology is not used, I don't have a problem with it. Also, no employees of the home team should be involved. Whether you figure out a hot route signal in football, or a pickoff sign in baseball, it's part of the game. The reason teams have complicated signs and signals is so opponents don't pick them up. Often the main job of the bench coach is to figure out the opponents signs.

 

If I thought my signs were being stolen, I would try to use it to my advantage. On a big 2-strike pitch I would have some sort of signal that let the pitcher know that if I signaled a curve to throw a fastball. You can discuss it between innings or even in the middle of the inning. If I had a good hitter at the plate with an important runner on first that I didn't want to steal, I would give him the steal sign with some sort of new wipe-off that I created at the beginning of the inning. Say the count is 1-0 and you'd really like to get your hitter to 2-0. Give the fake steal sign. They pitchout. Now the pitcher is down 2-0.

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cubbiebum has never played an organized sport in his life, he doesnt know what he's talking about

 

Oh right. I forgot. I guess I didn't play sports in high school and college.

 

 

Pics or it's not true.

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